I'm not around here too often but I was wondering what Sup Forums's thoughts were on pic related, the killing of a sacred deer?
initially I didn't know who the director was and I was thinking "oh great let's just to the same as The Lobster did I guess" and then found that it's of course the same guy....which didn't make it any better movie made up for that later on though
I had very high expectations for it and it exceeded all of them. But if I watched it again I probably won't like it as much. I think Nicole Kidman was the only one who didn't quite "get" the role.
Brandon Butler
beg your pardon user? is this board only for daily posters or what?
>Nicole Kidman was the only one who didn't quite "get" the role I know what you mean, but perhaps the point of that was to give the people who couldn't handle it a more relatable character imo she's more than capable of doing this kinds of roles so I think it was intentional that it turned out like this
Cameron Sanders
ah shit I didn't realize it was star wars season I'll come back in a few weeks I guess
Caleb Russell
I don't know, I think she had similar troubles with her character in Eyes Wide Shut. She's so likeable and so beautiful, so it must be very hard for her to do characters that are so reprehensible and off-beat.
Cameron Martin
>She's so likeable and so beautiful this is a big issue I have with cinema these days, although I feel like non-american/lower budget movies do it better, and what I mean is: everyone is fucking attractive everyone and in this one I understand, they're all rich and pretty bla bla, fits the narrative, but on average it's just hard to buy into it
she was good in dogville tho; but I can't really recall her in other roles so I guess that says something
on the other hand, the evil kid in this movie was quite spot on; their two other kids, especially the daughter, were kinda baity but I guess he needs to put in as much edgyness as possible into these movies
Nathan Martin
Dogville is great and it's mainly due to Nicole Kidman really selling the tragedy that is Grace. It is absolutely her finest performance. She did an impressive turn this year in the HBO miniseries Big Little Lies as a battered wife (though I think anyone could probably make a sympathetic role like that look good). I loved Martin and the daughter character. Their IRL age difference makes the whole thing seem all the more sinister.
Alexander Brown
You need to watch To Die For. Kidman is incredibly talented but became box office poison sometime after divorcing Cruise.
Dylan Lopez
Haven't seen it, too busy masturbating over the polaroid-cut poster of it.
William Green
Thanks for the recc I should really watch this as you're not the first person to mention it to me.
Angel Wood
What are you talking about? Sounds like you just live in a hell hole full of ugly people. No one was overly attractive at all and compared to the real life families like that they were normal as fuck in appearance. Even their house wasn't that extravagant despite the outer appearance. Get out of your third world country.
Eli Watson
well you know what they say: A Cincinnati 10 is a New York 6.
Christian Campbell
exactly and that's kind of why I thought it was a bit...easy? like it just felt so easy to have an underage daughter character in there just to add to the tension, I dunno, maybe I've been on this website too long but I saw it coming from a mile away and for convenience let's use someone super cute instead of a more banal/chubby girl let's say y'know?
I've been stuck inside for 4 days with a cold and could use any movie recommendations so thx
I kinda dislike the different fonts in the title, it's like the logo of a faux-old-time-y barber shoppe, everything else about it is great
Sebastian Brooks
it wouldn't be the first time my insecurities got the better of me, so you might be 100% correct it's not like I was saying my pov is some kind of absolute fact, just how I see/feel about things >Get out of your third world country funny thing is I did and ended up in a place where everyone is fucking attractive desu
Dominic Gonzalez
Disturbing, but pretty funny too.
Ayden Torres
I liked that scene a lot.
James James
S P A G H E T T I
Mason Ross
it's awful because my grandparents literally told me when I was kid that I had some unique way of eating pasta (I've always loved pasta) and I'd learned that from cartoons and of course later I found out that is _the_ way to eat pasta and I was just so confused and all my beliefs about older people knowing everything were forever shattered growing up is tough yo
what are your opinions on the flat style of their dialogue? in hopes of it not being just a gimmick, I was thinking it's how the doctor dude sees the world, disconnected emotionally from everything, because of his job surgeons are often seen as cold, calculated, sometimes even heartless (hah!) people
Asher Sanders
>>what are your opinions on the flat style of their dialogue? That's just Lanthimos' style.
Lucas Wilson
>what are your opinions on the flat style of their dialogue? It's Lanthimos' gimmick like other user said, but at the risk of sounding like a dunderhead: Our world has become increasingly absurd and detached simultaneously, and maybe his movies are supposed to be a reflection of that.
Isaac Ramirez
then if he does it again in whatever he makes next I'll just be annoyed "yea let's just make them feel awkward for no reason" woo art! it's bordering on forced meme levels
David Cooper
does it again? He's done it 4 times already (maybe he did it for Kinetta I didn't see it). Alps is probably my favorite, or Deer. One of the two.
Christian King
WHERE'S THE MONEY LEBOWSKI I WANT THAT MONEY LEBOWSKI MARTIN SAYS YOU'RE GOOD FOR IT EAT THE FUCKING DONUT SHITHEEEAAAD
Ian Sullivan
b-but 4 is enough right? I've only seen dogtooth and the lobster by him, so I guess I'll also see Alps dogtooth was...well that was quite some time ago so might have to rewatch loved the lobster tho
also >imagine how many doctors went back home after the movie and asked this of their wives
Cameron Anderson
>slow vaporwave playing in the background
Charles Wilson
It's supposed to be a reflection of his autism and Greek Weird Wave being autistic in general.
Benjamin Sanchez
well he is definitely autistic. didn't know he was part of some wave of filmmakers though.
Austin Brooks
Watch Attenberg and Miss Violence There is something fundamentally wrong with Greeks, like Finns
Grayson Smith
The lobster was trash, sacred deer is pure kinoh
Elijah Sullivan
>Our world has become increasingly absurd and detached simultaneously could argue about absurd but the detached part I'm really not buying it's been literally proven that on average we interact way more with our kids than we used to oh that he wants to still make the point that we still might be too detached or cold with each other, according to his Mediterranean levels of socializing (which are just insane), sure
good argument user!
Jacob Howard
I'm not arguing
Jonathan Wood
The Lobster was kino though. Does that mean I should watch this one?
Luke Bennett
deer are sexy
Jackson Garcia
I beg your pardon, I didn't promise you a rose garden
Jordan Cooper
why was the only American actor in the movie a fat oaf?
Carson Sullivan
...
Dylan Campbell
>the only American actor in the movie I'm not even gonna start idem
that's cool because I never got one =(
Noah Wilson
>n*gger Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks.
Isaiah Hall
and for the record, I don't even think I want to know what lens he used for some of the inside shots like holy shit I didn't know shots could get this wide lemme just fit this ENTIRE fucking room into your frame real quick we get how alone and distant everyone is from eachother but ya don't have to hammer it into our skulls like this bro just chillax
Angel Morris
but he is is he not? Colin Farrell: Irish Nicole Kidman: Australian Raffey Cassidy: English Barry Keoghan: Irish Bill Camp: American
Isaiah Sanchez
35 mm
Sebastian Bell
literally turn your brain off kind of movie as bad as capeshit
Eli Brown
I bet you were upset they didn't explain why Martin had powers.
Kayden Jones
I liked it very much but I can see why people disliked it (or other works from Yorgos for that matter). He purposely makes characters very hard to like or connect with, both in their personalities (almost all the characters on his movies are either petty assholes or completely fucking unbearable) and the way actors play them, what with their robotic, methodical and almost annoying way of delivering their lines. He also makes simple plots slightly convoluted, which I personally consider a plus (I watched Sacred Deer with a date and by the end she didn't know what the fuck happened despite the movie giving all the plot pieces necessary to figure it out). One of my faves of the year.
If you were ok with the way characters and plot developed with The Lobster then you'll be very comfortable watching this.
James Green
and why the dialogues were so bad and unispered
Angel Turner
but then what do other directors shoot at inside? I'm only a hobbyist in photography and 35mm (equiv) doesn't fit nearly as much into the camera so how does that work differently? we should call in /p/ but they'll just start sperging out about gear and shit
what explanation do you have user? I'm genuinely curious
>He purposely makes characters very hard to like or connect with that's fine by me, I have way bigger problems connecting with characters from most other movies anyway but m8, them parenthesis sections, dude you gotta cut down on that shit it ain't good for ya
David Roberts
Greekfag here, can confirm, brother went to film school. They all drink the european arthouse coolaid since the 70s, probably due to socioeconomic reasons.
Jeremiah Bailey
>unispered what does this mean?
gypsy curse
Gavin Adams
I bet he felt actual physical pain when he realized he couldn't center this frame still a good one
as someone who's known a lot of greeks, could you please also confirm to the other anons that you people really do talk and socialize way more than just about any country north of Italy? I mean I've met swedes who just didn't know how to handle it at times the poor souls
>gypsy curse oh you
Grayson Brooks
Her pussy game is too good tho. I really want a kino gf but they're kinda hard to come by for guys like me.
Easton Martinez
meant for
Jaxson Gonzalez
>Her pussy game user I have no clue what you're on about, do you mean the date you went to see this movie with? kino gf's are great in either case, but a rare find indeed you can sort of grow them, if you're good at that and have a good base to start from
Connor White
I think we're more outgoing than nordics but not more than the british.
Matthew Anderson
>do you mean the date you went to see this movie with? Yeah, I thought you were talking about that lel
Owen Martin
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Joseph Morgan
He was good at math and wanted to be a surgeon like his dad. Colin Farrell fucked up by killing him.
Adrian Wilson
pic related was the most uncomfortable bit in the whole movie
>but not more than the british maaaybe on par with the scots, but otherwise I'll have to disagree
come on user it was but a random process would you have killed your qt daughter instead? she was very good at literature and history and had a lovely voice (except in that one song)
jesus christ no >great poster tho
Gavin Bennett
>she was very good at literature and history and had a lovely voice (except in that one song) yeah but as someone who will be a legacy and pass on the father's superior skills, the choice was clear: Bob all the way.
Brandon Ortiz
If he accepted Alicia Silverstone as his second wife and brought Martin into his home would that have fixed everything?
Joseph Brooks
I don't know if I'd go with someone with such flaky morals one minute he wants this, then the other he says he wants the other just because it suits his situation who knows when or on what he'll change his mind next
of course he was just being stubborn it really is about how overly-principled people can lead entire families down dark sorrowful paths in life
Gavin Scott
and by the way what are your thoughts on the whole smocking theme in the movie?
we first see him smoking then we see martin also smokes then we see his wife smoking then we even see his qt daughter smoking is it about practicing what you preach and how smokers basically never do that? is it about hypocrisy? my dad smoked, stopped for a bunch of years, started somewhat recently again, always made a big deal of it my brother started smoking around 20, no idea if he still does I keep it at 3-4 cigarettes a day for about 5 years now since I moved out
is smoking in the movie a passing of guilt?
Aaron White
does martin do it just to look cool and mature to the qt daughter?
Jace Jenkins
does /bestwife/ do it only when she's stressed?
Cameron Martin
is she just doing it because literally all adults around her do it? do we really transpose our faults on our children?
Austin Harris
Martin said he started at a party. His father was a smoker, had a heart attack and hit a tree, died on the operating table.
Smoking could be a motif for danger, going too close to the edge, moth to a flame. The characters, particularly the daughter, dance around Martin like he's a fire.
Thomas Collins
>mfw this was the first movie I ever saw with my kino gf
Grayson Perez
>said he started at a party of course he'd say that >particularly the daughter, dance around Martin like he's a fire so you think she started because of him? because if that's the case it's the typical situation of younger teens trying to grow up too fast, trying to look cool and adult
if she started because of her parents, it's a case of "well nobody seems to have any other way to deal with their stress and emotions besides smoking so I might as well try that when I feel like shit, these people won't help me anyway" and a lot of the time that's what keeps people into it how soon would Bob start smoking at this rate, if his father wouldn't have nailed him into the couch with bullets?
Jeremiah Sanders
Along with the sunshine, there's gotta be a little rain sometime
Lucas Lewis
That sounds like it's probably true. Given how awkward and strange he was I couldn't see him picking it up at a party. More than likely just took his mother's cigarettes.
Julian Lopez
ok so I have a choice to make for the next movie:
American Graffiti or To Die For
which one comfy, Sup Forums thread?
oh god that one went so over my head
>when your kid's dying and you forgot where you put the crocodile teeth evri foken thyme
well that's what I was thinking too, but she did later say that he was super funny right that's where I get confused: where do you draw the line between autistic direction and actual character traits? are they really like that or are they just shown like that? nobody else in that world seems to pay it any mind, so maybe in that world it\s normal, so for all we know, Martin is the coolest kid in school
Michael Edwards
>you'll never have a wife to clean the blood in your car's trunk why live bros
Cooper Butler
he didn't want to be a surgeon he wanted to be an opthamologist. he was only saying he wanted to be a cardiologist because he didn't want his dad to kill him.
still a doctor is better than their daughter who wasn't particularly good at math or science even though her parents were both MDs.
Luke Brooks
last still from me for this thread
Landon Young
are you saying all kids should only follow in their parents' career paths?
Andrew Hill
not sure but as a cardiologist who knows what kind of havoc smoking can wreak on someone's heart it might have been meant to show him as weak or someone with vices. we only learn later that his drinking might have caused martin's father's death.
Gavin Ramirez
of course not, but at one point earlier in the movie his wife says that he wants to be an opthamologist and colin farrell says "he'd want to be a coal miner if that was your profession"
he only changed his tune because he was trying to curry favor with his dad
Jace Butler
I'd go with the weakness bit because it fits better with the focus on everyone else's smoking as well >a cardiologist on Sup Forums I would shit my pants so hard if I found that out after being under your knife desu that I do agree with yes >what if his wife were a coal burner instead :^)
David Jenkins
i'm not a cardiologist, i meant he was a cardiologist who should know better.
Christian Hughes
oh thank the lawd jesus
Chase Smith
Kind of scary how good Barry Keoghan is at playing an autistic psychopath.
Cameron Rodriguez
dropped it, I don't have patience for artsy movies anymore
Sebastian Long
>anymore what changed user? when?
I'm really glad someone can
Owen Ramirez
All of that guy's movies are pretty good but with horrible shitty endings
Parker Campbell
OK GUYS HEAR ME UP! The kid told the guy that once the 3rd fase started there's no way to save them right? Then why the guy didn't just kill his son instead of spinning to choose one since he was already dead at that point? Just imagine he stopped and killed her wife, the only one to live will be her daughter since the son was already eye-blinding This shit really triggered my autism, am i getting wrong?
Josiah Butler
eye-bleeding*
Adam Bennett
Irritating as fuck.
Easton Jones
>but pretty funny too. Unintentionally so, which is why the movie is such crap.
Wyatt Myers
>killing of a sacred deer is now considered an art film consider suicide
Adrian Thomas
can't be arsed to double check but from what I recall it was that after the 3rd stage (eyes bleeding) he wouldn't have much time and would have to choose hence the hurry to gather downstairs in the living room and it didn't matter who he'd kill at that point, he just had to kill one of his family like he killed one of martin's family
>I know exactly what the director wanted to do and because a small group of people viewed differently, he did it wrong check m8 atheists!!!
Noah Gonzalez
>Raffey smoking.
Giv me a fuckin break....
Carson Fisher
gib good quality dl link for this kino, in my country this shit doesnt gets released for the next 4 months
Henry Allen
I ain't sharing no link, especially if you can't even do a simple search on a torrent website
Benjamin Sanders
No, I'm inclined to think that the mother was in on her son's plan.
Dylan Price
love you too user :3
Anthony Rodriguez
But wouldn't that be another kind of justice? He lost a father, they'd lose a father He lost one of his family members, now his family would lose one of theirs Adds up right I think that was plan A and when that didn't work he just figured he'd have to get one killed NO U
Landon Reyes
Dogtooth > The Lobster > The Killing of a Sacred Deer
This last one didn’t have a solid point behind it. The closing scene was pretty tame.
Lincoln Morales
I dislike this argument when koas is really a tribute to classical greek tragedy. I also failed to note a "solid point" behind lobster