I know this might be old news for you guys, but it's new to me, and it infuriated me. DC claims they canceled the story for "political reasons," but really, they were just scared of getting the SJW's riled up by making a story about the trinity protecting free speech.
It would've been so nice to see someone, for once, have the balls to have a political message that's not wholly liberal.
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>and it infuriated me
Nobody cares
Fucking Hillary supporters
Fuck it, we do not need more political stories that only exist to either criticize or praise whatever the American govt is doing atm.
>Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman protecting a bigoted hate speaker
Ugh.
Quit being such a fag
This type of story has a place at DC. It could make an interesting story if it was Green Arrow having to protect him but the whole Trinity? That's just overkill and comes across like a bad PSA
>bigoted hate speaker
Try harder.
>Green Arrow
>protecting a Milo
Nah.
Good.
There are very few comic book writers who could handle a story like this even if we weren't currently living through a shit political climate. Manapul's a great artist, but he's a mediocre writer.
Also: free speech means you can criticise the government without fear of being imprisoned for it. It does not mean you can spout out whatever hateful crap you like without repercussion. You say something bigoted and get punched in the face for it, then you fucking deserved it. Free speech is not a shield to protect you from people being offended by your bigoted shittery.
If he saw a bunch of antifa about to kill the guy he would protect him. That's what could make it interesting
This is a world class idea.
It would be even better if GA was protecting him simply because he supports free speech, even if he disagrees with the speaker.
Who decides what's bigotry and what isn't?
I agree that spewing bigoted shit definitely doesn't mean you're immune from criticism, but assaulting someone is also illegal.
If you want to appear you have the higher ground, punching someone in the face doesn't really help. I'm a liberal, but I don't feel comfortable with encouraging people to punch others for what they say.
Children shouldn't be on the internet.
>GA throws a net arrow
>the Milo clone ends up hanging on by the net, away from the protestors
>"No need to thank me, Milo! I do this for free speech!"
Not much of an answer
Not him, but if you go to a group of black people and call them Niggers, you can't call free speech and expect them not take any action against you at all. That's more or less what he means.
In this context, sure DC is able to say whatever they want in their comics, but ofc free speech won't protect them from any negative reception from readers.
>GA throws a net arrow
>Throws
The net arrow would get caught up in the bow string, silly.
It is not the bow, user. It's the arrow.
...
I thought his trick arrows had capsules that exploded and released what ever shit was inside?
If he's just going to throw stuff he may as well be Green Javelin
>If he's just going to throw stuff he may as well be Green Javelin
I need a drawfag!
The law should and does protect you from getting brained with a bike lock.
"Fighting words" are a thing of the past. Freedom of speech however is not.
>keep politics out of muh comics
>unless it fits my agenda
Yeah and punching people is totes legal am I right? Thankfully you belong to a dying kind. Changes are coming, this world has been spiralling into madness long enough.
Yeah well you have to be a real retard to go to a group of black people and call them niggers. If he gets assaulted the law protects him though, but you'd have to be a complete moron with no self preservation instinct to do it.
I was talking more about the "guy gives an interview, gets randomly assaulted by a masked guy" a la Richard Spencer. Is Spencer a piece of shit? Sure, but suddenly punching him in the face when he doesn't attack someone directly in that moment (the "go to a bunch of black guys and call them niggers" situation) is pretty stupid. Encouraging people to punch others for what they say is not something you should do, mostly because it's a slippery slope. Alright, Richard Spencer is a white supremacist and open about it. However, the left is very liberal with the word "nazi" lately, so much that the word has lost its meaning. Did you vote for Trump? You're a nazi. Do you like the latest Captain America comic? You're a nazi. This shit is getting out of hand and soon enough you're getting punched in the face for the most inconsequential shit. I really, really don't like how authoritarian the left has become in the last couple of years and it frustrates me because socially and on most economical issues I'm on that side.
OP here, and I can't speak for everyone, but I don't mind politics in comics, as long as it's not overbearing or one-sided.
I mean that the Arrowfamily know how to shoot an arrow without a bow.
Tale as old as time.
Recently, they are now saying drinking milk and liking a certain type of face cream makes you a Nazi.
god you people are no different from edgy would-be school shooters
>liking a certain type of face cream
I always said you Nazis are so gay.
Those kids are good Americans! They have the right to bear and use arms, you commie!
freedom of speech IS a liberal value. some people on both the left and right seem to forget that
>It does not mean you can spout out whatever hateful crap you like
YES IT DOES
>without repercussion
no, those repercussions are handled socially, not through the courts. I can go up to a person and call him a nigger, you can't do anything within the law about it. But he can go and get me banned from certain social groups and spread the idea that I am a racist fuckwad.
Yeah, like I said the word lost all its meaning. I don't know what needs to be done, but these Tea Party-tier "liberals" that infected the left are really doing no good and are quite dangerous to the movement in my opinion.
I'm pretty secure in my political opinions so these morons aren't making me switch sides and do a complete 180 on my beliefs. However there are a lot of left leaning or centrist people that vote right wing people now because of the overly sensitive authoritarian liberals that suck the joy out of everything and screech like retards every time someone does something "problematic" (most of the time it's dumb shit like "microagressions" or genuine mistakes not done out of malice). They don't even realize how much harm they're doing to the left and driving people away by being like this.
>I can go up to a person and call him a nigger
OK, go on and do it. Let's see what happens.
That's because plenty of people on the left and right are not liberals.
>Cletus learns to copypasta
Fucking Conservatives man.
>believing in law and order makes you an edgy school shooter
Silencing those who would disagree with you by using extreme force strikes me as more edgy. Perhaps even fascist.
>fascist
Don't you have some city to Occupy, kid?
Nice rebuttal, "user".
He's right. Radical liberals are polarizing some people to the right. People are getting fed up with all this violence and unbridled hatred. The sheer hypocrisy being displayed by so-called "anti-fascists" is on full display.
Actually OP that article is old and was later determined to be wrong or false conclusion. They didn't cancel it just moved the story to a different issue. The solicit for that issue was announced on the wrong and when they corrected it the article assumed they cancelled the issue. Later when the solicit time of announcement for the correct issue came the solicit was back.
Psh, nothin personel, but I'd rather spend my time attacking anybody who looks like they're to the right of Kernal Sanders.
He just explained what would happen, you moron. And he's right. You have the right to shun him and ban him from social groups, NOT answer with physical force. That kind of thinking lead to something like the May 13th incident in Malaysia, where every race was trying to kill each other.
I hav a strong feeling that DC wouldn't have held the same standard if the comic was shilling social justice
The story was legitimately canceled. They also canceled an "aliens are refugees too, open the borders" arc in Hitch's Justice League.
>You say something bigoted and get punched in the face for it, then you fucking deserved it. Free speech is not a shield to protect you from people being offended by your bigoted shittery.
But that doesn't mean who punched you had the right to punch you and has to be prosecuted for assault. The more apt comparison is being a little shit in a private space and complain about muh free speach as you are being escorted out.
>We don't like what you're saying, so we're going to riot in the street, start fires, and randomly assault people on the streets.
And getting offended does not give you free reign to assault someone.
It would be more in-character if it was Ollie stood there for half the comic bitching to Hal Jordan about how he doesn't want to and why he doesn't like the guy, and then Hal convinced him to do it anyway.
Yes it is.
If it wasn't, then there would be no lgbt because the Christians would have been able to beat them into the closet because of the bigoted stuff the lbgt community says about Christians.
All speech is bigoted hate speech to someone. That's why we have free speech, and it is speech without consequences.
>I don't have an answer that doesn't btfo myself so insult!
Lel try harder tumblr.
Go attack somebody with a bike lock without the mask this time and see how that works out you absolute dumbass.
>DC claims they canceled the story for "political reasons," but really, they were just scared of getting the SJW's riled up by making a story about the trinity protecting free speech.
Good. Seeing how riled up Marvelfags are with SE having such a political slant, I'm fine with them trashing the original story in favor of something else. We also have no clue whether or not it even came together well enough as a story to print, since Manapul isn't exactly a top tier writer.
I also seriously doubt it was entirely due to political fatigue since DC's shown they're not afraid of it. Green Arrow's entire Rebirth run has political connotations. He's fighting big business, saving the little guy and just wrapped up a run where he's trying to stop a pipeline being built through Native American land. And that's entirely fine for Ollie.
>Green Arrow's entire Rebirth run
Try every GA run ever.
They canceled Hitch's pro-open borders story so it does seem to be a "keep this stuff where it belongs" policy.
You don't know how this works do you?
>Try every GA run ever.
I was focusing more on recent issues due to the current political climate. This belief that DC of all people would shy away from a political statement is absurd.
>They canceled Hitch's pro-open borders story so it does seem to be a "keep this stuff where it belongs" policy.
Eh, Hitch is the same boat as Manapul in not being the best storyteller. His Justice League is by and large considered to be the weakest of the Rebirth books. I don't even want to think of what it would look like if he tried to make a statement but it came out really awkwardly. And again, it's not like DC is afraid of posting politically oriented material in their biggest titles. Hell, they put out a Black Lives Matter and police brutality issue of Batman not too long ago that was roundly praised.
Not to mention The Fintstone is a very political book. Hell, the entire book is political satire (same with Prez 2 years ago).
I think the point he was making is that if you read Green Arrow you expect political issues being brought up, it's the point of his character
Uuuh punching is assault.
Punching people over mean words is... Also assault.
Still illegal.
That's like saying women who go to poor neighborhoods at night aren't legally protected from Rape.
If the rapists are found they will be prosecuted. Because it's a crime, ya get that?
Since when has this place been populated with mongs like you?
Batman deals with crooked cops all the time, so that's not out of the ordinary.
If he punches you, he loses the moral high ground and starts acting with the morality of a teenager.
You do understand adults aren't suppised to attack others over anything right?
Because this world ran out of real men long ago.
Copypasta?
Actually no, it was just another Anti-Trump piece from Manapul. Read the summary, it was utter shit and pandered shamelesly to the left.
I love Mapanul but god he can be a cuck sometimes.
DC did the right thing by removing that shit.
>Your opinion offends me, I declare it bigoted, we must cancel free speech or at least redefine it to suit my needs
You have a really terrible understanding of whats the meaning behind free speech. And yes, it includes "bigoted shjittery" candy ass
An egotistical pussy who got laughed out of a 'Nam USO show and went on to kill himself and hundreds of others with cancer via fallout dust?
yeah, what a hunk of a man.
not that user, but you don't have any moral high ground when you just walk up to someone and just start shouting racist epithets in his face.
>Implying Christians didn't constanly attack homos
Fuck off underage. Go read up on Free Speech before you spout this garbage.
When is the last time mainline DC had a political issue?
The GA Arsenal arc on the Indian Reservation?
>>I was talking more about the "guy gives an interview, gets randomly assaulted by a masked guy"
There was also that author who went to speak at a college, and a whole group of students hounded him and a professor, who ended up getting injured in the process. Middlebury or whatever.
meh, DC doesn't want politics period. You can find winsome liberalism in Young Animals and shit titles like batgirl and Superwoman. The big guns, Batman Wonder Woman and Superman, are a political as long as Geoff Johns has a say.
>It would be even better if GA was protecting him simply because he supports free speech, even if he disagrees with the speaker.
But that's white supremacy!
The soul of a Republic like America is built upon the free and open exchange of ideas. Further, when violence is used to coerce a speaker, that is the essence of unlawfulness.
No, thats battery. And if you try that with me faggot, I'll punch back.
It kinda is. If you just let someone spout kill all non whites and dont do anything because "free speech" ypu are condoning it
>You say something bigoted and get punched in the face for it, then you fucking deserved it.
This is bait.
If it isn't I hope you kill yourself in front of your family one day.
No, you're not. Free speech means everyone gets to speak, even assholes.
>If you just let someone spout kill all non whites
You do know there are degrees to this sort of thing, and that not every non-left opinion on race is "KILL ALL NON-WHITES RACE WAR NOW", right?
You could speak louder inster of doing nothing because that man has a right to say gas all non whites. If you dont do anything you support their ideas
>Free speech means everyone gets to speak, even assholes.
'Free Speech does not entitle you to shout, "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.'
>people replied to this
YOURE ALL SO STUPID HOLY SHIT
FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES PLEASE
Not according to Sup Forums and Sup Forums
Not true. You protect him from harm because of principles, but you'll never really agree with him. And that's how it should be. Like the jewish lawyers who defended nazis in court because if they didn't, they'd be throwing away their own freedom as well.
Yes. Speak louder, NOT punch his mouth for saying things you don't agree with. And if they listen to him more than you, half the fault is theirs but the other fault lies in yourself. If you don't pratice self reflection, you will never win.
Actually check again, yes it does.
COULD but not everyone has to speak out about everything. This world is already filled with a bunch of people shouting their opinions and no one listening cause no one is actually speaking to each other, they are just shouting to make themselves feel good about shouting
>Liberals don't beleive in property rights
>Liberals don't beleive in gun rights
>Liberals don't beleive in the first amendment
At this point, woild save a lot of time by moving to North Korea.
They probably were shit and the Editors saw that and they put a stop to it
Nope it just entitles you to speak your mind without fear ir repercussion from rhe Government.
It doesn't protect you from saying it in a private owned area where the owners don't want to hear you and it doesn't protect you when you're inciting others to attack someone either.
Yeah people have the right to association but in all of these incidents the people have rented the area to hold events and speak their piece. However people who disagree come in and break shit and try to shut their events down. You can't say "I find their message disagreeable so I have the right to attack" there are laws for assault
>niggers are greenlit for murder with a word
>these people belong in modern society
Pick one
I think you mean Muslims.
Is free speech political? Holy fuck, are your basic rights as a man now a sore spot that can't be discussed?
It's not Drumpf's wall or Killary's emails, it's a protected right
Yeah it would have been a really interesting Green Arrow story, he'd be so fucking conflicted the whole time.
It sounds pretty hamfisted with the trinity though.
>admitting niggers are the only race with no control
The left, everyone