>Chris D'Lando said Venom is very much about the symbiote, more than who is bonded with it.
>Mike Costa called the relationship between Venom and Eddie Brock "a twisted love story." Venom will be a "dysfunctional love story" about two beings deeply connected but bad for each other.
>He compared the reunion of Eddie Brock and Venom to Mary Jane and Peter Parker - but they're not getting back together, are they? No one on the panel addressed the comparison. That was the second mention of Peter and MJ in the panel.
Now that Brock and the symbiote are back together and Venom #150's previous highlight their history, thought it might be fun to take a look back at their relationship over the years and see if what Costa describes is actually true.
So lets start with some of the earliest appearances of the symbiote and how it and Brock met each other.
Who knows, maybe Mike Costa will find this thread and learn a thing or two about symbiotes.
Jordan Lewis
For reference, here are the preview pages from #150.
Colton Thompson
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Hunter Baker
Black and white, but clearer.
Evan Smith
Our story begins back in the original Secret Wars, when a second Spider-Woman appears and sports a now iconic emblem on our her suit.
Tyler Wilson
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Evan Jones
Shortly after the Avengers and other heroes meet Julia Carpenter, Spider-Man fights Titania and has his own costume get torn up.
Benjamin Powell
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Caleb Carter
Hulk informs Spidey that there is a machine that can manufacture new clothing.
Zachary Perry
The whole reason that the symbiote takes on the shape it does, is because Spider-Man had been checking out Julia Carpenter.
James Brooks
As Spider-Man explores the abilities of his new costume, we learn that the webbing it manufactures is stronger than the webbing Peter makes himself.
Nathan Butler
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Matthew Mitchell
When Peter comes back to Earth, he continues to learn about the costume's abilities. Here, we see he learns he can store items in it.
Jordan Clark
Or that the costume can shape shift into clothing, as needed.
Joshua Edwards
Or hand him the items he needs on a mental command. Before Peter even realizes he needs it, even.
Brody Walker
It makes suiting up easy!
Oliver Flores
Sometimes, even when Peter doesn't tell it to while he's sleeping.
Jacob Perry
Leaving Peter feeling like he didn't get any sleep. So far, this is the only downside to having the suit.
Christopher Davis
But its convenient to have when out with Black Cat.
Daniel Thomas
Peter goes several days without any issues at all. No heightened aggression like in other media.
Jose Hughes
Just the alien fighting crime at night, with Peter still asleep.
Cooper Rodriguez
Aside from being tired occasionally in the morning, feeling like he doesn't get any sleep, Peter is none the wiser that his costume is alive.
His first sign, though, is after a fight with Puma where he gets his arm broken, he retreats back to his apartment and tries to command the costume to leave him. For the first time, it doesn't immediately listen to his mental commands.
Levi Parker
But before Peter has much time to think about it, Puma tracks him back to his apartment. Where the costume helps Peter conceal his identity.
Joshua Anderson
As Puma tears through his costume with a swipe during their fight, Peter learns that he doesn't have to worry about repairing his costume.
But Puma seems a little spooked. Does he detect that the suit is more than alien cloth?
Noah Brooks
Puma is defeated, but Peter has to handle some of his own personal issues. This whole time he's been trying to decide between Mary Jane or Black Cat. His suit thinks its helping him out.
Luis Smith
Exhausted, Peter retires for the night.
Eli Cruz
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Isaiah Sullivan
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Nathan Edwards
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Aiden Brown
Off to the Baxter Building!
Ethan Peterson
Reed throws a whole slew of tests at the costume.
Jack Allen
To which, as we all know, Spidey learns that he's wearing more than just a fancy costume.
Bentley Johnson
But contrary to popular belief, the symbiote hasn't actually done anything sinister to Spider-Man. In fact, the only reason he tries to take it off is because Reed tells him to.
Jonathan Phillips
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Connor Rodriguez
The symbiote spends several weeks caged in the Baxter Building, where Reed can study it.
Naturally, it gets ticked. Because who wants to be locked up? What crime did it even commit?
Dylan Thompson
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Isaiah Rogers
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Brayden Morris
>He compared the reunion of Eddie Brock and Venom to Mary Jane and Peter Parker
Is there a single character in the Marvel universe that Costa actually understands?
Cooper Cook
Eventually, the symbiote is able to free itself!
Maybe Kaine and Ultimate Jessica Drew?
Carter Scott
The alien makes its way through the city, seeking out its host.
Josiah Sanchez
It even uses temporary hosts to help expedite its travels and I'd imagine to help it survive (though, it spent quite a while locked up with seemingly no issues).
Isaac Baker
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Ayden Foster
Eventually, it finds its way to Peter's home.
Gabriel Stewart
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Josiah Scott
Which leads us into Peter Parker's final encounter with the alien for a while: Web of Spider-Man #1, which I will present in its entirety.
Nathaniel Perez
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Parker Stewart
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Ryder Long
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Chase Flores
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Daniel Davis
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Julian Turner
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Lincoln Bell
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Logan Hill
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Ryan Rivera
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Ryan Sullivan
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Xavier Miller
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Henry Ross
I know very little about Venom, so this thread is pretty nice. Thanks. I do have a question though, didn't Marvel reveal that the Venom symbiotes are some kind of galactic police force recently? is Venom now going to go back to what he was before?
Parker King
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Isaac Mitchell
>I know very little about Venom, so this thread is pretty nice. Thanks. Sure! Comment along and let me know what you think.
>didn't Marvel reveal that the Venom symbiotes are some kind of galactic police force recently? That was a retcon that happened pretty recently. Won't touch that until we get into recent comics. As we go through the symbiote's history, you'll see how much writers have fucked with it.
Aaron Cruz
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Lucas Powell
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Cooper Bennett
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Xavier Anderson
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Matthew Anderson
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Julian Foster
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Ryan Myers
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Ayden Turner
Even after Peter tried to kill it, the symbiote still cares about him.
Juan Gomez
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Gabriel Bailey
We shift our attention now to Eddie Brock.
Before he met the symbiote, his history is a little tricky to follow, as there are a lot of conflicting stories. So we'll start by showing the flashback Ann Weying (his ex-wife) has recounting their relationship in Amazing Spider-Man #375 and dissect that.
Here she talks about her early relationship with Eddie and Eddie's relationship with his father.
Easton Ortiz
Eddie's big break, though, was when the Sin Eater first showed up and killed detective Jean DeWolff (pic related is the police finding DeWolff's corpse, which kicks off the "Death of Jean DeWolff" story arc shown in the pages of Spectacular Spider-Man).
Brody Morris
The miniseries has a few issues of its own, but Zeb Wells' Venom: Dark Origin did a great job recounting Eddie's big break with the Sin Eater story.
While working for the Daily Globe, we see he here he gets a letter from the Sin Eater.
Alexander Barnes
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Noah Morales
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Joshua Diaz
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Christian Reed
Moving back to Spectacular Spider-Man, Spider-Man is able to capture Emil Gregg, who we learn is not the true SIn Eater.
Note: for anyone confused, Spider-Man is wearing a cloth version of his black suit that Black Cat made for him.
Owen Price
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Ayden Campbell
Spider-Man is able to track down the -true- Sin Eater, Stanley Carter.
Jordan Perry
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Jaxon Ortiz
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Charles Russell
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Connor Bell
We move back to Venom: Dark Origin, where we see that Carter's capture doesn't spell well for Eddie's career.
Elijah Edwards
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Ian Fisher
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Connor White
We learn from Ann's flashback, that losing his job at the Daily Globe caused lots of problems in Eddie's personal life.
Justin Miller
It even drove him a little mad, it seems. Which forced a divorce between Eddie and Ann.
Cooper Morris
We next see Eddie in the "First Kill" backup stories split in the Amazing, Spectacular and Web of Spider-Man annuals released in 1992.
