>America #1 - 43,592 Can't wait until the April sales figures come in because that drop is going to be hard and fast. As a comparison, Unstoppable Wasp debuted with around 37,000 in sales and was down to 16,000 by the next issue.
For another comparison, Hawkeye debuted at 70,000 in December, dropped like a rock to 27,000 in January (don't know what variants/overshipping shit they did with that book in December) and as of issue 4 last month is at 17,000.
America's likely going to be in the 22,000-26,0000 range for issue 2 and will drop probably drop below 20,000 with issue 3. It'll probably be down to 15,000 by issue 4 and may even be down to that number by issue 3 depending on the drop for issue 2. So when does America get cancelled or does it limp along selling nothing for reasons like Squirrel Girl, Moon Girl and Lethcat did for a while?
On the bright side, after dipping down to 31,000 in February, Renew Your Vows is up to 37,000 in March so it's probably going to settle into the mid-30,000s with some variation here and there of a few thousand so it's pretty healthy.
Parker Rogers
They claim the book sold out enough for reprints. I'm scared guys.
Joshua Hernandez
Thanks OP, we really needed another America thread. I've been trying to get one off the ground for the longest time, but it just seems like nobody on this board is interested in discussing the comic.
Juan Watson
Its mostly shit, too bad, I like her design, but I can't stand her personality.
Grayson Smith
Kek. At least OP did some research for this one.
Lucas Moore
Read Ultimates2, then.
Thomas Thompson
In all honesty America is such a trainwreck of a comic and a really good example of something to hold up as everything wrong with current Marvel along with Unstoppable Wasp. It's something that should have a permanent place on this board that people can point to.
Ethan Stewart
Samefagging but those two and Thunderbolts really.
Nicholas Carter
>being angry at things you shouldn't read
Every day, on Sup Forums!
Ian Collins
comic books
Elijah Reyes
>being angry at things you don't read
ftfy
Landon Turner
I just want to give OML a tube of lip moisturizer.
Andrew Barnes
Can someone storytime this? I want to read it again.
Jace Long
seconded
Hunter Cruz
What's with the people complaining about about threads making fun of this comic? It's like they don't want us to enjoy ourselves
Dylan Peterson
awesome, lets make a pact to never have an America thread ever again afterwards
Ryder Roberts
>Holy menstruation!
Brody Williams
Weren't they giving issues away for free online? I remember some user posting a link.
Austin Richardson
Comixology had the first issue free for digital download.
Samuel Lee
Comixology had it for free for a while, yeah.
Mason Johnson
How did you get that from this thread?
Jonathan Sanders
Everyone over orders on #1. The story is what keeps the people coming. Too bad a lot of the stories are sh%^
Jason Rivera
>They claim the book sold out enough for reprints
So did Faith. All that means is that they initially printed fuck all.
Henry Carter
Marvel was also giving this away for free in digital sales. The orders for #2 must have been terrible. They will probably overship it
Liam Walker
>kekwing Nah, fuck off
Aaron Jackson
>Shit taste detected Yeah, fuck off.
Evan Nelson
America, Unstoppable Wasp, Thunderbolts, Champions and Ghost Rider are each a good example for what is wrong with Marvel right now, each for different reasons.
Samuel Perez
what's wrong with wasp, tbolts, and ghost rider?
Cooper Phillips
YAAAAAAAS QUEEEEN YAAAAAAS
Benjamin Ward
Marvel does not seem to know who the target audience if Wasp/TBolts/Ghost Rider is or only has a half-assed understanding of the target audience at best.
Both TBolts and Ghost Rider were heavily marketed to oldschool TBolts and Robbie fans, yet the actual books marginalized the title characters which understandably pissed of the people it was initially marketed to. Wasp meanwhile seems to be aimed at kids on the surface but the language is way too complex for young children and the writing puts it more into a neither fish or fowl category similiar to Hellcat, missing the mark where it only really appeals to a certain kind of wo/manchild.
The art on Wasp is...okay, while the art on TBolts and Ghost Rider are clusterfucks, and neither of those books ever developed a clear direction or hook. Basically you are left wondering who this is even for.
Matthew Adams
The art on wasp has featureless paintbucket backgrounds. That's web comic tier art.
Anthony Howard
>They will probably overship it No probably about it, they announced they were not overshipping #2 not long after #1 came out.
Chase Wright
There is a lot of web comic tier art right now at Marvel. A lot of them can't even do competent layouts or panel compositions.
Jaxson Brooks
>On the bright side, after dipping down to 31,000 in February, Renew Your Vows is up to 37,000 in March >Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows #4 31,750 >Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows #5 37,508 What caused the bump? X-Men weren't in it until this weeks #6 so it couldn't have been them. So I assume it was just free overships and not stores actually ordering more which is a shame.
Anthony Ortiz
>a trainwreck of a comic >a trainwreck of a company Well, duh.
Camden Scott
#2 had free copies go to retailers if they ordered X% of #1. I know my retailer got a bunch of free copies. So those numbers will be higher.
And yes, it's gone 2nd printing, but that is not a surprise as most stores order conservatively nowadays and Diamond runs out of stuff for re-orders, so Marvel prints another thousand copies or so for 2nd print.
You really can't judge a comic's numbers until issue #3 (if there are no shenanigans with overships).
I suspect it will get at least one arc (#6) possibly 2 (#10 or #12) but hopefully not as it's been terrible.
Aiden Morris
Holy Menstruation, it's like fat necbeards can't have enough of diversity!
Isaiah Johnson
Why are you triggered so much by this comics. Most of you hate America Chavez anyway, you should be happy that she is used as a containment comics for a terrible creative team.
Logan Cooper
That cover art makes it look like she is damn near 40. Terrible.
James Harris
fucking land
Chase Ramirez
Marvel has already learned that diversity doesn't sell. Don't worry, within a year we'll be back so nothing but white males, tokens, and women who only exist to serve as cheesecake, just like the good old days.
Lincoln Ross
>I suspect it will get at least one arc (#6) possibly 2 (#10 or #12) but hopefully not as it's been terrible.
I'm expecting either this or Iceman will get dragged for 2 arcs purely so they can enter them in LGBT awards.
Hudson Rodriguez
I think America is the last remnant of their "diversity push" they were trying, after seeing everything do poorly, but it was still in the pipeline.
Iceman, not as sure about that one. I'm not happy about Iceman being gay now either, but do like that he's getting a solo book. I suspect it will mostly be about him being gay though.
Jaxson Fisher
Was this book sitting on a shelf for 10 years? References to my chemical romance and 5th element? What the fuck were they thinking? Somehow a woman nominated to the Supreme Court just a couple years ago has her name attached to a university? Not even as Chief Justice. Breaking up with her girlfriend who doesn't want to move across the country then leaving through her teleportation power. That might be one of the dumbest things ever written.
What i saw here on Sup Forums was baffling.
Ian Martin
Sure why not.
Evan James
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Kayden Ward
truly you are a gxd among mxn
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Ayden Peterson
>storytiming it again
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Colton Long
This
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Carson White
The end
Kayden Long
I keep thinking that baby leash is just an edit
Nolan Perry
so did Unstoppable Wasp.
Grayson Cook
>On the bright side, after dipping down to 31,000 in February, Renew Your Vows is up to 37,000 in March so it's probably going to settle into the mid-30,000s with some variation here and there of a few thousand so it's pretty healthy.
Almost every title had bumps, Marvel overshipped again. You can see on double shipping books how the next issue goes back to the numbers from the month before.
Hudson Rodriguez
Holy fuck. One page in and I can already tell this is going to be shit.
And this isn't helping.
Zachary Taylor
oh it's gonna get SO MUCH BETTER
it such a shame this is only monthly
Michael Cruz
America is such a terrible character, I'd honestly speculate Ultimates2 would be doing better in sales if she wasn't in it.
Jaxson Moore
So this is photoshopped right? Please tell me this is photoshopped. Because this reads like a Tumblr OC's backstory.
If Marvel sinks any lower they'll need to rename the company Titanic.
