Thats it?

Thats it?

Are they done with this dude?

Do we even know who he was? Does it matter at this point?

Don't worry, if they stay true to form, they'll have a prequel trilogy after Ep9 that goes in detail to his life as a politician and the rise of the first order

>Thats it?
yes

>Are they done with this dude?
yes

>Do we even know who he was?
He's Snoke

>Does it matter at this point?
Never did

LOL HE CARED! HAHAHA, MORON!

So the Resistance is completely fucked, right? I mean, I thought they would be pulling some "the rest of the galaxy comes together to beat the FO" shit for episode nine, but they explicitly say in this movie that the rest of the galaxy won't help them.

he'll either be alive in the next one or his backstory will revealed in some video game/cartoon/book/comic book.

they have (((((allies))))) in some who the fuck cares place

*inhales*

But who is going to be the main villain now?

Kylo cant possibly do that. He doesn't have the appearance, or character, to really be the big bad for the next one.

BUT THEY HAVE HOPE! HOPE ALWAYS WINS! HOPE HOPE HOPE MAY THE FORCE BE WITH US

They're going to hide under a bucket of shit in the space horse stables until this whole First Order thing blows over.

I feel like Luke projecting a fake copy of himself is too much of a coincidence to not have Snoke doing the same thing. It seems like Disney wants it to be some big surprise in the next film but should have left it as a cliffhanger at the end of this one. Is there anything people noticed during the Snoke scene that showed he wasn't there? The only thing I could think that hints at it would be that he uses the force on Hux as a hollogram so moving Rey around while not actually there is easily doable.

I'm actually looking forward to seeing what kind of BS they have to pull in nine to give it a happy ending. Maybe they'll act like the entire FO just disappears after they redeem/kill Kylo and Hux?

The Knights of Ren? Maybe they turn on Kylo once he turns to the light? And Rey joins them due to Snoke’s corruptive with ghost magic?

Fuck I dunno man. They’ve already fucked with the logic of the universe so much they can come up with any shit they want at this point. The one thing I can 100% gaurantee is that the big bad won’t be a POC or a Woman

Snoke was nothing more than one of JJ Abrams stupid mystery boxes that he never fleshes out. He's obsessed with Mystery Boxes.

Itll all be answered in 9

He was physically cut in half though. He's dead

>MUH PLAGUEIS
HAHAHAHAHA

They're going to announce another trilogy starring Rey, Poe, and Finn. It will make TLJ an even bigger fuck you'.

JJ isn't creative enough to do that. The film will have next to no original ideas and will be thoroughly predictable.

Decide for yourself if that's preferable to what The last jedi did.

It's going to be a previously unseen alien from outer space that the resistance and first order have to fight together
>le yuzon vong

Darth Vader chokes out an imperial officer on the star destroyer through the space internet. If anything it was foreshadowed in episode 5

! that is not a dude , but a dark arts black magic female on madagascar , sacrifices others and even hides bodies to dry out and curse people , voldemort is a female , madagascar is a problem !

I know Kylos lightsaber went through Luke but Luke interacted physically when he wanted to. He kissed Leia and gave her Hans dice even though they weren't real. Snoke could have done the same. I dunno the film fucks with normal star wars logic so much it's hard to tell.

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We never saw Maul's lifeless body in TPM. We do here for Snoke

Yea I'm sure Maul just started walking away immediately after landing...

>Palpatine just got picked up and thrown off the side.
That's it? Does it matter at this point?
>Boba Fett accidentally killed
That's it? Does it matter at this point?

Kylo gets redeemed, kills Hux and becomes a benevolent dictator, with Rey as his right hand.

Because they did not, also in this movie, establish that high-level Jedi can force-project images of themselves doin' all kindsa shit.

>fucks with star wars logic
That is a good thing. Its better than rehashing force stuff we have already seen like lightning or telekinesis. Remember when Kylo freezing a laser bolt in mid-air was one of the best things about TFA just because it was something new. Dont want to attack you just wanted to point out that its good that they do new stuff.

>JJ in charge of paying off his "mystery boxes"

Even if he's alive in the next one, it'll piss off the audience because it'll feel very retconned or lame. If they were to go down that route, I'd much rather them retcon Luke's death. I'd be a more bittersweet feeling at least

Cartoon canon is irrelevant to the movies. No one in a movie will ever acknowledge Darth Maul lived past PM

Yea I agree, never thought it was a bad thing, just makes it hard to predict the outcome.

I think its more likely that Hux and the First Order are going to get sick of Ren long before he gets sick of them.

They're fucked. Episode IX is going to be about Kylo and Hux fighting over leadership of the first order, with the A-team of the resistance taking out casino royale and rescuing the stable kids to make a point about war profiteers before Kylo teams up with the gang to take out Hux and set up an expanded universe with a new jedi academy that teaches both light and dark side while the galaxy has a huge ass civil war involving system fighting amongst themselves because the first order are incompetent nazis, the republic capital got blown the fuck up, and we need a bunch of potential factions for future movies and media vehicles to exploit.

The whole projecting thing is kinda gay though. Any sort of death scene to a force sensitive character can be easily retconned now, making force users deaths meaningless

Clone Wars is 100% confirmed canon to the Star Wars universe - including the new Episodes. Maul may not be reference in the new movies (why would he? Obi kills him before the events of New Hope).

>100% confirmed canon
I know that, but it's no one cares because non-movie canon is irrelevant to the films.

This. Next movie is going to open with Hux coming up with some way to avoid getting force-bitch slapped at every turn.

Him using the force on Hux from light years away could be a hint of some sort i guess

>THESE MOVIES AREN'T ORIGINAL! GLIB FACSIMILE

>GIVE US ANOTHER PALPATINE!

Really makes you think, doesn't it?

I think projecting yourself being cut in half, lying on the floor dead is a stretch.

More like ignored canon. So its only canon so nerds will shut up but it will never be referenced in the movies or the obi-wan spin off for example. De jure it happened but de facto it didnt

>giving a fuck about Snoke
>wanting him to be a boring rehash

They still should have shown a bit of how he corrupted Kylo Ren though sometime during the movie.

Snoke was a shit tier palpatine rip off, and everyone should be glad he's gone. Now we can have a Vader who isn't the emperor's lap dog.

Yes most of this board is retarded. I accept if someone doesnt like the movie but only if the reasoning is not retarded, which most times it is.

>give us another cool, interesting character with a basic thought-out backstory
FUCKING ENTITLED SHITS

Too bad kylo is a shitty rip off of vader

Snoke couldn't be interesting. He's literally Diet Sheev.

>Remember when Kylo freezing a laser bolt in mid-air
When Kylo "releases his hold," the bolt continues along its previous trajectory. So basically, JJ thinks that, if you catch a baseball and then let go, it'll keep flying as it was before you caught it.

>They still should have shown a bit of how he corrupted Kylo Ren though sometime during the movie.

They should have had a montage explaining just why the fuck Luke even considered going Anakin-on-younglings with him. It would have made sense if we got a sort of competing Light and Darkness theme going on with Kylo, with both Snoke and Luke thinking he tends too much towards the other.

He WAS a shitty rip off of Vader. Now he can be something else.

The force isn't real and is pretty much magic. Physics doesn't matter when it comes to how the force works and how it manipulates objects

It's more the fact there's no visible threat for 9. If they made Rey bad or had Kylo Rens knights or some shit maybe there would be something to look forward to but it's looking like a face off against Ren/Hux again who they already stomped completely in the first one.

buy the upcoming novel(s) and comic books!

Let's be real, he'll still be a whiny little bitch and get his ass handed to Rey once again

There's the fact that he looked a lot younger "in person" and never even left his throne room or even stood up. He might have been another force projection and he might still be alive.

I think JJ will bring the Knights of Ren

The First Order still exists
Hux still exists
Kylo is a loose cannon

All of these are enough to develop a compelling story if done correctly.

Besides that being a lame excuse, it's more likely that JJ just doesn't know anything at all. Given all the insane horseshit that went down in the Star Trek reboots.

LOL it'd be crazy if they really go in this direction

>Is there anything people noticed during the Snoke scene that showed he wasn't there?
He looked a lot younger than in his hologram appearance in VII, as did Luke when he fought Kylo. There's a very high chance it was a projection.

Yeah fuck logic and internal consistency that shit is gay

Yeah, he's a whiny edge lord who loses. I think that strikes a chord with a lot of people, and gives him room to grow.

It's a lot easier to suspend your disbelief with the force though

I still want them to make Tarantino the director, bring back Mace Windu, and see him kick Kylo's ass!

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Snoke is Jiro

They won't make him grow in a meaningful way. I guarantee you that they'll double down on him being an emotional wreck.

Saw Gurerra

Not exactly. The problem with "it's magic" is, at some point you have to ask, how is this different from An Andalusian Dog? The amount of magicness that's acceptable is limited by what makes something credible as a film. This was something that was both heinous and pointless, and coupled with JJ's failings in the understanding-anything-about-the-world department, "it's magic" is a lame excuse.

He stood up and walked around. Were you shitposting and missed it?

J.J. is a terrible director and a hack. One needs only to look at TFA to see that. Look at how many stories he tried to tell, how many characters he tried to develop. What the fuck was he thinking?

Snoke is literally just a white male who is anguished that the patriarchy is over.

His action figures mustn't have been selling well.

I mean before the eu and prequels who was Sheev, besides Ian mcdiarmid.

The regular sized one only comes with a $180 playset. So you're right, from a certain point of view.

The evil Emperor, who dies in the first movie he appears in person in.

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Who is the girl?

Sorry, legit forgot he did. But still, it might have been a force projection. He could still use force lightning OVER a projection, that's pretty impressive.

Id agree with you, but it's not hard to believe the force could stop a laser bolt in time and causing it to regain its momentum again. It's such a petty thing to even care about in the first place. The guy is hack and you're probably right. I wish that the laser scene was the only flaw in the movie

I think I heard once that Sheev was supposed to be weak, more of a symbol than anything. This would make more sense with the original telling, where the Jedi were itinerant warriors. In a samurai story, you wouldn't really expect the emperor to be all that.

The laser blast is energy, and the Force is projected energy (telekinesis requires energy to move objects, making the Force a form of projected energy). It's not implausible that within it you could manipulate energy and basically stop it in mid air. I want to see Kylo using more of his Force Paralysis thing, that's pretty cool and can come in handy. I guess he didn't use them against the Praetorian Guards because they probably have some training against Force users or something?

I quit watching The Force Awakens like twenty minutes in. This whole thing started because of a claim that stopping the laser bolt was an interesting new use of the Force, and my point is that it was retarded. And it's retarded in a way that was also chronic in the Star Trek reboots, just a total disinterest in what the world is like on JJ's part. If this were actually a one-off then I'd reduce this to, I'm complaining about this because I stopped watching before having much else to complain about, but after the Enterprise lost engines and went into freefall and then the crew were running along the walls---

The Jedi fear the Samurai

In the original plot for Star Wars, the emperor was just supposed to be a corrupt politician controlled by special interests. It wasn't until much later that he became Vader's space magician master.

Plagueis confirmed!

Odette Yustman.

It's all about 'teh moment' and 'muh emotions'. That's why these films are so dumb.

>Does it matter at this point?
I mean, the reason for everything hinges on his influence. In fact, this movie solidifies this by implying Kylo was influence by him BEFORE he turned on Luke.
He still has the claim as the being who brought The First Order out from the Empire's ashes, making them into the most powerful military force in the universe.
He's pretty much the reason anything bad is happening, even postmortem. So they still have a lot of explaining to do with him. They just went and made it horribly awkward since they need to deliver so much exposition on a dead guy.

It, like, literally doesn't matter. Like, just turn your brain off!