Snoke is dead? Just like that? Kylo runs the first order now? Does that even make any sense?
Kylo hasn't been shown to have any real leadership abilities. He's moody, impatient, emotional, immature, and I don't think he really knows anything about strategy or politics, he was basically just Snoke's hitman.
Why would the first order accept Kylo was their new leader after he assassinated Snoke? Wouldn't a fanatical military order care if someone basically committed high treason just to get his dick wet?
Jackson Mitchell
>surprised while mind reading what a stupid fucking scene
Jeremiah Gray
He's going to come back in episode 9 Frieza style
Joseph Garcia
He's reading his mind but is just vague enough to believe what he's reading isn't directed toward him, I liked it
Nathaniel Barnes
It's a chick-flick plot. The writers are push-pulling Kylo to score an A+ with females. Marketing assumes men will watch anything with lightsabers.
Samuel Butler
they literally made a gag out of his death >now hes gonna grab his lightsaber >now hes gonna turn it on >hes gonna slowly raise his weapon >now hes gonna start swinging it >now hes gonna kill his enemy >uh oh it was me he was gonna kill xD >mfw :O
Nicholas Lopez
>moody, impatient, emotional, immature You just described Leia in the OT.
Logan Sanders
TLJ is unironically one of, if not the very best Star Wars movie. There are two major themes running through it: letting go of the past and defying expectations. Letting go of the past, as in saying goodbye to the old favorites, and making the new characters take center stage. Honest to god, I didn't care about Rey, Finn or Poe after TFA, but I loved them by the end of this. And defying expectations, as in putting twists and turns in the story. I can't say that you won't see the plot twists coming, but those are a lot better than in an average blockbuster. I wonder if Abrams is salty that Johnson shaped his ideas so much? I wouldn't call TLJ a deconstruction, though it comes close. Felt very much like Kotor 2, interpreting the mythos in a different way (Luke has shades of Kreia). The humor was also great, measured gracefully and in the adequate places, Marvel could learn a LOT from this one. The acting is superb, Del Toro, Dern and Tran all brought something to the table. And there is a silent space battle scene towards the end which left the audience breathless. I could literally hear jaws hitting the floor. 'Superleia' was a bit cringy I guess, but I didn't hate it like some of you. Always liked it even in the EU when she was shown as force sensitive.
Nicholas Richardson
i actually wouldnt mind this
Nicholas Bell
>Why would the first order accept Kylo was their new leader after he assassinated Snoke? Wouldn't a fanatical military order care if someone basically committed high treason just to get his dick wet?
Don't comment until you've seen the movie, idiot.
Evan Perry
Hi plebbit
Jeremiah Ross
Why isn't the lightsaber spinning?
Jordan Evans
why would it be? honestly asking
Aiden Morris
>Why would the first order accept Kylo was their new leader after he assassinated Snoke? Kylo told Hux that Rey killed Snoke and that he's taking over and then force choked him into submission
Colton Edwards
But why invalidate all the OTs character arcs.
Jackson Johnson
it's a good trick
Hudson Brooks
Is this bait? I don't want to shit on your opinion but can you elaborate for me exactly why you loved Fin spefically in this movie compared to the last one. I dont mind this movie compared to most of /tv but Fin and Roses casino adventure was the weakest part of the film too many cop outs which ultimately added to nothing.
Chase Davis
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Liam Reyes
I guarantee it's copy pasted from plebbit. Probably a very highly upboated comment.
Sebastian Torres
That's how he dies are you shitting me I thought that was a statue or something not the actual snoke. This is so fucking retarded fucking god dammit
Jacob Jones
In all honesty fucking Thor Ragnarok handled themes of separating yourself from an ugly complicated past way better.
Who would've thought a fucking Thor movie that looks like it was recorded on a potato would make more money than Justice League and do Star Wars better than Star Wars
For the record I hate Marvel too.
Camden Murphy
Maul style more likely.
Ayden Price
snoke isnt dead he will be the big bad he'll be able to regenerate or some shit like darth sion and itll be rey "fuck books" palpatine here to save the day
Sebastian Lewis
whoah. elements of this scene are giving me serious Kurasawa vibes. anyone else?
Aiden Johnson
The Light side has force ghosts but what about the Dark side. Why not bring snoke back as a force ghost or a presence in the dark side that attempts to possess Rei
Chase Johnson
>Rey is sheev's daughter/female clone Could this save star wars?
Isaiah Gonzalez
I refuse to believe that this wasn't just a trick from Snoke? If they just kill him off without explaining anything, it'd be so stupid
James Collins
What was the opening scene like, I read the script and the movie seemed to open with a weird exchange between Hux and Poe Dameron like they're leaving a phone message or something
Anthony Murphy
Poe flies straight to the first order alone, calls hux's ship and pretends to not hear him in a tactic to stall while charging his ship with enough power to fly straight towards a Dread Fighter (not sure on the name) to take out its cannons to allow the resistance to escape.
Ryder Jackson
>set out to make trilogy >have no plan for said trilogy and just make it up as you go But why
Jayden Myers
Oh, is it played for laughs though? Seemed like the "Do I talk first? Do you talk?" thing from the Force Awakens
Eli Price
It prints money
Connor Reed
You see his upper body dismembered and dropped to the floor in the background, like it's an afterthought. He's gone.
Joshua Hall
Spider-leg Snoke confirmed.
Jackson Williams
Did you see Thor Ragnarok? The opening scene of Thor talking to Surtur as he keeps spinning around on the chain. It's as humourous as that. It deflates the tention far more then the "do i talk first do you talk?"
Luis Williams
Yes. He keeps asking to speak with "Hugs" and pretending to not know 's no this Hux is. Then he says that he has a message for him from Leia *pause* ABOUT HIS MOTHER. *thunderous audience applause*
Hunter Sullivan
*who this Hux is
Dominic Bennett
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Xavier King
I see. I didn't mind that bit in Thor, just wondered if I had the scene right since it's hard to tell what's going on with that leaked script
Noah Martin
Okay, so not humorous at all? I saw that and it nearly pack theater and it got zero reaction from the audience
Christ. It really is Marvel-tier.
Lucas Bell
>Hux tries to shoot Ren while he's unconscious >Ren wakes up >Hux starts screaming that Snoke is dead >Ren: "i-it was the uhhh scavenger i swear!!!"
I couldn't stop laughing at that scene.
Noah Barnes
Is Hux just like a comedic relief character these days?
Ryder Brown
Yes retard, just because he choked hux for a few seconds totally explains that the entire order unquestionably starts bowing to Kylo.
Dominic Morales
You also see his lower part drop a bit later, like it was meant to be funny.
Jack King
Considering everything about the original trilogy was ripped off from kurosawa, it's not a far cry to think they put in some kurosawa-inspired scenes in this one.
Josiah Perez
mostly but he has some moments where he makes ren look like an idiot
but they both make the first order look terrible honestly
they werent, in fact they were pretty fuckin confused when both kylo and hux were giving conflicting orders on that little ship
Andrew Cook
Awful quipshit. I honestly almost walked out of the cinema. It's just so tension diffusing and fucking retarded when they have the main characters quip in the face of overwhelming power or odds. Its similar to the scene in TFA where poe meets Kylo.. It ruins the scene and the menacing air that the villains should have. But dumbass millennials and Kathleen Kennedy prefer quips and no real stakes.
Ryan White
Of course the random ship pilot would be confused when he has the two top leaders of the order giving conflicting orders five inches behind him. Thats doesn't explain how Kylo clearly has full control of the order without any objections or attempt to hinder him from any other officers. It's not like Kylo was second in command before snoke died.
Christian Reed
Honestly this. It's the same with game of thrones. Their main audience is lowest common denominator millennial females.
Jacob Nelson
"dead" he's Darth Plagueis and he comes back next movie to freak out Benny boy.
John Powell
Also, does he have access to Snoke's secret stores of immense wealth that keeps his operation running? Does he know all Snokes contacts in the known and unknown galactic zones? Do certain powerful figures expect regular bribes (whether wealth or slaves or tech or information or whatever)?
Snoke doesn't strike me as the kinmd of guy who allwsd too many jewish lawyers to handle his business affairs, and real power-players won't speak to somebody's stand-in. They'd see it as disrespect. An unstable brat like Kylo would have them scuttling to form a counter-alliance or selling out Snoke's networks to the other side.
Kylo would have his military slave-army. But where would their supplies be coming from? Do they now have to stake out every farming and food-processing complex/planet with precious troops? The Empire was a literal empire. They'd just sealed absolute power when ANH starts, and even then they needed the Death Star as a final physical threat to any challenges or ideological hold-outs.
Snoke is an independent operation. A Rogue Gangster State at best. He'd still require a personal network of cronies to keep things afloat.
They don't even have Starkiller Base anymore. Kylo literally has a few months before the wheels start coming off organizationally. Defections are going to be off the charts. Every soldier and officer is going to use any side patrol, or off-fleet assignment as an opportunity to jump ship.
Additionally, all this new stuff implies that Snoke had super-mind-reading abilities. So he could keep on top of shifts in his alliances etc. Kylo can't tell if Luke is even in the same room as he is. Or if Rey is ready to turn or not. Only a minor sense if "something is up" with a shaky-looking stormtrooper.
This movie is a small, stupid child's idea of how a guy like Snoke maintains power.
/rant
Nathaniel Hall
It's pasta. Has been turning up all over the place here.
Hudson Rivera
pasta fag is a fag.
Jace Cook
What's Snoke's tax policy?
Parker Gonzalez
Unironically yes. I was hoping she'd go to the dark side and Kylo would go to the light, as they're very clearly Yin & Yang. The scene where she's in the campfire talking to him, he has blue light on his face, and she has red light on hers. That can't be for nothing. I'm also getting a Revan/Bastila Shan vibe too.
Jose Taylor
it would if rey had an ounce of sheevs charisma
Gavin Thomas
Robin hood style.
Angel Campbell
He's Plagueis so ofc he's coming back. Sheev totally thought he was dead when put a lightsaber through his skull and look how that turned out. He's going to come back with wierd force cancer growths holding his legs to his waist or some shit.
Levi Peterson
Star Wars has always been science fantasy, the autistic details didn't matter, hence why people didn't like midichlorians.
Jonathan Collins
Autism, ladies and gentlemen
William Diaz
Where did you find the leaked script? Do you mind spoon feeding me as i'de like to read it
Leo Jackson
its pasta but the casino part is kino and the ultimate pleb filter
Julian Hernandez
It was on a pastebin in a thread the other day, but I just found that it's been taken down
Carson Adams
>You see his upper body dismembered and dropped down a shaft that has no visible bottom. He's gone. yeah, there’s a good chance he’s coming back
Hunter Brown
>he thinks the mouse will give any thought to that stuff
Charles Butler
That's a hologram, don't worry
Gavin Sanchez
Nice copypasta. I've seen this exact post yesterday.