Cut the casino subplot

>cut the casino subplot
>keep phasma alive
>have Luke be there in person on the battle at Crait
I just saved this movie.

No here's how to fix it:

>no space scenes at all
>no admiral hux
>no snoke
>cut out the terrible humor, pogs, crystal wolves and green milk titty monsters.
>Kylo and Rey subplot lengthened and takes the foreground.
>Luke has his own subplot.
>instead of Yoda, it's Qui Gon.
>Luke was actually a grey jedi and had actually become a sith.
>chewie gets injured and decides to take the falcon back to kashyyyk.
>turns out there is an order of grey jedi.
>Main antagonists are the knights of ren.

Both of.these still don't fix the issue of Luke falling off from being a hero

I can't wait until 9 happens and the collective butthurt when it's confirmed that Rey is a Solo.

I think it's obvious at this point they're brother and sister, such a blatant hint and parallel i'll be surprised if they don't.

It sucks, because I want to have a sex scene in Star Wars were they're using the force to fuck eachother.

So Leia and Han dumped the girl and kept the boy like a Chinese couple?

What do you mean an issue.

Such a simple movie and you didn't even understand the basic theme? The idea that hero worship is fucking stupid?

Admiral Hux is a new character most akin to the original Star Wars. His tone, voice and demeanor is the only thing genuinely amusing and funny about the Sequel trilogy so far.

>This is what nu-tv really thinks

Hux was an insufferable pathetic faggot of a character.

>this

the movie was utterly dreadful and a complete waste of time; but you'd need to be an utter retard to overlook that this was a point.

Yes, that was the point you moron. His tantrums were meant to be funny and they are and not in a forced and unfunny way.

He just keeps reminding me of this guy

I hoped the new movie would have made him more serious but no. If anything he's even more of a parody character

Han didn't know.

Implying I support postmodernist bullshit
Some times its good to have heroes
When this movie specifically shits on it, it cant be saved

>Some times its good to have heroes
Yes and that's why Luke went out with a final act of heroism. Did you have a point?

That's the joke. And yet watching him was more fun and had more impact than any other character in the new films.

>dooms both the resistance and the jedi

So heroic...

> His tantrums were meant to be funny
I'm sorry...is Star Wars meant to be comedic? I'm not sure what the fuck you're smoking faggot.

>grey jedi
FUCK
OFF

He should have let the rebels die in the cave? ok

Resistance, and most of them did anyways.

Hux is cringey af
Literally there so SJW’s can be all “oh no le fascism D:”

>Luke himself would decide to kill a 12 year old in his sleep
A hero was Boromir, realizing his mistake after being tempted by the ring and dying to protect his friends
A hero was Luke deciding to save Vader's soul
This jaded edgy Luke wasn't a hero, and killing him off for virtually no reason (force exhaustion man?) just drives the point home that this was written by some hack

Plenty of comedic moments in the originals, especially with the little fur shits. Here's a free one.

>luminous beings are we, not this crude matter
Fuck off with your physical bs

It means the fucking same thing

>killing him off for virtually no reason (force exhaustion man?)
>drives the point home that this was written by some hack
Who does this remind me of hmm...

good start but you have a lot more to do if you want to make it good

luke died because his hope died.

but he used his hope to fuel the hopespark the resistance will use to light the flame to the first order :)

why is the casino stuff useless?

at least the little fur shits were actual midgets with massive hammers to destroy the walkers.

...

>have snoke actually do something if you want killing him to have some huge effect
>cut almost everything to do with luke, if you want to kill him, dont do it in such a stupid fucking way
>something to do with grey jedis, luke rey or kylo

you now have a perfect protagonist, and an antagonist that no one takes seriously, and nothing to back it up, snoke shouldn't have died because there are NO stakes now

the whole chink-casino-codebreaker-disable tracker plotline took, what, 45-60 minutes of screentime? what was the payoff? a kid wearing a resistance ring and the death of a useless minor character?

>a kid wearing a resistance ring
but the kid can use the force
he will be the center or a future movie

>Plagueis is the first Jedi, who was corrupted a dark side Nexus that existed on Ach-To
>Luke's apathy to everything was caused by this Nexus attempting to corrupt him also
>He didn't try to kill Kylo. Instead he woke him up and promised him he wouldn't let him fall.
>Snoke gave Kylo visions that Luke was going to kill him though, which caused Kylo to flee and join the first order
>Snoke doesn't die like a bitch.
>Luke has a vision that Rey is going to kill Kylo. His love for his family brings him out of his rut and he returns to intervene at the climate; a fight between Rey and Kylo. Rey was just about to kill Kylo in front of Snoke--callback to ROTS Dooku scene, but Luke intervenes and saves Kylo's life/Rey from turning to the dark side.
>Kylo realises Luke always had his best interests in mind, and that Snoke doesn't care for him.
>Luke tells Rey and Kylo to flee, and 1v1's Snoke. Snoke kills him.
>Film ends with Rey and redeemed Kylo safe aboard a ship with Leia. Rey says that now there are no Jedi left and that she can't complete her training. Leia tells her that there is 1 left....Luke had a secret son that no one knew about.
>Finn is lynched by the KKK in the opening scene.

Fixed the film.

>luke died because his hope died.
>he used his hope to fuel the hopespark [...]

Do you even read what you post?

>the postmodernism movement is bad meme
Surefire way of telling everyone how underage you are.

In my opinion movie itself was good. However as a part of star wars franchise terrible mistake - not respecting any basic "force" rules or any rules.

Leia had the kid in secret after her falling out with Han shortly after Ben went nuts. Fits the timeline, makes sense, Leia was at the Battle of Jakku, explains the force connection between Kylo and Rey.

>In my opinion movie itself was good
Really? A movie without a plot is good?

>Finn originally plans to run away to stop Rey getting captured
>Some random woman talks to him for a couple of minutes and suddenly he's changed his mind completely.
>Ultimately served no point unlike the Shield Generator bit of Ep VI so no payoff
>fuck le rich people >:^)
>stupid thing with the weapon trader's ship where he seems to make every single type of weapon in the galaxy.
>lol droid shenanigans which were even more pointless than the shit with Ewoks and R2/C3PO
>extended sequence of cgi smashing which served no point other than "fuck le rich people"
>Codebreaker who exists to batter you around the head with the point that there are bad people in the world and not all smugglers/thieves are rogues with a heart of gold like Han.

Holy shit this.

>muh deconstruction

Fuck off, Rian. You're a hack.

The entire Finn and Rose subplot was completely unnecessary and didn't really contribute anything meaningful to the film. It's just so that they could shoehorn in the scene with that random slave kid that they saved wearing a Resistance ring at the end. The hacker guy was not interesting at all, his stutter was annoying and his betrayal predictable.

The entire casino scene also felt like something straight out of the prequels. It was just stupid. It was like I walked into a completely different movie.

how can you not see i was being ironic.
honestly you need to take a shotgun shell to the mouth retard.

It hada plot. I bet you were one of those faggot kids that thought Rogue One was the bestest everer since Empire, amirite?

>Plagueis is the first Jedi
>Luke had a secret son that no one knew about.

These are stupid. The rest is slightly better than TLJ.

btw can someone explain how is possible to fly or to be in space without any spacesuit or anything. I know its just a sci-fi but used to be more realistic. And how is it possible that Rey without any kind of training levitated those rocks - when Luke in TESB couldnt do the same with his ship after hours of training. We have a hundred years old jedi like yoda with a lot of knowledge and skills still he cant fly in space or do what Luke did with that holograph shit.

NOT MUH TITTY MONSTERS

Rogue One had a better plot than this mess. The problem was that the characters were so flat and uninteresting that no one gave a shit when they were all killed off in the end.

But TLJ had several plotlines that were poorly handled and barely even contributed to the movie. It treated a legacy character like Luke Skywalker like shit. It had Shyamalan-like twists just for the sake of shocking the audience, rather than actually advancing the story.

Oh, you were interested in Snoke! Too bad, he was pathetically killed by his own apprentice. I guess Kylo Ren is one of the good guys now! Oh wait, he just wanted to take over the First Order and is now the true villain. Well, too bad that Kylo Ren is a whiny bitch that is impossible to take seriously, while Snoke was more interesting even as a shitty CG character, but I guess you just had to waste all of the potential he had.

And Luke's death was just fucking retarded. He projected himself across the galaxy, showed emoboy how impulsive and incompetent he really is and then he just pulled an Obi-Wan and died while never physically leaving that island. It would have been better if he had physically fought Kylo Ren, but no, they just had to shoehorn in another twist...

Ugh, this movie was just fucking frustrating. It left me feeling drained and dead inside in the worst possible way. It tried to be ESB, but failed miserably. It tried to push the envelope, but got lost in its mess of a plot. They fucked up Luke Skywalker's character. How can you be this retarded?

Why doesnt Kylo have sith eyes
Hes a school shooter with a weak connection to the force i tell you what

R A W P O T E N T I A L

>Rogue One had a better plot
Please, just stop...

Kylo Ren is a walking joke. Just when I thought he couldn't get any worse, he got his ass handed to him by Luke in the worst possible way. Yes, the movie addressed the fact that his obsession with being like Vader was pathetic, but now he's just as pathetic as he's always been and in charge of the entire First Order, which means all the threat that the First Order posed is gone. The First Order is now completely run by idiots and you don't doubt for a moment that they're going to have their asses handed to them.

I don't envy J.J. Abrams trying to salvage the situation for Episode 9. What the fuck can he even do at this point? It was like this movie was a huge fuck you to Abrams over an actually good movie. Rian Johnson was so obsessed with shitting on Abrams that he forgot to actually make something coherent and entertaining. Something that was an actual Star Wars movie.

>unironically believing that TLJ has a better plot than Rogue One

It does. I bet you cried like a bitch when RLM made fun of you too.

Hah okey you got me there.

The aryan guy seemed kinda competent. Maybe Kylo will go off solo to chase rey, gets turned, meanwhile Adolf rebuilds the first order into a meaningful threat and then he dies movie ends

>"it does"
>doesn't even attempt to prove it
nice try friendo
>I bet you cried like a bitch when RLM made fun of you too.
???

Let's be honest here, Star Wars has never been all that good. The sequels are shit. The prequels are shit. The original is a one-to-one rip-off of every "Hero's Journey" guidebook ever, Empire Strikes Back had a shocking twist that wasn't even originally planned just for the sake of it and Return of the Jedi had some cuddly teddy bears defeating an entire legion of Imperial troops with sticks and stones. Not to mention how obnoxious the Ewoks were.

Star Wars has always been overhyped in every single respect.

>prove it
You liked Rogue One, user. There isn't much else I need to do...

Ben went nuts when he was 23 now he is 29, rey doesn't look like a 6yo

>"I have no arguments, user. There isn't much else I need to do..."
ftfy buddy

>he thinks Rogue One was a good film

According to canon, Rey is not much younger than Kylo. Kylo was born close to the end of the Galactic Civil War, mere weeks before the battle for Jakku. Totally plausible Leia got pregnant, Han fucked off and she dumped the kid in fear she would end up like Kylo. If Kylo is around 29 to 30, and Rey 19, there is plausible time there for her to have a second child during Kylo's fall.

Gotta hand it to disney, they probably managed to kill a saga that many thought as being unkillable.

>luke watches sunset
>pulls his x-wing out of the sea
>flies to crait
>duels kylo
>snoke sees kylo is getting defeated
>piles luke, kills the fuck outta him
>resistance go ape shit
>fight back with full force
>snoke flees like a cunt, instantly leaving kylo who is captured by the resistance

idek how this movie could be saved, it SHAT all over the original trilogy

> First Order dreadnought doesn't have stupid self destruct hole but still gets damaged so they have to quit the bombardment
> Hux is actually Maj./Lt. General and there is some full General/Admiral who isn't some skinny boi commanding the FO ops.
> No Leia shooting stars
> No nuke the ship with another ship ruining the purpose of blasters

Snokes death doesn't matter because he's going to return because he is Darth Plaqueis.

user, stop with the denial. She is a nobody

She's not, why do you think Disney is that retarded?

Yes

Do you not see their track record? Almost half of the top grossing films are Disney properties...

So this is what faggots here really want LOL. Yeah keep criticizing when your own ideas are fucking trash.

If that is what the writers of TFA wanted, its thrown out with the bathwater in TLJ. There is no revelation to Rey's origins in this movie (TLJ) and, in my opinion, there will never be one since the mainstream audience was content to just accept Rey in the first one and no writer is stupid enough to try and make a backstory that wont get them in trouble with the Disney overlords.

It's literally going to be the final film reveal, are you seriously this retarded?

>crystal wolves
What's wrong with them?