So what was the point of these things? They didn't take out the battering ram cannon or a single AT-AT...

So what was the point of these things? They didn't take out the battering ram cannon or a single AT-AT. It just seems like a pointless attempt to recreate the Battle of Hoth.

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well finn was gonna save the day in one, but noooooo

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The point was to rip off the Fury Road scene with the flares, red and yellow just look good against a desert background.

I thought they were going to use the dust clouds to obscure the Order's vision and let the Resistance fighters escape or sneak closer for an attack or something.

All this did was get a lot more people killed.

Why do people keep comparing it to Hoth? The two were nothing alike past both featuring At-At's

Fucking brainlet

Um, it wasn't the same as the battle of Hoth sweetie. It was salt, not snow :)

>I literally thought they were tossing down red material or something to light some super fuse that would go all the way to the AT-ATs
>it was just to have a cool effect because the ground was salt red

Another toy for the shelves at Walmart. Just watch, Disney is going to cycle through new characters and tech faster than the millennium falcon can complete the Kessel Run. Star Wars has always been a merchandizers wet dream.

You want proof?... Why was C3PO's arm red in TFA? Did they ever answer that in canon? No? That's because the answer was so they could have different C3PO action figures for TFA and TLJ.
>tfw uncle George's midnight wallet fondling is now a pleasant memory compared to cousin Mickey's violent raping

>The ski speeder used a stabilizer strut to keep balance when moving across alien terrain
What the fuck?

They answered it "in canon".
His robot friend sacrificed his life to save 3po, so he decided to wear his arm as a way of remembering his fallen comrade.
;^) then I guess he forgot after showing Han.

C3PO's arm was red because JJ wanted to make a Metal Gear reference.
It's explained in a comic where he got it from.

>C3PO
>action figure

For those kids who want some of that protocol droid excitement

..what was the point of the whole last stand? The entire fleet was destroyed and only like a dozen people were left. Luke sacrificed himself to save a bunch of losers who already lost. 12 people are nothing against an entire galaxy. Shit's done.

Everything in this movie was a delay for Episode 9.

The whole movie was pointless aesthetics - muh black and red, muh wide shots

>make flimsy vehicle
>design flimsy toy
bravo, Disney

Yeah, you didn't get it. The point was sometimes it is smarter not to fight and lose everything in the process. Sometimes it is smarter to save the ones you love and are trying to protect. This theme is highlighted in Poe's arc and in Finn/Rose's and in Leia's, Luke's and Rey's. Survive to fight another day. Accept failure from time to time. It is the best teacher after all, as Yoda said.

I found it refreshing. Earlier in the saga there would have been some kind of SUCCESS for the rebels in undertaking a suicide mission like this. Here there is realization that it isn't realistic and not worth it. It's a bold thing for this franchise. Nobody truly wins and even Luke only buys time for the Resistance to escape and survive.

How did he instantly teleport back to the rebel base and where did the trench full of rebel soldiers go?

>Muh toy ad

Starwars was always a cashgrab

Is this unironic?
Lest we forget the actual fuckin iron shot in TLJ

the only failures I saw in this film were Iran Johnston

Unless you're a stronk womyn with purple hair, then your sacrifice effortlessly destroys 40 star destroyers

The droids are my nieces favourite characters. They love getting C3PO and R2D2 merch as presents.

Literally my favorite figure as a kid

They point was no matter how desperate their situation, they still had to try, rather than lay down and surrender.

I feel like this movie went over most of your heads.

The rebels went through a hatch in the trench that led back inside. You see it happen when the laser fires.
No explanation on how Finn was able to get Rose all the way back without being fired on though.

There was a disgustingly bad greenscreen shot done in reshoots of Poe sliding into a trench and all of the soldiers going into tunnels from the trench.

I agree. Truly inspiring. Sometimes when you kill your enemies, they win. The Resistance got woke and figured it out. They won.

>missing the point
the point of the salt was that everyone left footprints, except for Luke, because he wasnt really there, if you watch it again pay attention lots of shots of people leaving the red footprints, except for Luke

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A story for another time perhaps.

they were both white ( they shoehorned in the salt mention to make sure we knew it wasn't snowy in a shallow attempt to differentiate it from Hoth
) planets where the rebels were doing a last stand defense against empire forces

to kick up dust for kino posters and shit

Stop thinking user, you need to be a brainless retard to properly enjoy TLJ

Deathpod race: a long time ago

In battlefront 2, the drag creates a cloud of dirt that creates cover for the soldiers on the ground so you don't get blown away instantly. I was surprised this wasn't in the movie.

the black guy wins

Because it looks really nice. Perfect contrast. The red throne room curtains and guard armor looked great too.

They had entirely different outcomes, entire different set ups, entirely different goals. Nothing about them is the same except rebels and the empire fight on a white planet.

Laughed but robots are rad. Use your imagination not copy the movies

The point was... to have Red trails kick up underneath the salt so you'd see tracks, and it would give CG artists something do do.

Thats all I think it was.

>white planet with secret rebel base
>at ats coming at rebel base to destroy it and rebels
>rebels in trenches
>speeders headed out to stop at ats from getting to base
>big turrets shooting at at ats
>Luke on the ground with a lightsaber while at ats approach
>rebel base destroyed but escape
Quick which movie did I just describe?

The scene is a contrast to the first battle. Poe calls off the attack instead of letting everyone die. Given the choice again, he chose to fight another day. And Finn, who chose to run after the first battle, tries to do something that probably wouldn't have done much to the cannon.

Does the red dust even make sense?

The salt is on the top. It would be leaving white clouds, or at best, whitish pink clouds.

They are designing these movies with cool factor first and sense second.

Also those fighter things are retarded. And why even have a taildragging part? Except so the writers can stipulate they're leaving red clouds?

It's all so tiresome.

She went hyperspeed into a fleet. No one has done that in Star Wars.

Molymeme says this scene represents whiteness being bled out by multiple tiny cuts

>Entire Galaxy
More like a slightly larger squadron of baddies
Compared to what we saw in Clone Wars and OT the entire war looks like a small skirmish
The rest of the Galaxy we have seen gives zero fucks beyond the one system that is gone

Why didn't the rebels that had the base just use T-47's

Because that's not what happened in the movie.

I don't know but when the things were shooting Luke I cracked up because it looked like he was exploding very bloody like

to sell toys

Honestly this is my biggest problem, the first order was supposed to be the remnants of the empire trying to take back control over the galaxy (they do manage to destroy the new republic's fleet in the last movie) but now what's left is a not that big of an army trying to chase down and murder 20-30 rebels.
I can't imagine rich bastards or other planet governments not having their own armies strong enough to take the FO.

hahaha holy shit did they really say its salt? oh man I'm so glad I didnt see this movie.

its worse. for no fucking reason a dude EATS the salt and spits it out going "yuck, salty"

>guy in trench
>scoops up white stuff
>looks at camera
>"It's salt."

Lol. I was wondering what the fucking point was. 100% retarded.

because red

I was wondering why he would do that.
>Some army chucklefuck is about to kill some terrorists.
>Picks up sand and eats it
>Tastes like sand
>Everyone nods in agreement
I mean why

Why has no one done this before, I mean shit why even build a death star just make a big ship or various smaller ships and go hyperdrive into them.

They literally advance in formation, kill nothing and then Poe tells everyone to retreat. What the fuck was the point of that.

To pad out the run time. If you think about it nothing really happend.

B-but they had to survive because muh spark of hope

Never mind that kids on other planets already were becoming rebels in their hearts, we need these eleven insignificant people to live because fuck you, it was her turn, she even floated through space for you ungrateful little shits

someone with webm skills should change it to the guy eating shit with the movie on it

what was the point of going to casino planet to get the code breaker? literally nothing happend in that arc and nobody died, they could have cut that out and shorten the movie 30-40mins, and it would have been a better a movie actually.

It serves as a scene to show character progression for Poe and Finn in the choices they make during the battle. From a visual perspective it's also pretty neat and shows how shitty a state the rebellion is in.

I watched this movie again in shock... and I noticed they don't fire one shot in this scene. 13 of whatever the fuck junker ships those are, they line up for this "epic" battle scene and they dont fire one shot.

Finn tries to do the only useful thing in the entire scene and wasn't even allowed to do that.

>movie started 2 PM
>bored out of mind while watching it, a first for a SW movie, cause even TFA, which was shit, didn't bore me to death
>guy 4 rows ahead of me pulls up his phone to check the time
>3:15PM
>still have 1 hour and 15 minutes to go

It was hell

I didn't enjoy the whole casino bit that much either, mostly because it wasn't very well written. It does have purpose though, mainly for Poe, Finn, and Rose to fail their plan, but also to incite the rebellion by being nice to random force-using kids apparently.

>poor abused animals and kid slaves...
>I know! Let's free the animals!

Who wrote the script?

do you really think they will expand on that planet in the next movie? i very much doubt!

DUDE WHITE BLACK AND RED

LMAO NAHZEE DID YOU GET IT

The red stuff was also salt. Salt can be pink and red, too. Which means that at one point, the Falcon was flying through an entire cave system of salt.

>pointless attempt to recreate the Battle of Hoth.
there's your answer but you already knew that I'm sure

>all that empty space
>all that plain red background
>guards blending in
>everything looks cheap as fuck

rian is a fucking hack

podracing existed centuries before this time so why the fuck wouldnt they use those sandspeeders or podracers? this shit looks mechanically clunky and far less practical.

fucking merchandising bullshit

>For those kids who want some of that protocol droid excitement

R2D2 is literally one of their biggest sellers and on everything from backpacks to action figures to patches and clothing..

He does nothing of note and doesn't even speak.

hes a star wars icon though whos played a part of all 6 canon movies. fuck disneys. anyone sees r2 and they immediately know who it is

>have a giant star destroyer than can blow that shitty base up from orbit
>lets drag a giant cannon across the desert to bust the base door but instead of landing it close by we make sure to do it far away so we have to travel for an hour across the desert

Because junked up hobo ships that need "stabilizers" to operate are much better at taking on AT-ATs than the tried and proven tow-cable equipped T-47s.
DUH!

Rian knows his audience.

>what's that cannon, sir?
>a miniature Death Star

Man, they reslly have no original ideas in these movies

got me thinking as well why the people who steer the freighter ships in the scenes where they evacuate cause no fuel dont allahu akbar into the main ship like that and just drift off getting shot down

>getting shot down
That's the reason. It only worked because the FO were busy shooting the transport ships and completely ignored the big one until it was too late.

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in starwars battlefront 2 when you play this map it is actually very useful to have red dust obscure the battlefield so you dont get sniped running across the surface to get to the trenches

Seriously, wtf was he thinking? It looks so amateurish and half assed.

Yeah, cause everyone lives near and/or immediately recognizes a salt flat.

Why did the FO need the AT-ATs to assault the base when they could have just taken out the base by going /lightspeedmissile with a ship that offloaded the AT-ATs?

Except it happened in rogue one and the ship just crashed into a star destroyer and it was fine

because those are snowspeeders and it wasn't hoth

The point of the movie was that if you kill your enemies they win.

The writers just conveniently forgot that the movies mostly centered around destroying planet sized megastructures with millions of people working on it.

they also forgot that they gave admiral tumblr a heroic badass death and made sure that was the highpoint of the movie

Incorrect. When ANH hit the theaters, the only merchandise in existence was pic-related - a cardboard backdrop of the stand-out characters.

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George keeping the merchandising rights in exchange for a substantial cut in salary is now spun as him being a savvy businessman. The truth is infinitely less cynical. George had something Disney did not then have and still does not have to this day:

Faith in his vision.

Today, the merchandising comes before the movie, before the plot, before the message, because the only message is consumption. Resist.

They could've skipped the pointless casino planet entirely and still had Finn & Rose fail in their attempt to jam the tracking device. Just added bloat to the movie and ruined the pacing.

Did they at least fix the exhaust port issue?

Was the red stuff salt or the white stuff salt? I thought it was the white stuff because salt is white but my friend thought it was the red stuff. But why would salt fall from the sky?

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>George keeping the merchandising rights in exchange for a substantial cut in salary is now spun as him being a savvy businessman.
>The truth is infinitely less cynical. >George had...
>Faith in his vision
You're so full of shit. There was money on the table and George knew he was making a children's movie about spaceships and robots. This maturing of what is a children's movie is asinine. Star Wars isn't about deep themes and the premise isn't adult targeted or deep. It's a space adventure story, nothing more.

He wanted to make money of the toys and got lucky that it was popular with kids and manchildren. He was a nerd at heart who like other nerds, obssessed with toys and gadgets. That's why those stupid Funko and nerd things are so popular.