/doag/ - Dumbing of Age - Genuinely Bisexual Edition

Tonight, we're in the midst of a really fucking stupid chain of mini-arcs. Even considering how stupid Willis is on a regular basis, this is exceptionally awful.

Will we continue the decent into madness this evening? Will Willis ever actually advance his plotlines? Either way, here we go.

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is her brother mentally disabled or is willis just bad at drawing kids

I dunno about the former but the latter is definitely true and they're not mutually exclusive.

Willis isn't any worse at drawing kids than anything else. Howard is just actually autistic or some more severe form of retarded.

Willis won't ever say what mental disabilities his characters have though, since he'd lose snowflake points with his mentally disabled fans that project on his characters.

Ow, that's terrible

Huh. Well, I said yesterday that it would actually be a breath of fresh air to have a Becky strip, and here we are.

I'm guessing all of the recent Amber and Howard have just thrown off my awfulness scale, but it's nice to have some fresh conflict here.

I hate Roz more than I do Becky so this pleases me.

A Roz/Becky collision would be disasterous for Willis/the DoA comments section and therefore totally amusing for /doag/

Any DoA character can be made instantly better by having them shit on Roz.

You sold out your own flesh and blood, Roz, so no even a "queer" like Becky denies you!

Also, refusing the sexual advances of a gay person makes you prejudiced.

DoA + The Exorcist = The Bexorcist

It's nice to see Roz being shit on, and I honestly agree with Walky about class not being cancelled, but I question the remark about collateral damage.

That is, what is she referring to? I probably missed a story somewhere.

In other news, note Joyce's slight cleavage and Roz's pointy boob.

Roz outed her sister in order to keep her from getting re-elected. It's yet to be seen how this will actually affect Robin's campaign.

Roz outing her sister involved a picture of Robin and Leslie.

I think that Becky is calling Leslie the collateral damage since she doesn't know how Leslie was a fully complicit partner in Roz's scheme.

Class wasn't cancelled because Willis doesn't know how college works.

Oh, right.

I still question how exactly that worked, especially since Willis just kind of dropped that part of the story afterwards. He just had Roz be like "I'm not saying it was me, dot dot dot" and walk away.

>Class wasn't cancelled because Willis doesn't know how college works.
Fair enough, but you'd think Leslie could have called in an emergency class cancellation or something.

Hey
Hey wait a minute.
What the hell is Becky even doing there, anyways?

Partially complicit. Leslie didn't want to out Robin, just fuck her. Also Leslie didn't agree to be part of a sex scandal either.

This is really coming out of nowhere. Like, Becky was introduced to Roz with the idea that Joyce wanted her at her party, and appreciates her criticism, why is Becky acting like this? Maybe Dorothy filled her in on it when they talked? I doubt we'll ever really find out.

Also Becky's sentence in panel 5 feels like a half-formed to me. It's a conditional phrase without an order, "look" doesn't really work. Something like "keep high roadin' us, Roz, just so..." would be better, or dropping the conditional phrasing with, "whatever, Roz, just make sure you promise..."

Huh. On the one hand, it's a Becky strip. On the other, it revolves around Roz getting called on her manipulative bullshit.

I'm conflicted.

Becky's been going to classes to just sit in and shit.

Now, this is just from what I remember in Community College, but this happened quite a bit with these two Filipino kids, probably couldn't have been more than fifteen, and they would always sit in on our History (1602-1914) class. It was held in like the main play room or whatever it was called, and as long as they didn't interrupt or cause a ruckus nobody minded.

Roz getting called out supersedes other issues.

The university itself should have Leslie on vacation as soon as the story turned into a full-on scandal.

>Partially complicit.
Bullshit. Just because Leslie zoned out after Roz said "I want you to fuck my sister" and didn't seem to register "so I can take a picture, out her as gay and ruin her career," it doesn't absolve her of going along with the plan.

>What the hell is Becky even doing there, anyways?
Besides the fact that Becky is literally a force of nature in Willy World, it's not uncommon to have students sit in on a course they're not enrolled in. It makes sense she'd want to see the classes her friends are in.

The only people who know Becky isn't an actual student are members of the main cast, so if someone like Roz were to out her, they'd be an instant villain.

Oh, hey, that's a good point. Does Becky know Roz well enough to be talking with her like this?

Let's check:
>three strips under /tag/becky+roz/
>Pic Related is the only strip in which the two talk to each other

Huh.

Ya' know other characters can talk about people even when they're not in the strip right? I wouldn't be surprised if Becky actually blames Roz a bit for what happened to Joyce at the party.

That's fair. I guess my question should have been "How has Becky not been questioned by the police for her role in the Toedad Saga?"

>The only people who know Becky isn't an actual student are members of the main cast, so if someone like Roz were to out her, they'd be an instant villain.
I imagine Willis will try to win points by making a Mean Girls reference via a well-timed "She doesn't even go here!" quote.

True, but as I've said before, there's a difference between people talking about other characters off-screen and the reader knowing that characters have talked about other characters off-screen.
I've often fallen back on this example before, but it still holds true: Mary must have learned about Carla's trans status entirely off-screen as there is no actual evidence in the comic itself that not only is Carla trans but that Mary learned this fact. For somebody reading the story fresh, it would have been as though Carla had opted to annoy Mary when she was studying, and Mary retaliated by gluing Carla's skates and calling her a tomboy of sorts.

Or whatever. I think I just wanted an excuse to post this again.

See, Carla, this is a valid use of collateral damage.

Roz destroyed the life of a lesbian to win a petty, stupid victory over her sister, because he sister told her to not be a slut who fucked people on camera (and not even for money)

Goddamn, Mary. How is she not everyone's waifu?

>The only people who know Becky isn't an actual student are members of the main cast

And Leslie, who'd be housing Becky at this moment, if Les wasn't 90% Spagetti.

Oh god, I just realized what might happen next.

>Robin realizes she's fucked up
>campaign tries to figure out how to fix this
>Robin considers doubling down on LGBT rights
>learns about Becky's situation via Leslie
>pays for on-campus housing for Becky, if not paying for Becky's dorm room after Billie gets forced out (if THAT even happens)

Oi.

If Leslie did not know that it was Roz's intention to publicly out Robin then no, she's not morally or ethically complicit in Roz's actions. While Leslie had a complete moral and ethical failure in pursuing Robin, it's a completely different issue and one specific to her. On top of that, Roz is responsible for anything negative happening to Leslie as a result of Roz directly including Leslie in her forcibly outing Robin.

>Mary will never get wasted, awkwardly tell Carla that she's pretty, then puke her guts out

Becky isn't enrolled at IU and the dean of students hates Robin.

My first instinct was off-campus housing, but I assumed Willis doesn't want to draw more than three locations in a day if he doesn't have to.

He could just stick Becky in the same apartment complex as Leslie and reuse the background.

>If Leslie did not know that it was Roz's intention to publicly out Robin then no, she's not morally or ethically complicit in Roz's actions.
She did know. Roz spoke her plans aloud to Leslie. IIRC, it was just that Leslie never seemed to acknowledge that part of the plan and just dropped spaghetti about fucking the Senator.

It's one where Becky is actually...human. Yeah, cheering on someone just for being a lesbian is dumb but she at least finds a way to reconcile Leslie's misguided attraction by being introspective.

I kinda like this one.

Leslie lives in a one-story house where news crews can apparently surround her property yet she can sneak away to campus as if it were no problem.

And, just as well, it's the kind of property that can be surrounded by news media, yet a woman can be physically removed from the house and reappear by climbing through a side window only seconds later.

And yet again: Walky is the only one who makes a lick of fucking sense about the current situation. About this one and the Ruth thing some strips back.

Where are the lewds?

>JoyceandJacobHoldingHands.png

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>Joe kissing Joyce on the forehead before having her back home promptly at nine after dinner and a PG-rated movie.jpg

user, pls, I can only get so erect

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>Joyce giving Dorothy a sidehug while Dorothy glances flirtatiously when Joyce isn't looking.gif

Is this comic about anything other that Willis' awkward idea of Human sexuality?

ew, gay

Joyce taking the anal stretching plug to the base while having her pussy pumped by Sarah.webm

Sometimes, it's about cookies or pizza.

>mfw that Joyce and Dorthy

>collateral damage
The fuck does that even mean. If Willis had a Bingo, vague, meaningless abstractions would be the free space.

Is waifuism allowed if we all only like the comic ironically?

I have a theory about Carla.
I think that she actually had a clear transition period (her parents are rich so they would be able to afford all the needed treatments, and nobody would be rude to Carla about being trans for fear of a lawsuit) but because of having no trouble while transitioning, part of her thinks that she isn't as valid of a transgender person, which is why she chooses to rebel.
At least, that's just something I thought seemed interesting. I got the idea after someone in a previous thread bought up that Carla could have been lying to Ruth in this comic.

Am I a bad person if I relate a lot to Amber.

>this is exceptionally awful.

Dave Willis in a nutshell.

If I'm an asexual and refusing sexual advances of any person, it makes me... ?

If they are a straight person of the opposite gender, then you are a rape victim. If they are the same gender as yourself, you are a crypto-fascist at the very least.

Dammit, I'm not supposed to feel that satisfied feeling from anything that comes out of Becky's mouth.

Roz's plan to discredit her sister involved publicly outing her as being in a relationship with a lesbian, which disregarded the effect it'd have on Leslie.

They literally cannot as they do not exist outside of content. Willis (and any other creator) can either show conversations or hint at conversations that happened via clues in the text.

In your example, Sarah has shown little to no concern about Roz in causing the incident, Joyce has basically refused to talk about details, and Sarah was the one who told Becky about the roofying. So, it wouldn't make sense that she'd hold a grudge against Roz. That's something you created in your mind from disparate ideas that isn't supported in the text. It would be more likely that she blames Dorothy, since that would go along with Becky's treatment of Dorothy, although the stated reasoning is that she stole her best friend (you can dislike people for multiple reasons, though).

He doesn't have to completely telegraph things, but he could set up part of what Becky knows. Here we discover that she knows/believes that Leslie is Joyce's teacher, she's a lesbian, she is in a scandal with Robin, that Robin is prejudiced, that Roz masterminded it, and Leslie got caught up in Roz's plan and is suffering. It's a ton, that hasn't ever appeared before in the text or has been hinted at.

It's especially weird since what *was* set up was Leslie knowing that Becky is on campus, offering to help and being refused by Joyce under suspicions that she might get Becky kicked out, and yet here Becky is in class without ever dealing with that idea. Does Becky know and not care? Is she going to ask for help, is Joyce worried that Becky will get removed from the campus? Eh. who cares, just start a new conflict.

>It's especially weird since what *was* set up was Leslie knowing that Becky is on campus, offering to help and being refused by Joyce under suspicions that she might get Becky kicked out
I was about to ask when this happened when I remembered that Joyce brought it up to Robin when she visited. God, that seems so long ago.

Leslie was asking Joyce about her before that visit. And yeah, Joyce did bring up having a homeless lesbian friend during Robin's visit, but that was kinda unrelated to Leslie helping Becky, which has been left at the wayside.

>Sorry about all those other adults

>Does your friend have a place to stay?
>Yes.
>Is she staying with you?
>No. I'm uncomfortable now.
>How? I'm not asking if you've let her slam her ham between your buns, I'm just asking if she's sleeping in your room.

I went to school in fucking bum-fuck nowhere Georgia and I don't know a single person who "full stop" doesn't believe in or understand the concept of bisexuality.

I mean there was a handfull of people who said it meant you were just gay and in denial but beyond that no one just thought it "only exists in porn"

Is no one gonna point out the MASSIVE am/sleeve fuckup in panel 5? Like...Holy shit .Is she an amputee all of a sudden?

I think that's supposed to be Becky's arm around Joyce's shoulders.
Though now I question why you can't see Joyce. I don't think Becky's an amputee; I think she's Mr. Fantastic.

That'd give her a lot more validity to how she acts so of course Willis won't do that.

I hate this idea that says that if you feel cornered or discriminated against then you have every right to be an asshole.

It's certainly UNDERSTANDABLE how you'd become an asshole, but it's not always justified.Like enacting violence on people you do not like under the pretense that it's ok to punch nazis.

Hey, don't erase queer people! There's totally a possibility that this user could be hit on by a gay person, in which case refusing their advances would make them a disgusting homophobe.

Oh, I see it now. Criticism rescinded for now.

Under rated post

How stupid is Leslie to weirdly forget Robin's disagreeable political stances *and* that shacking up with a politician would cause a big scandal.

Shit might be bad for her, but Leslie isn't some victim of Roz's machinations. She played herself, with no plan except for some weird idealism that Robin would come out and completely change because she saw some banging titties.

Only a little bit. Acknowledging that you have some unkind tendencies is the best place to start. Yes, Amber is awful a lot of the time. But she's kind of someone we can relate to, because she has a lot of guilt about how she acts. (Not enough to change her behavior, but still.) I think most people worry about these things.

>some weird idealism that Robin would come out and completely change because she saw some banging titties
Pretty much this. Leslie genuinely thought she could change Robin's views.

To be fair, depending on how banging the tiddies were, I may be willing to change my political views.

Maybe not for a Leslie, but perhaps a Billie, Amber or Joyce.

The idea is Joyce is afraid she's asking because it's against the rules

>I hate this idea that says that if you feel cornered or discriminated against then you have every right to be an asshole.

As I understand it, acting like a decent person is perceived as "conforming to expectation" which will ultimately allow their white male straight cis oppressors to better oppress them. Basically, if you suggest to them they should maybe act like they aren't batshit crazy vulgar shitsacks the appropriate response is "Suck my lady cock you shitlord" or you're not actually fighting the patriarchy.

I would maybe for Malaya's nips, but only if she promises not to contort her body into extremely unsexy shapes like in the pinup.

In all honesty I still fapped to it. I'd argue Willis is much better at pinups than just outright sex comics, but that's probably because they lack the cringey dialogue and the NYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH. Or maybe It's just the part of me who enjoys the novelty of on-model porn.

>I'd argue Willis is much better at pinups than just outright sex
I still think they have issues, but I agree! Although some of them still have the terrible "NYAAAARGARGLE" faces.

I knew it. I fucking knew it. I'm fucking doomed.

You are not doomed, friend! You just need to learn from it. If you think Amber is a bad person but you still relate to her, then think about what she does that makes her a bad person. Then, like.... don't do those things.

Amber is violent and lashes out at the people she's close to.

Teach yourself patience and anger management. It'll help--I promise.

I'm angry all the time. I don't deal with it well at all. That's why Amber scares me. I act like her. I want to hit people when I'm angry. I don't but I want to. I'm worried I'm going to beat people I love when I'm angry what if I do.

Amber freaks out and yells at people when she's angry. I do that. I'm the same person as the character people keep saying is an awful person who needs to die.

I thought if it meant I wasn't broken then it was a thing I could deal with. But if I need to spend the rest of my life forcing myself not to be an abusive monster it means I need to kill myself. It's the only moral thing I can do.

Are you the same guy who's mentioned this in the earlier threads?

yes

You really should stop reading DoA. I'm not trying to be mean or anything, but I'm worried that it's probably not helping.

Being on Sup Forums probably isn't helping either, but that's neither here nor there.

ok

im sorry

No no no, don't apologize! I'm just trying to look out for you, that's all.

>if I need to spend the rest of my life forcing myself not to be an abusive monster it means I need to kill myself. It's the only moral thing I can do.
Nah, m8. That's not the right way to look at it.

You can and (with some self-work and maybe therapy) will get to a point where you're not "forcing" anything. I have had major emotional issues in the past, and still have issues to this day. They never go away entirely, but it can get to a point where you and the people around you can be happy with who you are. It's more about coping with your issues and improving yourself, not erasing or repressing parts of what makes you, you.

Also, erasing yourself entirely with suicide will never be the moral answer, since everyone has the capacity for good, and by killing yourself, you're denying the world and the people who care about you that potential goodness. It's always tough to imagine that goodness inside when you're at a very low point, but it is there. Please take some time for yourself away from the comic and Sup Forums if you think that it's hurting you more than helping, but please don't take time away from your very life.

Would Roz be considered a sociopath? She's a horrible person. Robin is no prize, but compared to Roz she's a saint

Damn, that was beautiful.

Eh, I'd stop short of calling her a sociopath. Her moral compass is twisted, but she does have one. I never got the impression that she doesn't at least THINK she's doing the right thing for the "greater good" or whatever else her current goal is.

Well said user

She's a Comstock-tier moral crusader from the opposite side who believes that everything she does is valid and just regardless of what it actually entails. Sociopath would be a step up for her.

You actually could make a pretty weak diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder using the DSM, and a much stronger diagnosis using the ICD-10.

It depends on whether or not you consider her actions in a vacuum or within the context of Willis's absolute retardation.

In a vacuum, it's clear that everything she does is to get attention, everyone else be damned; in context of DoA, she's a moral hero who's willing to put everything on the line, alienating the other characters to do so.

You can't forget that this is written by a man with the mental complexity of a kindergartener

She showed some compassion for Joyce when she tried to recommend her to a shrink post-Ryan, which nudges her slightly out of sociopath territory. And maybe her little sister? But yeah, those are my only real complaints.

Lack of compassion or empathy is commonly found but not required for anti-social personality disorder.

Willis: 19 days, $51,781
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Jaques: 3 days, $53,648
kickstarter.com/projects/1677416093/questionable-content-volume-6

We've got a good ol' fashioned shitty strip-off here, and Willy is coming up short to Jacques again.

Why are these cunts holding kickstarters for their books when they both have huge Patreons?

Shouldn't part of the Patreon go towards book costs?

This is gross

Pre-orders not only allow you to gauge demand for the product and immediately process sales transactions, they allow for essentially upfront payment of costs. Regardless of what you think of the process it's very smart business.