Zod's ship, along with its crew land in the MCU
Could they be stopped?
Zod's ship, along with its crew land in the MCU
Could they be stopped?
Zod on his own would wreck every avenger.
Maybe if Thanos came to earth to look for an infinity stone, and got annoyed by Zod he might pose a threat.
With Thor, Vision and Hulk MAYBE.
Since they are the heroes of the movie, yes.
They even try to save people while fighting.
Easily.
Avengers + Shield would hold the kryptonians enough until Tony or Banner came up with a way to neutralize them.
>until Tony or Banner came up with a way to neutralize them
QUIPTONITE
just use kryptonite like nigga its a green rock
>Zod: Kneel before Zod
>Stark: At least take me out to dinner first
>*laugh track*
They may have a deterraforming device, but MCU has quips
Kryptonians are weak to magic
Thor, Scarlet Witch, and Doctor Strange have magic
The Avengers have Thor, Scarlet Witch and Doctor Strange.
Therefore Kryptonians are weak to the Avengers.
It's not a weakness, it's a vulnerability.
Same damn thing.
No, just being around magic doesn't make them weaker. It depends on the spell.
Kryptonite is a weakness, magic is not.
when you are an invulnerable god it is the same fucking thing. Sup Forums is so autistic when it comes to this, when a person is invulnerable to everything a vulnerability IS a weakness.
Superman fags are really dumb when it comes to this
You're just being a pedantic dick and a moron since "weakness" and "vulnerabilities" are fucking synonyms.
>Mindfucked by Mr. Doctor and put back in one of those dildos.
>Arrives in another planet
>Zod will be back in Thor: RagnaROCK
The Avengers have a couple infnity stones in their disposal, so I don't see the Kryptonians being anything more than a nuisance.
The point of clarifying the difference is that magic is not autowin like kryptonite could be. With kryptonite there's nothing special to it, just the radiation itself is enough. With magic they would have to know how the vulnerability works and use a spell that is specific enough to take them down. Like if they use magic to levitate normal stuff as projectiles that doesn't do anything.
Thanos lands in the DCEU, could he stop the Justice League?
No, because the infinity stones dont exist in the DCEU... checkmate mouseketeers.
>dr Strange
>Thor
>Hulk
>vision
>scarlett Witch given a few years training
alternatively
>magic is just science Tony turns off Zods powers
MCU is fine
>>dr Strange
>>Thor
>>Hulk
They get curbstomped in 3 minutes or less. They're horrifically neutered in this universe.
we haven't seen MCU Thanos' power yet, but either he himself is/has henchmen capable/has tech on planetbuster level. JL gets rekt
weakness != auto win. you twist words to make them seem something they don't mean. Sure, Kryptonite and magic effect Superman differently, but that's not the point
If Doctor Strange has the Eye then Kryptionians stand no chance.
>>>dr Strange
>neutered
what movie did you watch? he time looped an entity from another dimension. A god far beyond Superman
My point is that simply having magic doesn't mean they have a chance (which is what the original post suggested to me) due to the specific mechanics involved.
But it does. Cause against magic Superman is just a human. It is literally nothing for Strange or Wanda to erase him from reality
The Eye of Agamotto is stronger than anything shown in the DCEU so far.
I don't think you can take the Vision, he's so strong
Except wanda is just notjean grey in this verse, and dr. strange is nowhere near that powerful.
I doubt it. People are throwing out Doctor Strange and Scarlet Witch, but I highly doubt they'd get serious quickly enough to stop the Kryptonians.
The instant Zod realized one or any of them were threatening, he'd put them down faster than human reaction speed would allow a counter for. Scarlet Witch struggled to restrain Vision in Civil War, and Zod is much, much stronger than Vision.
Zod solo would be an okay match that the MCU might be able to win if they were aware of just how strong Zod was from the start. But Zod and just two Kryptonian soldiers would be more than enough to put everyone in the MCU - Strange, Witch and Thanos included - in the fucking ground.
>because the infinity stones dont exist
>>Thinks Thanos needs Infinity Stones
>>Casual
Until thanos just grabs that shit from him and breaks it to steal the gem. Fucking retarded that they made it one of the infinity stones.
They wouldn't. There's no beacon on MCU Earth to draw them there.
And even if they did why would they stay? They need the Codex to rebuild Krypton, which
doesn't exist there.
And if we're comparing macguffins wouldn't the Tessaract basically just send them to the phantom zone or across the universe again?
>Cause against magic Superman is just a human.
Again, that's not how it works. It depends on the spell. He (or going back to OP's scenario, any Kryptonian) still has his powers unless you cast a spell to take them away.
And MCU Wanda hasn't done anything that big, don't be retarded. Strange certainly could but it's debatable whether he would.
DCshills.
So sad.
Keep your console wars faggotry out of the thread, thanks.
why would they if Kal-El isn't there
>ZOD! I come to bargain!
>52 neck snaps later
>ZOD! I come to bargain!
Thor, Hulk, and Vision could fight them. Though MCU Thor might struggle against Kryptonians later.
Wanda can neutralize them with mind powers.
Stark would have to discover their Kryptonite weakness. Then make a kryptonite powered suit. that shoots kryptonite energy beams. KryptonBuster.
Antman can disable their tech until they develop and control their vision powers.
Spiderman can stand up to them early.
Cap and Winter Soldier get beat in the first stand up fight.
everyone else is useless.
Doctor Strange alone could handle them
Let me make an example. Say you have a magic spell that summons a weak blast of water. Kryptonians won't be hurt by that, because it' still just water.
They have a regular human's resistance to magic.
Whereas if you gently threw a rock of kryptonite at them, so gently that it wouldn't hurt a child they'd still get blown the fuck out by it.
lol
>literal DC vs Marvel thread
>keep your console wars out of the thread
WAT
Thor and Scarlet Witch don't have magic in the MCU
That trick only worked on Dormammu because his dimension had no time. In facy, it probably wouldn't even work a second time because now Dormammu has a concept of it and can plan accordingly.
A lot of retards in this thread are getting the comics confused with the movies.
Thor, Vision, and Hulk can stall the 3 kryptonians while Iron Man sciences some shit and the rest destroy the ship.
Supe's man disadvantage is that he was spread thin as fuck.
He doesn't have to be. Strange can just open a mirror dimension portal, bait them into it, and close it on them. Kryptonans aren't "punching reality" tier in the DCEU so they'd be stuck in a psuedo-phantom zone.
DANCE OFF ZOD
Shut the fuck up, everyone knows what it means.
Just.
Shut the fuck up.
No
No Avenger in the MCU is powerful enough.
Hulk and Thor are the only ones with a fighting chance, but they get their asses handed to them all the time by others who aren't as strong as them.
>Strange can just open a mirror dimension portal
Unless a kryptonian simply uses their speed to just snatch that stupid sling ring out of his hands and breaks it.
They arrive, but they wouldn't be able to do shit as didn't superman have something in his blood that they needed to actually jumpstart the colonization project?
Zod ain't got anybody to spite by terraforming the place
They've have to know that's the purpose of the ring first. Why would they?
>Could they be stopped?
Mr Doctor warps them into one of the shitloads of other dimmensions (propably right back to their own cancervese).
Kryptonite wouldn't exist in the MCU if Krypton didn't.
Even if you make synthetic Kryptonite it doesn't work as well or at all sometimes.
You're vastly overestimated how strong Hulk, Thor and Vision are. None of them are anywhere near as strong OR durable as what the kryptonians showed off in Man of Steel. Hell, none of them are even fast enough to land hits on the kryptonians. Faora would have every single Avenger on their ass inside of 2 seconds.
Remember the scene in Civil War where Winter Soldier tries to punch Spider-Man with his bionic arm, and Spider-Man casually catches it and starts remarking on how cool it is? That's the equivalent of the strongest MCU characters trying to throw a punch at any of the kryptonians. They would catch it, remark on how pathetic it was, and then knock Hulk/Vision/Thor backwards a few hundred yards.
They'd figure it out pretty fucking fast as he's holding it and making circles with his hand for 10 seconds.
Here's how Superman's magic weakness works. If the spell is a damage spell, he still resists it just like he resists all damage. If the spell has some specific effect, like shapeshifting, paralysis, or instant death, Superman is affected like anyone else.
Wizards can beat superman with their utility spells, but a sorcerer built for blasting will never hut him.
>everyone knows but they keep suggesting things that wouldn't work
k
Its considered poor form to bring up the fact that Zod's presence on Earth is due entirely to Clark's actions and existence
This is the only user in whole fucking thread who knows something about movies/comics. Zods whole purpose was to protect Krypton, not to destroy other planets. Withoul Clark he propably will join Avengers.
Wanda took down the Vision. She over powered a fucking infinity stone!
>Kryptonians
>Ever using super-reflexes to prevent someone from using a weapon against them.
It's like you don't understand the tropes of your own comic/movie universe.
Try reading comics.
Kryptonians tank everything like morons. Always.
Without Kryptonite they're fucked
Did you not watch the movie? He can send them to the mirror dimension with a gesture. Getting OUT requires the ring. Shattering it only strands Strange there with them.
>Vision
>you can not literally touch him, while he can smash your heart from inside
And? It just looks like a pair of brass knuckles.
Yeah, they're going to just stand there as he's slowly moving his hand in a circle for like 3 minutes.
Vision can kill Zod just by phasing through him.
None of yhe Avengers are fast enough to hit or dodge the kryptonians
>Superspeed around snapping everyone's neck who's vulnerable
>Rip Vision apart when he endures
>Tear Stark's armor apart and Star along with it
>Throw Hulk into space
Thor will be the last one alive but by that point he'll be getting his ass beat by the entire crew
Vision can go intangible and has a freaking infinity stone. His cells are also made from invulnerable Vibranium metal.
Hulk definitely has the strength and durability. his speed is lacking though.
Thor will have to play range DPS. lightning and hammer blows.
>Vision
infinity stone. same goes for Dr Strange
YES.
That's exactly how Superman and his villains work. Also, bonus points for not knowing how the Mirror World works either.
You're just a bundle of stupid today.
go ahead and spill it all out.
>but a sorcerer built for blasting will never hut him.
please explain why Black Atom hurts him so much then.
>it's three minutes now
Zod is a prideful moron with no exposure whatsoever to humanity or magic and it takes like ten seconds MAX to open a portal. There's absolutely no reason to assume he'd immediately perceive the threat and how to deal with it.
And that's overlooking the fact that he doesn't INSTANTLY get full Kryptonian powers even in the DCEU.
>Hulk definitely has the strength and durability. his speed is lacking though.
Got his ass kicked by fucking iron man.
Thor nearly got taken out by a fucking pocket knife. Not to mention, again, having a real hard time with iron man of all people.
I seriously doubt he's strong enough. I know for a fact he's not fast enough. Kryptonian cells are so dense he might have issues phasing through it, as well. Kind of like how Kitty Pryde struggles to phase through adamantium/vibranium.
Bolts from Shazam-powered people are enchanted not just lightning.
Would Thor's lightning work on them? Shazam's does.
Shazam is magic, thor is not.
Not unless it has special properties. If it's just normal lightning it won't do shit.
>Got his ass kicked by fucking iron man
Not really. He just got stalled until he calmed down.
>Thor nearly got taken out by a fucking pocket knife
So did Zod, back on Krypton.
Zod could have fucked off to mars or any other hospitable planet once he had the codex. He decided to fuck up earth regardless.
>None of yhe Avengers are fast enough to hit or dodge the kryptonians
Kryptonians don't fight with super-speed normally, just like Superman in the comic books.
Superspeed against Doomsday? Nope.
Superspeed against Zod? Not particularly.
Supes and Faora were fighting at normal speed relative to all the normies standing around.
In fact, Faora's use of super-reflexes against the soldiers is practically the only use of it.
Same as comics, it's the first power they forget they have.
>Not really. He just got stalled until he calmed down.
He literally knocked out the hulk with a punch.
That's my question. Does Thor's lightning have any magical properties to it?
That's what I'm saying. MAGIC HURTS SUPERMAN! Magic fireballs/lightning hurts him
I dunno, Thor already confirmed their magic is just advanced technology. So the lightning might just be normal lightning and not magic lighting like Shazam's
Hulk got knocked out in the MCU. Like, Iron Man punched him a few times and knocked him out. He'd be KO'd and back to Banner form before he could get angry enough to even be amusing for the kryptonians, and even his best feats in those movies aren't on their level.
Vision's infinity stone didn't do much in Civil War, when Wanda kept him on lockdown and even Clint fucking Barton was able to give him a mild bit of trouble. He's slow, and he's weak.
Doctor Strange doesn't carry the Eye of Agamotto at all times. Activating it is pretty slow, as well. He's a non-entity in this fight.
Not in the movies.
When was this? It wasn't in AoU.
I remember because Sup Forums spent a month afterwards bitching about the "go to sleep" thing which was multiple punches.
Fuck off, Thor can do both. If the lighting is from the sky it's natural, if it's from the hammer it's magic
Not in the MCU one, at least not stated. Only Loki seems to have any "real" magic connections or awareness, and he never even used that in any of his schemes.
Even the characters who's powerset IS super-reflexes forget they have it all the time at DC.
Not exactly, anything strong enough hurts him. When you're that strong punching him works too. Their lightning is an extension of their strength.
Kryptonians are weak to electricity though. Supergirl said so herself in that Batgirl issue and her and Clark have gotten fucked up by livewire before because of it.
>I dunno, Thor already confirmed their magic is just advanced technology
I honestly think that line was misinterpreted. I think what he meant was that magic is repeatable and commonplace enough to be indistinguishable.
and there have been times where they just tank lightning bolts and electricity.
Dr. Strange MCU wins out.
Dude time locked a God who took awhile to notice. Zod would never even get to bargaining, he'd just be negative zoned in the timelock.