Why can't the west be more like the east and make more cartoons with overarching stories and character development...

Why can't the west be more like the east and make more cartoons with overarching stories and character development instead of episodic comedies.

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because animation is a dying trade skill in the weat

This. There are very few people going to school to actually learn to animate; rather, they teach for the job you're most likely to get out of school, which is digital animation for some cheap Flash cartoon.

None of this really effects the writing, which is what OP is asking about.

To be fair, it's a dying trade skill in the east too

especially when animation can be outsourced, which it was for TLA.

Because through intensive market research, it's quite obvious that there is very little interest with animation in the west, profitability is rock bottom.

source or are you baselessly assuming the western market is being rational here

There's a stigma against animation in the west in that it's believed to before children. Even with things like Rick and Morty gaining popularity, specifically adult oriented shows are considered a niche market and everything else is considered "not JUST for kids" at best. Because of that, less episodic shows are less likely to be funded because CEOs believe that kids are too impatient to follow along with shows with over-arcing plots, and they're not entirely wrong.

That show has none of those things, but anyway shows like Avatar make Tex Avery turn in his grave.

We want intelligent comedies with character development and one shoot stories but in a overarching ark.

But 1 thing to note is NO BROWN, GRAY, PINK AND PURPLE IN THE BACKGROUNDS, you have 16.7 million colors to use, use them and don't use crayon box colors as you color pallet.
If the animation staff isn't getting paid at least $20 dollars a hour, getting say on the production and is getting at least 20% of the royalty fees then it's just best worth avoiding.

This is the stupidest thing

Networks want shows they can play out of order.

It's not, it's intelligent.

>Voltron
>Bad color

Fuck off TMSfag

You never use pink & purple in backgrounds.

johnkstuff blog /2009/10/jetsons-85-backgrounds.html

I think this article talks about it.
indiewire.com/2016/03/does-serialization-really-hurt-a-cartoons-ratings-122354/
>Televised cartoons can trace their roots back to the classic shorts of Hollywood’s golden age. >After their initial life on the big screen, they found a second life on the small one being packaged up and syndicated to the newly-launched TV stations as a form of cheap time-filler.
>The advent of more formal syndication rules in the US led to the classic 65-episode TV series that was adapted by every major studio that produced for the medium.
>The rerun became a staple of kid’s entertainment that proved to be extremely durable despite its audience’s notoriously short attention spans.
>It continues to this day, as cartoons on all three major US networks are broadcast continuously even in the off-season.
>Serialization (or series with story arcs spread across multiple episodes) are rare in children’s television for precisely this reason.
>Networks can rerun episodes out of order and the effect on the audience is imperceptible.

Actually if you have the characters in an environment that is purple, it's best to use purple to represent it than to leave the rest of the shot blank.The tone of the composition end up having much better balance that way.

Because autists make only a very small portion of viewer base?

Hayao Miyazaki & John K say otherwise.

Serialization doesn't necessary hurt ratings, but everyone try to be the next LOST season 2, skipping LOST season 1. Both live-action and cartoons are struggling when they expect someone to just sit there for months waiting for show to finally pay off.

...

Thats blue with a wood floor, some things you can't avoid brown, see here.

You want the harsh, depressing truth?
There have never been any good cartoons. At best, they are mediocre. This is not to say that all anime is remotely good, nor that anime itself hasn't taken a significant hit in quality recently, but there's still really no comparison.

As for the reasons why, it's quite simple actually, but again not politically correct. America is the only country that can actually compete (particularly on marketing and distribution) with Japan's entrenched monopoly. Even if a good cartoon happens to come from another country, nobody will watch it. Unfortunately, America lacks the depth of Japan's history, culture, and values entirely, meaning that only writers who deliberately work outside the mold can even do semi-decently, and they will still be brought down by the rest of the crew, working with cliches and stereotypes.

(A good example of the latter is Aaron Ehasz apparently going out of his way to include deep aspects of eastern philosophy in Avatar, which may have been a primary factor in the claimed tension with Bryke over the writing of Book 3.)

Oh yeah, and before laughing at this post, Sup Forums, you really should take a good long look in the mirror and ask yourself why it's constantly the same few 2000s animesque series that are talked about by far the most around here.

It's certainly not the nostalgia factor, because otherwise we would have far more 2000s cartoons discussion. (Plus, there are those like myself, who never saw the shows or at least many of the episodes when they first aired, and yet still vastly prefer them not only to modern cartoons, but also to those that came before.)

Cartoons popular with children tend to be episodic. Cartoons with overarching plot tend to be more popular with older viewers. Most animation products are still aimed at children here because most exist to sell merchandise that older viewers are less likely to buy

Its a problem entirely with demographics who want to feel like they're mature for watching a cartoon that serialized and "mature" and are unwilling to accept that the industry doesn't care about them

But it's clear OP isn't just talking about episodic per se. Otherwise, we could include the myriad of cartoons that feature callbacks throughout.
OP wants cartoons with deep storylines and characterization, and those don't exist, period.

And he has his answer. The animation industry in our country isn't aimed at his wants, its aimed that the demographic most profitable, children. And what he wants is a bit stupid to begin with since there are plenty of live action shows that meet his needs, he just wants them animated

OPs first mistake was presuming most anime has deep storytelling when it's just as rare there as a show with deep story here.

>A good example of the latter is Aaron Ehasz apparently going out of his way to include deep aspects of eastern philosophy in Avatar, which may have been a primary factor in the claimed tension with Bryke over the writing of Book 3.
This seems like bullshit to me considering how into eastern philosophy Konietzko is, and how Bryke wrote the guru.

bullshit, when I was in like 5th grade everyone was following anime storylines like naruto and dragon ball through toonami and then the internet

kids can follow a simple journey plot like avatar

People are going to give a lot of answers but it mainly comes down to difference in production. Anime produces shows in a set and specific timeframe or goes for a long time with little breaks. Western cartoons air in season blocks and have longer production times. There's also the fact that reruns are more of a thing for the West than in Japan

Maybe kids could when YOU were in 5th grade.

...are- are you in 5th grade, user?

Plenty are still made and will continue to get made. Watch more Western animation, weeb.

If Bryke actually understood eastern philosophy it's doubtful they would have written LOK the way they did, especially the terrible Beginnings episodes.

>implying there aren't any episodic eastern shows
GochiUsa?
Watamote?
Yuru yuri?
I hardly watch animu but even with a few examples I already can tell you you're misguided

>ask yourself why it's constantly the same few 2000s animesque series that are talked about by far the most around here.

Because this is a weeb centric website?

TMS fag.

Please die.

>America lacks the depth of Japan's history, culture, and values entirely, meaning that only writers who deliberately work outside the mold can even do semi-decently, and they will still be brought down by the rest of the crew, working with cliches and stereotypes.
Anime have more interesting and unique ideas but the writing is much worse. Japan scripts can't seem to do without massive exposition and try to go into visual storytelling. Even the shows considered the best like Eva, Utena, Lain, GITS or Yuasa shows still have to have the characters explaining everything at one point.

This is Sup Forums, not Sup Forums.

Well, to be fair anime usually has much more to explain due to the greater complexity of the plots.
I agree that the best Western scripts do dialogue better though, I actually hadn't considered that.

Because the East already owns that market.