Rogue One

Rogue One
>Rebel fleet is withdrawing
>Vader's star Destroyer jumps in right in front of the fleeing rebel ships
>Results in at least one or two of the rebels vessels smashing into the destroyer
>AT LIGHTSPEED
>The destroyer is unscathed, and the only ships that blow up are the rebel ones

The Last Jedi
>Admiral Tumblr suicide rams a cruiser of similar size into a ship at least 30 times the mass of a regular star destroyer
>Results in an explosion so massive that it rips the ship in two, and obliterates most of the regular fleet behind it.

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Dude, just turn your brain off, it's Star Wars.

they didn't fully reach lightspeed yet, you would see this if you actually had a video of it

First Order doesn't have the same resources as the Empire, the building material was lower quality, retard.

Why were the effects in R1 better than those in TFA and TLJ?

that really didnt make sense, what would have made sense, that it literally does nothing, but they had to show "just how amazing the captain tubmlr was"

It only works when a woman is driving the ship

It’s HER TURN you fucking Nazi

>What were the First Order's building codes?

goddamn right those 10min in R1 were starship battle is going on was GOAT. Like the would movie was worth it for those few minutes.

Why didn't they just ram the first Death Star with some random Rebel cruiser? Or like 10 X-wing fighters?

better director and dp

The Star Destroyer had already fully exited hyperspace, note that it had actually slowed back down to normal speed by the time of impact. The scene in TLJ is retarded because hyperspace doesn't just catapult the ship forward faster than normal, it succs the ship into a different dimension.

*Dude, just turn your brain off, it's Disney Star Wars.

Competent director

The only ship that collides with the star destroyer and blows up hadnt gone into lightspeed yet.

Can't you just enjoy a good movie?

>The building material was lower quality
Where are the proofs?
They are shitting out ships many times bigger than the old empires, I doubt they are short on good quality materials.

Rogue One was well directed and felt like almost like a war movie at times. The opening scene with Mendelsohn finding the parents and kids was nicely shot.

Was TLJ too smart for some people? It was pretty clear that Snookie and the Hacker guy worked together to clear out casinos all over the galaxy. That's how Snokers payd for all the ships and Soldiers and his robe made of pure space gold.

Why do soywars fans try to make these things logical? It's a fantasy sci-fi where the target audience is mainly children the only people who scrutinise it this much are autistic manchildren who were kids during the OT and hate everything new because it ruins MUH CHILDHOOD and the characters like Luke who are just MUH CHILDHOOS INSERT. If the OT came out today all these autistic manchildren would find loads of problems with it they only retrospectively defend the OT when their is a flaw and create their own "universe logic" to cover up those problems.

>a good movie
What does this have to do with TLJ or R1?

You don't even have to be particularly smart to figure out this shit is nonsensical, you sub-human aspie. Look at the size and volume of the first Death Star, a 160 kilometer moon-sized battlestation. The average regular Star Destroyer is 1600 meters/1.6 kilometers long, if the Empire wanted to they could've with the same volume of material LITERALLY made tens of millions of Star Destroyers. The second Death Star is several times larger than the first and we are talking about hundreds of millions of the same Star Destroyers.

The First Order is retarded. What they are and what they are capable of doing collapses in the face of everything set up in the lore and narrative before it.

Superior dubs confirm

But the problem isn't that it's unrealistic you fucking idiot. It's not internally consistent.

But user...TLJ was a trash movie.

>good movie
>TLJ

Just don't watch it then and leave Star Wars to Star Wars fans.

TLJ really makes you appreciate how fucking awesome rogue one is. We really need more starwars movies with that dark empire strikes back vibe, were characters we like actually get killed, stakes feel high, and overall the ending is gloomy but with a small spark of hope.

You mean Revenge of the Sith then. Rogue One just looks good because it came after TFA and before TLJ.

>Internally consistent
It doesn't need to be, it's a fucking flick

But user, I am a Star Wars fan. That's how I know TLJ is trash, because I've seen good Star Wars movies.

They didn't go into hyper space when they hit the SD you fucking retard. The ones that did go into hyper space escaped and the ones that weren't able to activate the hyper drive in time got smashed.

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>Just turn ur brain off

It's hated most by the star wars fans because they are so invested in it and had all these theories which they didn't follow

>characters we like actually get killed
>stakes feel high
What movie are you talking about? ESB, right? I don't think any main character gets killed in that movie.

You are literally a brainlet.

9 is just 3x3 user. if 9s kill 3s. they ultimately kill themselves in the process. It's like killing your ancestors. respect your elders, faggot.

Yes that's exactly what you should do for a kids movie. The same way i turn my brain off when watching Boss Baby with my son.

You'll grow out of it soon enough

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nigger like nobody of relevance died in revenge of the sith. In R1, the entire main cast get's fucking dusted. It's an actual proper WAR movie.

R1 dumby

>cause theories were wrong
No mouse, it's because it was a shit movie

>R1
>stakes feel high
But we know how it ends. They get the plans to the Rebellion and the interesting story begins.
>characters we like
The best character is a robot, and he's only good for jokes.

Star Wars isnt deep by anymean but wasnt kiddy strash till prequels.

Not that user.
I was saying characters died

theories being wrong isn't the problem, it's that the movie confirmed literally NOTHING period. Snoke gets no back story at all, rey's parents, who were hyped to be relevant in order to justify her mary sue powers, were NOBODY, and they don't even go into grey jedi shit. the story falls back into generic light vs dark. it's like the movie has ZERO FUCKING IMAGINATION put into it.

>I don't have standards and neither should you

>kids movie
You mean where the main character gets his hand cut off? Or where the kindly old mentor cuts off some guy's arm in a bar, and we see the bloody detached limb? Or where the main character's family gets burned and turned into skeletons?
The "kid's movie" argument has been btfo too many times to count.

No, out of all the fanbases on this board the SW fans are the most autistic and dogmatic of them all look at the state of this board over the last few days and the number of threads.

If it panders to your or not you will always say it's bad since TFA I could tell you guys would never call a movie good(TLJ isn't) but even if ep9 is good you will still shit on it for the most minor of reasons because that's how you guys behave.

Yup, that and vader single handedly running that ship. Was worth all the diversity bullshit. Fuck disney

>star wars post 1983
>good

A fantasy world still has to be consistent. And also, kids notice these stuff, sometimes more than inconsistent character motivations.

I'd like to prove this wrong, but Disney has to make a good Star Wars film first.

DUDE SUBVERSION LMAO

You are the perfect goy. Kudos, user.

It was equivalent to how GotG is a space movie for kids today. And it was poorly received on release and it was obviously marketed as a kids movie when you look at how they sold the merchandise.

>pretending Star Wars isnt a cultural icon
The backlash is what has generated all these threads from a shit movie

>even if ep9 is good you will still shit on it
Too bad all signs point to Ep9 also being shit, so that's a moot point.

EU
>not good
Star Wars is a brand now much larger than movies but yes the mouse has ruined everything

>goy
Implying the whole franchise isn't a marketing tool to mould the future of society.

>MUH CHILDHOOD
>soywars
>MUH CHILDHOOS INSERT
>autistic manchildren
>autistic manchildren again in the next sentence
Jesus, imagine actually going on the internet and talking like this, embarrassing as fuck,

Except the cruiser is the same size as a Star Destroyer. If you watched the movie you’d know that the cruiser holds dozens of those transport ships.

Nice refutation you manchild.

Back to r/movies with you now, move along.

The worst part is it swept away the themes and motifs Disney was building up through Rebels, TFA and R1 that were unique to its own canon. There is nothing left to build upon for a third movie in a trilogy. As much as I despise JJ, I feel bad for him having to be the one to build a new narrative out of this mess.

HURR I NEED TO TALK PROPEELY ON DA INTERNETZZ

Watch the fucking movie. They hadn't reached lightspeed retard.

Uh, sweetie, just turn off your brain it's Disney Presents: Star Wars

5/5: A Triumph

God forbid movie makes sense.

Which is why they can make 20x larger death stars and their ships were said to be better in visual guides and novels.

You are literally the soy boy here
>just turn your brain off

this the first order are just a small group

yeah it's fucking retarded but so is the asteroid hitting the destroyer in Empire. You'd think a ship that large would have a way to stop actual objects from damaging it but nope lmao

>Windu
>Grievous
>Dooku
>Padme
vs
>literal whos

they can make them bigger BECAUSE the materials are cheaper, brainlet

>they built an ARTIFICIAL PLANET despite being vastly smaller than the Empire which controlled 99% of the entire galaxy at their height who could only build a 900km second Death Star
>The First Order is literally a billion times smaller yet builds a fucking planet a hundred times larger
Retard.

>they built the planet
What's it like being this retarded?

What's it like being a Nucuck brainlet?

R1 is the best so far just for sake of sacrifice and making ANH that much cooler because of how many people get slaughtered just to deliver the death star plans. Its a silver lining movie about the original movie's silver lining presented in a romantic way that's consistent.

TFA had about the same plotpoints of ANH
>enter villain with a cape and a helmet
>a couple runaways(poe/finn)
>young nobody(Luke/Rey) on worthless planet(tatooine/Jakku) helps out character(s) on the run(droids/finn)
>bad guys destroy shit
>meet wise old man (Han/Obiwan)
>Infiltrate giant superweapon(starkiller/Deathstar)
>old man killed by the villain
>Destroy superweapon
>villain manages to escape
>Celebration

TLJ's story was disjointed and full of plotpoints that didn't have any impactful meaning
>Rey finds luke
>luke tells her to fuck off
>the Resistance is being tracked after escaping Space Nazis
>we gotta infiltrate the giant ship and stop them from chasing us really slowly
>Kylo decides not to kill his mother
>leia's got force powers and saves herself from space vacuum
>good and evil don't exist
>luke throws his hands up
>fine I'll teach you why I hate everything I fought for and so should you
>Luke lied
>Tumblr captian takes control of resistance ship
>Finn learns from smart prison guy about why economics is evil
>luke lied
>rey runs off to hug kylo
>luke's gonna burn his shit and yoda helps
>Finn is betrayed by economic opportunist man
>Tumblr crashes the ship into the capital ship
>Kylo reveals that he and rey have no relation at all and that she's just a random force wielding nobody after killing the Emperor
>let's redo hoth
>oh fuck luke showed up kill him!
>Oh he wasn't really here
>luke dies anyway
>the entire resistance fits in the falcon and escapes

So
R1>TFA>TLJ

it's because the director and dop and the vfx team knew the shit they are doing + miniatyres. It's actually awesome how they succeeded when showing any object in front of you, so you get the point of view like showing the massive objects from peoples perspective.

i unironically agree with this

Empire had the full weight of the galaxies industrial complex behind it

First Order is more of a modern startup, while the resistance is still using older sturdier ships

a rusty 52 studabker would slice right through a 2017 honda civic

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A modern start up that has enough resources to build a planet sized super weapon larger and more powerful than the death star that also eats stars. They must have some amazing VCs

I love how you dumb troglodytes avoid someone pointing out the real fact of the matter because you can't shitpost if you acknowledge it.

This is why they were able to build a Planet Killer.
Because they are not as good as the empire in building stuff.
I see, it makes sense.

starkiller was built INTO a planet, probably cheaper than a deathstar desu

as far as blowing up shit across hyperspace lets all agree to even forget that happened?

I already called you a brainlet, you can't call me one back!

If you watched the movie you'd know that the only ships that hit Vaders cruiser were not going lightspeed

EU was a mixed bag to be honest. Sure the Thrawn Trilogy was good, but there was a ton of pure shit like Kevin J. Anderson's books, or even the New Jedi Order which was very controversial.

Vader's Devastator was made of Quadanium with diagonal bracing by the renowned builders at Kuat Drive Yards. Snoke's Dreadnought was built by niggers from Finn's home planet out of scrap metal stolen from old speeders and T-16s. You get what you pay for.

You can't call me a brainlet, brainlet!

Nah, it's only one ship, and you can clearly see it fails to jump into hyperspace in time despite its exhaust lighting up. There is a y-wing in the same position, but it manages to cancel the jump and maneuver out of the way.