Was Mulan a closeted trans-sexual?

Was Mulan a closeted trans-sexual?

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no, fuck off.

>tfw you're a transvestite but now everyone thinks that means you want to mutilate your genitals instead of looking fabulous

no, fuck off

no, fuck off.

Transvestites and gays have always been cool in my book.

But people who think mutilating their bodies will solve their mental problems are just pitiful. And fuck the doctors for convincing them it will help while pocketing their money.

she was a girl dressed as a boy in order to serve in the army to keep her dad from going, and had to keep the charade up so as not to be executed

>character dresses as opposite gender to reach a certain goal

>people suddenly start thinking they're transgender

stop this please, tumblr.

This.

Goddamit, OP. 2014 didn't last 20 years. People had more important shit to worry about back then.

This. Worse if they publicize it as "THE BRAVEST THING A HUMAN CAN DO" or something close to Caitlin's publicity.

tbqh, it's the only thing stops them from killing themselves or doing the operation themselves and then dying from blood loss. They haven't really made a medicine for it yet.

It happens to a lot of people with other dysphoria where they will cut off their arm and if doctors reattach it, they will cut it off again. Shit's fucking weird, man.

Better question is was Shang gay for unconsciously falling for a reverse trap

This.

In the classic Mulan stories she quickly rose to the rank of general and everyone had sort of figured out she was a woman, but by then she was so important to the war effort that everyone, including the emperor, was content to just ignore it. She wasn't trans or anything, she just wanted to fulfill her father's duty to their country while keeping her father safe.

Fuck off.

Might help if you just called yourself a drag queen.

No. They had a caraderie relationship. That's how a fucking army works. Otherwise, all barracks would be filled with homosexual orgies.

Is something so hard to understand beyond shipping?

>camaraderie

Goddamit

I hope Disney eats up the SJW bullshit just to see China goes ballistic
A megacorp versus a country, just like muh vidya

Most people who go ahead with the procedure kill themselves anyway.

It's not working.

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I hardly think OP was asking genuinely.

...

When sociopaths are this jelly of trans people

France has the shittiest CGI movies

>upset at people's headcanons

Please continue, it's hilariously pathetic

The only thing he displays is gratitude for Ping saving his life and pride at seeing how much they improved from early in the training days.

It's not until the end when the Emperor is like "Hey, maybe you should tap that" that he displays feelings for her.

Pls be in London

Pls die

What?

Please stop spouting data without reading the actual source.
journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
>It is therefore important to note that the current study is only informative with respect to transsexual persons health after sex reassignment; no inferences can be drawn as to the effectiveness of sex reassignment as a treatment for transsexualism. In other words, the results should not be interpreted such as sex reassignment per se increases morbidity and mortality. Things might have been even worse without sex reassignment. As an analogy, similar studies have found increased somatic morbidity, suicide rate, and overall mortality for patients treated for bipolar disorder and schizophrenia. This is important information, but it does not follow that mood stabilizing treatment or antipsychotic treatment is the culprit.

Do indeed fuck off.

I'm sorry?

this shit predates tumblr

First of all, I never said it was increasing.

Second that's from a reduced sample on Sweden. There's at least two or three studies I've seen that seem to contradict that data. Here's this article with a few

sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/08/160831110833.htm

It sounds like they need to be put in a home where they can be monitored.

>implying the government actually funds good mental health facilities with workers that actually monitor their patients

Was Elsa's plight a allegory for a closeted...

>Homosexual
>Trans gender
>Black person

I wonder if her farts smell like chinese food.

Aside from shippers, the only worse than babies on the internet screaming SJW like a fucking parrot are fuckhats that think every instance of nonstrict gender identity conformity means something more than it does.

No. She identifies as a woman. Crossdressing =/= Trans

Elsa is an allegory for a closeted anything. Say you're really ugly and you hide being make up. or you're insecure about being a 20 year old virgin LET IT GO LET IT GO

Was THIS THING I LIKE an allegory for ALL ABOUT ME?

At the most, it was mental illness.

>I'm not OK with mentally ill people being mutilated and taken advantage of by unscrupulous surgeons.
>ZOMG SOCIOPATH!

He's right too, mutilating yourself isn't going to make you happy. If you're miserable as a man you will be just if not moreso miserable as a woman. Changing your genitals around doesn't solve shit.

>daughter went through the problem of hiding her female parts (and probably from being raped non-stop by every soldier) to save her father who was very old and crazy enough to go to war
>"oh, that must mean she is transgender"

no, fuck off. People really are ignoring the reasons she joined the war just because of some agenda they're pushing

>surgery is mutilation
>tfw doctor mutilated my digestive system to remove my apendix
>tfw doctor mutilated my brain to remove a tumor
You're retarded.

More like
>tfw doctor mutilated my digestive system to remove my apendix, thereby saving my life
>tfw doctor mutilated my brain to remove a tumor, thereby saving my life
>tfw doctor mutilated my dick to remove my dick, thereby...?

What's hilarious is that in your broken brain, you actually think that a trans having their dick turned inside out is equivalent to having a brain tumor removed.

If only you weren't so trapped inside yourself and could understand how people saw you from the outside.

>mental health conditions are the same as physical health conditions

people nowadays see every sort of bonding as something romantic or sexual, makes me wonder if any of these people ever had a friend in their life? I know shipping is not canon and is just fan wanking but the measure they go for are too extreme

>comparing slicing up natural genitalia to removing a tumor.
Just because you cock is an abomination doesn't mean everyone else's is too.

I thought she was an allegory for how accepting help is better than running away from your problems. Like that song was about the freedom she got from throwing away her responsibility, but later she found out that she just made shit worse for everyone.

>tfw doctor mutilated my dick to remove my dick, thereby treating my severe gender disphoria
The funny thing is that in your broken brain you believe that you're more versed on surgery than actual doctors. When in reality the surgery makes you uncomfortable so you attempt to vilify it like a child. and for someone who chides other people from being trapped inside themselves you sure lack self awareness. I'm not trans and even I can understand the basic process of it because I'm old enough to not be triggered by other people's life choices.

>I don't know what a mood disorder is
These kinds of things are caused by chemical processes in the brain as well as frame of mind. You treat it with chemicals (HRT) and changing the frame of mind (insuring a smooth transition). I don't know how you retards get it into your minds that transitioning is just a guy going to a doctor and saying CUT IT OFF IMMA GIRL NOW. Nothing is ever that simple, no process is ever that short, no human is ever that stupid. Transitioning takes time, lots of therapy, and dedication as it's the only treatment for sever gender disphoria, and with gender being a social construct anyways I don't see why not.

>Comparing slicing up the skull and chopping off a piece of the brain to removing a useless organ.
See I can use hyperbole too.

>Just because you cock is an abomination doesn't mean everyone else's is too.
Also you seem to think that Trans people existing is some kind of insult to the notion of cock or something. Like you essentially said "them removing their cock implies all cocks are abominations like theirs." maybe I just don't get the hype but maybe you're gay?

>See I can use hyperbole too.
That wasn't hyperbole; You outright compared completely cutting up natural genitalia to the process of removing a tumor.

The difference is one is a necessary process to removing something potentially malignant, and the other does fucking nothing to actually help the tranny, as the ever-so-high tranny suicide rates show.

>I'm not trans and even I can understand the basic process of it
I'm sure your girlfriend and your girlfriend's boyfriend's son is really proud of you.

>tfw reverse traps can never be disassociated with transfags now

Also
>Also you seem to think that Trans people existing is some kind of insult to the notion of cock or something.

Removing a tumor is cutting up the brain my friend.
>The difference is one is a necessary process to removing something potentially malignant
Yes....and?

>and the other does fucking nothing to actually help the tranny
Actually it works wonders. That's why it's still in practice as opposed to something like lobotomy. The problem here is your ignorance on the subject combined with your fear/loathing of the subject.

>as the ever-so-high tranny suicide rates show.
>Gender disphoria stems from not being the gender you're comfortable with
>The whole point of transitioning is to get them to a comfortable state so that they aren't stressed by merely existing
>hurr obviously it's the treatment that isn't working and not us making them feel uncomfortable for existing
You are literally the problem. Like that's advanced idiocy. You can't try top ride the I ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT THEIR WELL BEING high horse while simultaneously going THEIR WELL BEING ARE SECOND TO MY COMFORT. One or the other. You want the suicide rates to fall? then treat them how they want to be treated. You just hate the notion of transgender people existing? then wear that transphobe badge proudly instead of trying to dance around it like a faggot.

>I'm sure your girlfriend and your girlfriend's boyfriend's son is really proud of you.
What is that even supposed to mean? what does that even have to do with the subject at hand? are you so wrong that your first defense mechanism is to go c-c-cuck! You're too deep man, you gotta get out of there before you're unable to do anything but quote Sup Forums memes in place of actual thoughts.

Sorry sorry, I can't into edgy sex humor. Explain it to me so I can kek too?

Disgusting.

Unless you're cute, in that case then it's great.

Pic related was literally a transgender though.

What's worse about this is people actually thought sheik grew a magic cock just to be a full blown guy. what was even the thought process of this? like the breast bindings are RIGHT THERE.

>You are literally the problem. Like that's advanced idiocy.
Ah, the good old Tumblr treatment to "ignorance". It's just "not my job to educate you", all you can do is claim everything I'm saying is wrong, but not actually provide anything of value to prove me wrong.

>"You want the suicide rates to fall? then treat them how they want to be treated."
>Also you just 1 post ago.
>"The funny thing is that in your broken brain you believe that you're more versed on surgery than actual doctors."
Funny just a moment ago you were saying we were all too stupid to talk about this because we're not actual doctors, but you suggest we leave it to the mentally disordered person to make the grand decision themselves as to what's best for them instead of the doctor.

I thought that it was us already doing that that led to the majority of post-opt trannies to still be offing themselves. Who'd a thunk trannies were really just smarter than doctors!

Listen dude, I'm not trying to play the "transphobe" here. You got something of value to actually disprove my point, go ahead.

>Sorry sorry, I can't into edgy sex humor.
I'm sure sex is an edgy topic for you.

Was Bugs Bunny Bigoted?

What you dipshits are forgetting is that most trannies don't mutilate their genitals because they understand that the procedure(s) offered in current medical practice fucking suck. Typically they just get HRT to fix the secondary sex characteristics and then leave the genitals alone.

Because most trannies won't admit this to you, but they are really more concerned with their outward appearance and role in society than their privates. Therapy and HRT fixes all of that shit. Stop pretending that every single tranny wants to invert their dick or frankenstein a hairy dick outta their arm skin.

Literally only did it because her dad would have died in training, let alone the war.

The question is, WOULD you pretend to be a woman to save your dad?

Wow. You really have to fucking go back.

>"not my job to educate you
BUT I'VE LITERALLY BEEN EDUCATING YOU!! All you've been doing is going "nuh uh cause I say so c-c-cuck." You've been proven wrong since the beginning hence why you omitted half my post to try to find things nit-pick at! whatever dude I'm free till six I've got time to play with you.

>Funny just a moment ago you were saying we were all too stupid to talk about this because we're not actual doctors
No, You're stupid for saying that the doctors who approve and guide people through these treatments are wrong because they make you uncomfortable. ;) read better.

>but you suggest we leave it to the mentally disordered person to make the grand decision themselves as to what's best for them instead of the doctor.
Wrong again my friend. one post ago " I don't know how you retards get it into your minds that transitioning is just a guy going to a doctor and saying CUT IT OFF IMMA GIRL NOW. Nothing is ever that simple, no process is ever that short, no human is ever that stupid. Transitioning takes time, lots of therapy.". No transition is as simple as someone declaring it's time to snip the pickle then doing it. There's loads of therapy and medication at play with the actual sex change being the last frontier. Once again you demonstrate your ignorance on the subject.

>I thought that it was us already doing that that led to the majority of post-opt trannies to still be offing themselves.
transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm

>Listen dude, I'm not trying to play the "transphobe" here. You got something of value to actually disprove my point, go ahead.
The problem here is that you literally can't prove your point. This entire post was putting words in my mouth then arguing against those false words. If you weren't a transphobe then why do you care how trans people are treating their illness? it works, if you care about their well being just call them by their pronouns.

See, this is like tumblr-thought in an attempt to get LGBTs more of a leg up.

At the same time, it's insulting to women to infer that if a woman toughens up to overcome a challenge, they HAVE to be trans-sexual and trying to change themselves into a man.

This sort of thinking is misogynist and against women.

Tumblr is misogynist and against women.


>and like that, we solve the tumblr problem

no, fuck off

No, she was just devoted to her father enough to rick her life. Filial piety, bitches.

I was here first my dude. You can go back to Sup Forums or reddit and never encounter me again.

Personally I don't really care what adults choose to do with their own bodies, it's just when it gets into the realm of encouraging kids to take hormone blockers and start HRT early.

It's permanent damage you're doing do a child's body, and from a statistic I remember, most kids end up accepting their biological sex after puberty.

If they wanna get the change as adults, that's fine by me. If they end up killing themselves, well I'm not happy about it that's not my problem.

You're half right, assuming that women assuming a tough or manly role is trans is misogynistic and used exclusively by TQ to get a leg up. However the tumblr is against women part is wrong because tumblr isn't a hivemind and the 50-million users vary in many different degrees of retardation to the point where you have Sup Forums users on tumblr "fighting tumblr". Everyone on the site is retarded. all of them. Basically the site's not going down unless you nuke it's servers.

>BUT I'VE LITERALLY BEEN EDUCATING YOU!!
You need to calm down, sir; This is a cartoon image board.

I didn't know you were autistic. Allow me to elaborate. I use caps to draw emphasis not to insinuate that I'm yelling at you. Sorry if I upset you my friend.

I agree with you man. Kids and teens should wait until they're old enough to make informed decisions on shit like that.

It bugs me especially when it's the young kids. I worry that they get pressured into transitioning from their parents or something.

Aside from that, I'm just bored of hearing misinformed people say that every tranny wants to fuck up their genitals, man. I dunno.

> Everyone on the site is retarded.
E-E- Even porn artists?!

Everyone. No exceptions.

I don't think you know how this site works. Lurk moar.

I know exactly how it works. I should laugh at you for having autism, but I feel like it'd be a wasted effort because well,... you have autism. So when all else fails use kindness.

no, being a tranny means you suffer from a mental illness, and this is a disney film from the 90s.

so no, fuck off

It's rather sad that birds have a better self-perception theory than you do

Man, you're taking this really personally. The only reason I "omitted" 3 quarters of your post is because those statements weren't directed towards me, for arguments I wasn't making.

>"nuh uh cause I say so c-c-cuck."
I make one cuck joke and now you can't go a post without making that the driving force of your argument. "You scary alt-right Sup Forums person! CALL ME A KEK COME ON DO IT AGAIN!"

>I'm free till six I've got time to play with you.
You take yourself far too seriously dude. I'm starting to wonder if I'm being baited here.

>No, You're stupid for saying that the doctors who approve and guide people through these treatments are wrong because they make you uncomfortable. ;) read better.
Not at all what you were saying, but okay.

>I don't know how you retards get it into your minds that transitioning is just a guy going to a doctor and saying CUT IT OFF IMMA GIRL NOW
I don't think that's at all what I was suggesting, I thought that was what YOU were suggesting. If that's not what you meant then I'm not arguing that point.

>transadvocate.com/fact-check-study-shows-transition-makes-trans-people-suicidal_n_15483.htm
Well skimming through the article I might be wrong on that, fair enough. I'm willing to give the benefit of the doubt and assume I'm completely wrong on that topic.

>This entire post was putting words in my mouth then arguing against those false words.
Still don't think I did. You did absolutely compare cutting up healthy dicks and cunts to cutting out something life threatening in the brain.

I'm not the user you were arguing with, but that's nice.

We're all autists here.

High class bird humor right there mah mang.
What the fuck does that mean though.

He was a transvestite and referred to himself as male.

>making that the driving force of your argument.
that was a throwaway sentence to mock the absurdity and how out of place the cuck joke was my friend. I'm happy you're bringing yourself back though. Sad thing when people devolve into only being able to think in Sup Forums memes.

>You take yourself far too seriously dude. I'm starting to wonder if I'm being baited here.
Actually I'm kinda enjoying this. if I felt serious about this I'd....huh don't know what I'd do. Never been mad over the net before. close the tab and eat ice cream maybe?

>Not at all what you were saying, but okay.
>I know what you were saying better than you the person who said it
Come on user that's not fair at all. I get if you were confused or had comprehension problems but going nuh-uh after someone clarifies for you is just childish.

>I thought that was what YOU were suggesting. If that's not what you meant then I'm not arguing that point.
Then allow me to clarify. No, my point is that transitioning is a long process with sex change as a viable option. I'm not trans so I can't discourage or encourage it but what I do know is that therapists and doctors agree that sex changes are suitable treatment after loads of therapy, HRT, and anti depressants. So I side with them.

>Still don't think I did.
Well that's the vibe you gave off my friend. I'm sorry if I took that vibe and ran with it. Let's both be more tactful with our words in the future.

> You did absolutely compare cutting up healthy dicks and cunts to cutting out something life threatening in the brain.
If the dick/cunt is actively causing distress to the person it's attached to can it really be considered healthy? My point wasn't that they were of similar severity but that both are surgical solutions to problems. calling one surgery mutilation while not calling the others such Is bias.

>tfw doctor mutilated my dick to remove my dick, thereby treating my severe gender disphoria
There are pills for that.
They're called antischizoids

I'll drink to that.

> doctor mutilated his brain to remove a tumor
>he thinks mutilating genetallia is the same as operating on a patient to remove maladies
I guess that doctor fucked up the tumor scoop huh.

SPD is a completely separate disorder my friend. they wouldn't work for someone with Gender dysphoria.

Both are surgeries. neither fit the definition of mutilation. So either both are mutilation or neither are.

That *is* mutilation. Your intestines have a scar now.

You brain has scar tissue as well.

That's mutilation.

well as long as you think all surgery is mutilations then alrighty then.

It means that corvids at least realize that what affects them doesn't affect other individuals.

This is essentially a litmus test for sapience... which that user failed...

oh no, you're of those idiots who thinks saying big words makes you smarter.

youtube.com/watch?v=P6x6NO-Vfjw

We at least had functional ones before Reagan shut 'em down.

>good mental health facilities will never be a thing in the US because somehow communism
>crazy people will never get better and will continue to use government money for decades instead of a months/years at a good place to become functional in society

No, he was just pretended to be a girl to avoid getting bullied for looking like a pussy. At one point he resolved to man up and started hitting the gym.

i just realized when mulan gets remade in live action it will be milked for its "independent brave woman" trope to blend with the current SJW phase

fuck

It already was back when it was released.

I just want to see how Disney handles a war film.

There wasn't any blood in the cartoon except when she got wounded, and then only for the injury reveal.