To clarify something first, I don't think it The Last Jedi was a bad movie

to clarify something first, I don't think it The Last Jedi was a bad movie
BUT, there's literally no scene that actually felt "epic" (for the lack of a better word)
some retarded shit like the casino subplot and super leia aside I wasn't really outright disappointed, but at no point did TLJ have me on the edge of my seat

even shitty Ep. 1 at least had the duel with Darth Maul

When I saw the race track I thought we'd see pod racers and I got all excited. Then those dumbass creatures came out and I lost interest again.

is Luke in anyway badass? even if it's for just one scene?

this is all i care about

Every scene with Luke is good desu. He and Kylo are the only things holding it together.

Really? Luke appraoching the AT-ATs and then facing off to Kylo was "epic" (cringey word but whatever) to me. Snoke's death and the subsequent fight with the guards too.

How the fuck does anyone like that Darth Maul fight? I never understand this. It's not a fight in fact, it's an overchoreographed dance routine. No passion or anger going into any of the lightsaber swings at all, just a series of flips and spins while bounce their lightsabers together. It looks more like a ballet routine than an attempt to kill the opponent. And don't get me started on that bitch ass Darth Maul death. Only good thing is Duel of the Fates.

as opposed to this?

Btfo

>choreographed dance routine
Wew lad. At least the Phantom Menace fight had choreography. The fight with the guards has the guards flailing around, missing, going out of their way to hit Kylo's saber instead of trying to strike him, etc

Except that his storyline betrays his entire character.

>Only good thing is Duel of the Fates.
come to think of it, I can't even remember anything special about the soundtrack or sound effects, expect the movie going silent after they warp the ship into the order fleet (why don't they do this all the time with smaller ships though?)

fuck off back to your 5 second webms retard, Luke was the only good thing in this shitfest

>even shitty Ep. 1 at least had the duel with Darth Maul

Which also wasn't captivating or interesting. It was literally two guys fighting another guy because he was in their way. They didn't know each other, the characters had no history. It was literally just "a lightsaber fight because Star Wars has lightsaber fights".

I have no idea why people constantly bring up the Darth Maul fight from TPM as if it was a plus. It was shit, like the rest of the film.

>I don't think it The Last Jedi was a bad movie
does your anencephaly affect your quality of life?

he was horrible, based Hammil also said he hated what they did with the character

I remember seeing it as a ten year old in the cinema and my jaw basically dropped when he revealed this double light saber
I'll admit that there might be some romanticization on my part going on

any other points from plinkett reviews you want to parrot?

It's still not as bad as the saber fight in RotS.

Yeah, yeah, you can talk about "what" they were fighting over, but it was drawn-out and just used to show off some visuals in the background. Terrible choreography on par with the Obi-Wan/Grevious fight.

>my jaw basically dropped when he revealed this double light saber

Good on you for managing to avoid it, but they 'spoiled' Maul's dual lightsaber in the trailers. Most everybody knew it was going to happen.

>If your opinion happens to line up with some shitty internet critic, it isn't valid
Amazing argument

>It's still not as bad as the saber fight in RotS.
Sure, but they're both shit for different reasons. I'm not going to give TPM a pass because it could have been worse.

>redeem literally hitlar but can't redeem faggot emo cousin

lol sure

I know that scene with the guards was clumsy, but I'd rather a clumsy fight than a ballet routine. The former seems more viable to me. I'm not gonna defend that moment too much but that had just seen their supreme leader cut in half by his own apprentice, you could forgive them for being a bit flustered.

idk what it is, but the OT isn’t “epic”, but it keeps my interest. The PT doesn’t grab my interest besides a few “epic” moments. I’m seeing TLJ tonight, but these spoilers make it seem bland, and TFA only piqued my interest with no “epic” moments. Will report back

>amazing music one of the best in all franchise
>had the tragic scene it
>had room for breath(the part with Obi-Wan waiting was great)
>many think the choreography was the best in any star wars movie
>Maul was mysterious and looked great also he was really strong and intimidating because of this
>double blade saber
>had a twist in the end
Yeah I wonder why people like it...

This was epic:

Protip: most of Star Wars is dogshit even your precious OT

>even your precious OT
I'll fite u irl

The end with Luke facing the army was epic to me.

Prequel lovers will be redeemed!

I think Snoke throne room scene was pretty ebig, it just loses a lot of impact because it doesn't happen in a finale

good argument. He's talking about the character and him being a grumpy old hermit who wants to kill his nephew cause he saw evil in him is pants on fire retarded

*inhales*

There is no justification for Leia surviving cold killing space

"oh fuck he stuck his light saber in the ground, better walk around him"

that guy on the left with the spear is chasing a ghost or something

this gets worse the more you look at it

Just so you know, Alec Guiness himself absolutely hates Star Wars.
Not just the prequels or nu-star wars but your precious OT too, he hates it all. "Fairy-tale rubbish" are his exact words. He hated working on it, he hated all of his dialogue and the character of Ben Kenobi, he hated it all, done it just for the money but regrets it deeply.

>"In the final volume of the book A Positively Final Appearance (1997), Guinness recounts grudgingly giving an autograph to a young fan who claimed to have watched Star Wars over a hundred times, on the condition that the boy promise to stop watching the film because "this is going to be an ill effect on your life". Guinness is quoted as saying: "'Well', I said, 'do you think you could promise never to see Star Wars again?' He burst into tears. His mother drew herself up to an immense height. 'What a dreadful thing to say to a child!' she barked, and dragged the poor kid away. Maybe she was right but I just hope the lad, now in his thirties, is not living in a fantasy world of second hand, childish banalities."

I didn't see the point of her surviving at all, why did they introduce the character of Laura Dern in the first place then

>super Leia
>not epic as heck

>why did they introduce the character of Laura Dern in the first place then
For the epic STRONK SO BRAVE WOMEN point

OH NO NO NO NO NO

"hey joe come over here there is someone asking for you" "i'll be right there"

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

It was bad when I watched it in the cinema earlier so of course having it in gif form will make it even worse. Although it doesn't quite capture how cheap and awful the "armour" of those goons looks.

lol I’d put a bullet in your head if u said that shit to my face, buddeh :^).

I have been saying for a year that this movie hinges on if Luke gets into at least one sabre battle/duel and absolutely wrecks someone with his advances/old man jedi power.

This movie did not deliver that and people are pissed.

the guy is just bitter that people will remember him as a side character in a fantasy movie and not for his more kino stuff
it's understandable, but it doesn't mean that the movie which overshadowed his career actually is shitty

>hating darth maul fight

Plebbit confirmed

Luke literally did a matrix slow mo "bend" I mean what the fuck

As a hologram. KEK.

The ONE thing people wanted in this movie was for Luke to wreck some fuckers and they couldn't even get that right.

Yoda makes fun of him for being a little bitch, he admits to not actually reading the Jedi texts, Rey kicks his ass, projects himself to another planet just so he can die to Kylo for muh Obi Wan parallel. I've never seen such a fundamental misunderstanding of a character before, they made him absolutely pathetic.

>The ONE thing people wanted in this movie was for Luke to wreck some fuckers
Luke barely 'wrecks' anyone in the OT, why would they be expecting him to be a badass warrior all of a sudden? The most action he sees is at Jabbas Palace.

>all of a sudden
>30 years after RotJ
They want him to wreck shit because of the EU.

>many think the choreography was the best in any star wars movie
Obi Wan vs Darth Maul is the 3rd best fight in the series.

The same EU that was thrown out of the window by the sequels existing in the first place?

It's a fucking plot point in TLJ that Luke was never a 'great' Jedi and his reputation preceded him, which became his downfall.

literally no one except some turbo nerds even know or care about this shit

grow up

>star wars isn't made for children and turbo nerds

it's not, it's popular culture as in you can barely find someone under a certain age who hasn't seen it

>caring enough to post in an autistic Star Wars thread
The absolute state of (You)

Despite having Jedi powers?

Truly the worst thing about the movie is some moron made it so when the destroyers are shooting at the rebels they literally LOB the shots. Like the shoot em like artillery. Lasers, in space, shot at an arc, like there is wind resistance, and weight to LIGHT. It's clear the people making this shit are total fucking idiots when it comes to space/sci-fi anything.

That is what depresses me about the whole thing. There are such great minds that can work within sci-fi and StarWars gets the shit tier work.

He understood cinema changed for worse from that movie (and Jaws).
Not that this stopped him asking for a nice %