He lost again? Are you fucking serious

He lost again? Are you fucking serious........

THE FORCE IS FEMALE YOU ALT-RIGHT BIGOT MANCHILD GO BACK TO Sup Forums!

Look at it as her losing a chance to marry him and be the Supreme Leader's consort.

This, but less satirical and more genuine.

Does anyone even desire to see her win at this point? It feels like we never see her truly low/down giving us that feeling of motivation to see her succeed. There doesn't feel like there's a climb for her to make.

He even managed to lose to snoke guards and had to be rescued

She was getting beaten by just the dual blade guy while Kylo was holding his own 3 on 1

shut your mouth you fucking Nazi.

Unironically rustled my jimmies. ngl

It's wild that, it felt like, every 5min they went out of their way to insert some skronk woman meme in while simultaneously demoralizing men.

This movie was insufferable. At least the ended this year and their franchise w/ a bang

>tfw there's not a single thing Rey has to overcome in the final film
>tfw overpowered enemy was already killed
so this is the power of 'winging it' film to film...

What the fuck, is this image actually like this in the movie? That's not how you hold a sword, both of them look retarded.
I understand it's not nothing to simulate the force and pressure of a real swordfight when all you're holding is a hilt but what the fuck, don't they have coordinators for this?

I finished watching TLJ two hours ago and I honestly don't remember the ending of their meeting. They killed all the red guards and then? I just remember Hux finding Kylo laying unconcious on the floor.

The whole scene was a sexual metaphore. She just came before he did.

The entire movie is metaphore for disney fucking your brain and your wallet

This is your big bad villain. A whiny cunt who has had several chances to redeem himself, but rather than go the interesting route, Disney thinks it's a TWEEEEEEEST to keep him on as a cunt. Not to mention this faggot has lost to Rey everytime they fight. Why should we care about the next film?

Vader fought Luke twice, won the first time, and the 2nd time his son had a chance to kill him but ending up putting himself in danger so Vader redeemed himself to save his son.

Palpatine was a master manipulator from the start and we saw his every move get put into place. Once we got to Ep III and we saw him having finally fully manipulated Anakin it was genuinely interesting to watch. We knew the outcome already, but it was fun to see how it all played out at least.

Kylo is insignificant and will lose. Rey has no faults and has never lost to Kylo because apparently women ever having flaws or losing is sexist now.

Kek, this really happened. The writers hate this guy.

They hate their entire audience

Joke's on them, I didn't pay a cent for this garbage.

I hate their audience too.

One thing I think TLJ deserves credit for is how it addressed the (completely legitimate) Mary Sue argument from TFA. She gets completely blown the fuck out by Snoke. She gets blown the fuck out by Kylo Ren when she thinks she turned him but couldn't be more wrong. She isn't pulling off some crazy shitty stunts in the Falcon, her final force moment was the completely reasonable but still impressive rock digging.

If Rey was like this in the first movie she would almost be the best Star Wars protagonist.

>He lost
No he didn't. Isn't the whole point that they're balanced? Nobody can win. They'll always be at a stalemate.

well actually if you remember there are exactly ZERO light saber duels in TLJ. Thats right a star wars movie with ZERO light saber duels, to say he lost is one thing but there was actually no fight, no duel, no sabers clashing.

It's not fucking starwars it is a disney cash grab and it was fucking horrible

I was honestly hoping for Kylo and Rey to get together, leave behind the Jedi and Sith, the Rebellion and the Empire, leave it all behind and go full on Grey Code.

same 2bh 2bh at least fuck or kiss or something

>star wars needs lightsaber dools, pls lightsaber dool i need I NEED FIGHT PLS DISNEY PFJFJTHTHHGHGHGH
t. numale starwars shitter

Disney is too basic and boring for that shit. Would have been cool though.

All fan theories were better than the real movie.

well kylo was saying something like that

Kylo asked her to break the wheel with him. Fuck the empire, fuck the rebels. Let’s start a new regime. He holds out his hand. She goes to use the force and pull out her saber, he grabs it too. They do a little tug of war and it explodes. The impact knocks him out and the scene cuts. Next time we’re back Hux finds Kylo on the floor and Rey’s gone.

It was a draw and she caught him off guard. He was offering the hand of friendship and she pulled the saber. They wrestled with it using the force and it blew up knocking them both out.

What are you all on about? He killed the most powerful character in star wars canon and became emperor of the galaxy.

the lightsaber breaking between them was likely to show they are equal

just as snoke said, kylos equal in the light arose

>Rey beats two of them
>Kylo solos like five of them before needing Rey's help to beat the last one
????????

It makes no sense because even an injured Kylo should have been able to whoop an untrained girl after seeing him slaughter those poor red power rangers.

I thought he was way more powerful to be honest.

Why are we no longer allowed to have imposing and capable villains.

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Kylo was clearly framed as the more experienced duelist in that fight. They very deliberately switched from Kylo handling three at once to Rey struggling against one.

>we never see her truly low/down giving us that feeling of motivation to see her succeed. There doesn't feel like there's a climb for her to make
Textbook mary sue.

Except Kylo was trained since a very young age and Rey just kinda is super overpowered for no good reason. She's not even a Skywalker like Ben.

>the most powerful character in star wars canon
The guy who claimed he could see every thought and every intention in Kylo Ren's mind, and somehow didn't see what he was planning and how he was going to do it? And we haven't seen any of his power other than force pushing people around pretty hard.

Singular cool moment of the entire film

He did see Kylo’s intention. He just assumed that intention was towards Rey not towards him.

His overconfidence blinded him, just like the emperor in episode VI

How come she is better with the force, though?

This. This makes absolutely no sense.

>Not liking the cruiser shotgun.
Pleb

She wouldn't stop making loud screeching noises while she fought. As if her being on the screen wasn't enough attention

He saw that Kylo was fiddling with the lightsaber next to Snoke and thought he was going to use it to kill Rey instead of the lightsaber he already had in his hand?

She's a literal nobody with super powers until they release another movie saying she's actually leias lost cousin

Why did she leave without killing him while he was unconscious. How did she escape the ship. Why cant movie writers spend 5 minutes proofreading the shit that flows out of their mouth?

he literally just saw that kylo was moving a lightsaber to kill a person that was his enemy

Cinematically it was great, but it retroactively creates a literally unfixable plot hole spanning the entire series

Why ever fight with space ships and lasers when you can equip a heap of space junk with an engine and a hyperdrive and kamikaze your target at light speed?

Fair enough.

We can do that in real life, problem is it's not cost effective when you can get bombard shit just fine.

Because she’s good. Goodies don’t murder unconscious opponents. Also she’s convinced she can redeem him.

She escaped on Snokes personal escape pod (Hux tells Kylo that when he wakes him up) and got picked up by Chewie like they planned.

The better thing it did for her Mary Sue ness was have her say she's scared of her power early on to Luke. It makes it reasonable that she's super powerful but knows it and is scared of it. Still not great but TFA never said she felt like that and it hurt the character.

>it's not cost effective
I'm pretty evacuating a cruiser and leaving a droid (or just programming an autopilot) to fly it into the Death Star at lightspeed would have been much more cost effective than sending the entirety of your fleet into a massive space battle in which most of it got obliterated. In a universe where virtually every space ship has a hyperdrive it would be extremely efficient to fight your battles by just lightspeeding shit at the enemy.

>We can do that in real life, problem is it's not cost effective when you can get bombard shit just fine.

Except that's not what happened. All they have to do is keep their ships far enough away that their cannons wont get through their shields.

Even the best moment in this film is ruined once you sit back and think about how it ruins the entirety of this series.

Guys, guys, guys. Why don't militaries just bankrupt themselves creating massively expensive , one-use, gigantic kinetic torpedoes with the engines and power supply of their largest battle ships that takes years to build?

No enemy fleet is going to stay in tight formations after the first one is used and they get a few lucky kills. Fleets will move away from capital ships to having swarms of destroyers/cruisers that are spread out with jump/deploy/jump fighter carriers that leave before they can be targeted. Neither side has the money to throw away capital ships to hopefully trade 1 for 1. Etc, etc.

.... come on guys. I know it is star "lightsaber porn" wars but can we at least pretend to think before we speak?

There's no reason that every single fleet isn't just a swarm of disposable droid ships with hyperdrives.

Hyperdrives themselves seem to be both ubiquitous and inexpensive, and a swarm of superluminal, instantaneously accelerating relativistic kill vehicles solves every conceivable space combat scenario.

>energy projectiles somehow lose power over distance in a zero G vacuum environment
How can cannons lose effectiveness over distance in fucking space

Every single X-Wing has a hyperdrive. They're clearly not expensive, and being hit by literally anything going at the speed of light will fucking ruin your day. Every space combat would be a case of meeting the enemy, bombarding them with hyper-light kamikaze fighers and then calling it a day.

>when you stick it up her ass

i've seen dogs with better acting

>Every space combat would be a case of meeting the enemy, bombarding them with hyper-light kamikaze fighers and then calling it a day.
They'd just invent some bullshit shield technology capable of surviving being rammed at superluminal speed

They don't, the rebels were out of range of the big guns that could penetrate the shields, Hux for some reason just say to keep firing at them with their normal guns anyway to "remind them that we're here"

>THE FORCE IS FEMALE
?

Probably because she still wants the dick

Snoke literally explained it though. With Ben's rising power in the dark side, his counterpart in the light grows stronger to match. It's the balance of the force ffs, there's always a big bad and a light side hero. That's how this shit works.

>killed most powerful dude so he can rule the galaxy with her
>refuses to be his empress because?

I mean, she could have compromised and told him she'd join him but he's not allowed to kill her friend or some shit.

Yes, but the fact that they somehow haven't got this technology on their main gigantic flagship, despite literally every random fighter jockey having the ability to an hero at >c at will, is what wrecks the internal consistence of the entire series in hindsight

Because, as Luke said, the force isn't a power that Jedi have. It exists on its own.

>Rey is only powerful because of Ben

and SJW like this trilogy? Though I guess it's good for shipags because she was literally made for him.

So, what's supposed to happen? If they bang, does that equal balance? Or does one have to die.

He lost against a shadow clone, the ultimate insult.

Well he did kill Luke.

I honestly think Ren is right. Forget the Jedi and sith. Light and dark joining us probably the only solution. If one does another will just rise in their place. The light side or dark side isnt going away. Balance is equal parts of both, not one destroying the other.

This is why they must bang. Rey was the true villain all along by rejecting his offer and Kylo the hero.

What a tweest!

The origin of the force comes from a giant space vagina, get with the times.

Then why the fuck do any of them bother to train? If it literally doesn't matter and it always balances out anyway?

Yeah, except Kylo keeps losing to her. So how the fuck is that balanced at all?

He didn't lose to her in TLJ at all

Oh I dunno, learning how to use it properly intead of just raw power fuckery. Orfinding more useful ways to use it instead of just muh force push/pull

...

You guys are all worse than Tumblr being triggered when something happens to (insert whatever gender)

i think you mean the force is a BLACK FEMALE

Its okay lad, Kylo is gonna have the last laugh.

>movie ends
>Rey you are pregnant
>what? ... oh wait "flashback to their sex scene"

He got knocked out, she fucked off. Even if they both were knocked out, she got up first, implying Kylo was hit harder. That's the third time this fuck up has lost.

(you)

How does it feel white men?

Your time is over. Stop being intimidated by strong women and hand the torch over.

I just don't get it.

Are you supposed to hate Kylo because he 'killed' Luke and Han? And that's what makes him into the big bad villain?

He's a bumbling chucklefuck.

Snoke got Dooku'd so fucking hard.

I thought Finn was the tracking beacon. Like he had implanted in him somehow(like the cut saying they had them tied to string, then it cuts to Finn). That entire sidequest was fucking shit.

hey dude I think your mom finished ironing out your Zelda shirt

>Snoke, the "big bad" gets betrayed pathetically while literally talking about how he'd never be betrayed
>Phasma shows up for a minute and then dies immediately
>Hux is quite literally a punching bag for every character and only serves a comedic relief
>Kylo lost to the hero twice already and even got rejected like a faggy emo kid when he asked her to join her
Explain to me how the next movie could possibly be good in any way shape or form? The First Order is a complete fucking joke.

>Hux is quite literally a punching bag for every character and only serves a comedic relief
I wonder how pathetic his death will be.

Would laff.

But Kylo didn't lose? He only had two fights, one where he beat the guards and the other where he 'beat' Luke's projection.

The thing that bothered me was that they kept talking about how the ship was being tracked and then immediately cutting to a closer-up of Finn's tracking beacon thing. They kept hinting at it being used to track them multiple times, only for them to just say that the First Order now has the ability to track ships, they didn't even have a proper fake-out with it.

Literally every single fighter that was destroyed at the battle of Yavin 4 could have instead killed a Star Destroyer, and probably dealt massive damage to the Death Star itself

I don't hate Kylo because he killed Han or "killed" Luke. I hate Kylo because he is incompetent. I only started liking him when he decided to take Snoke's death as an opportunity to grab power. That was a good move. I would have liked him and the movie more if Rey had turned to the dark side.

>Rey's pregnant.
>Kylo is stuck paying child support.

Uh no.