Daily reminder that it's okay to disagree with tumblr, reddit, and Sup Forums. The Last Jedi was a good movie...

Daily reminder that it's okay to disagree with tumblr, reddit, and Sup Forums. The Last Jedi was a good movie. Better than the prequels and TFA by far.

It was better then (TLJ >>>>>> TFA), but the prequels are much better then this nu-Kennedy-wars shit.

it was like a 5.5/10 compared to TFA's 5/10
an improvement but still fundamentally mediocre

I didn't like the movie but that is damn nice looking poster.

It's a very bad, poorly-written mess of a movie, even by Star Wars' low standards. I'm getting a ton of enjoyment out of it because of all the ass-blasting it's causing all over the place, but that doesn't change the fact.

POSITIVES
>far and away the most space-based star wars
>resistance plot is speed in space and pulls it off well
>despite being a woman with purple hair, holdo is a captivating character with plenty of shades of grey
>prequel trilogy actually gets some love in the canto bight sequence calling back phantom menace's tatooine act
>rey shows weaknesses and faults (actually fleshing out her character)
>kylo shows strengths and doubts about allegiences (actually fleshing out his character)
>luke has failed and this actually effects his plot unlike some superhero who is heroic for the sake of being heroic
>fucking puppet yoda
>the suicide run was straight out of my animes
>snoke was a chump and the twist that he really wasn't that important felt good since trying to make him even more evil than sidious would have just been embarrassing
>luke vs kylo
>fuck you, porgs are adorable, didn't effect the plot like ewoks, and were kept mostly in the background
>papabacca
>hoth's placement always bothered me by making the rest of the movie sort of anticlimactic, action-wise; krait at the end was a fitting 'final stand'
>the 'true' story of luke searching kylo, becoming horrified, and then resisting the dark side fits perfectly with his character and actually bridges the OT and ST unlike Han and Leia
>johnson (who i don't care for) actually broke the boring abrams/spielberg/cameron mold and inserted a good amount of panache in the direction

NEGATIVES
>finn and rose didn't do much to endear me to them
>luke's exit wasn't quite as centerplaced as I would have hoped

Overall, 7/10. 3rd best SW after ANH and ESB. It seems normies hated it because it made TFA pointless, which was good in my book because TFA was a pointless movie to begin with.

The disney movie posters are shit. The hand drawn posters are a lot better.

fuck off

>tries to murder a child in his sleep
Try watching the movie, it's actually really good.

It’s the worst Star Wars movie and audiences seem to agree

Ah yes, that bastion of taste, the Rotten Tomatoes audience score. Truly, they are the artmakers.

I saw it. It was a mediocre dull movie with some good high points.

But the fact that they used so much ((subversion)) makes me hate it

It’s a shit movie and you’re still in the denial phase. It’s gonna hit you like a hangover from Hell.

Im actually okay with audience score for rotten tomatoes, its the prequel scores thats wrong.

It's a good movie and you're still in the echo chamber phase. One day you'll realize your point of view doesn't have to be approved by majority.

It's a real shame Guinness and Cushing aren't around to rip it a new one. The originals got by on charm and simplicity, everything since has just traded on their reputation.

Is Disney finally firing people in the shill department after this disaster?

>dude plot holes don't matter just turn off your brain lmao

I mean people agree with them when it's a Marvel capeshit

fucking this

By the looks of the OP, no.

What’s good about it? Breastfeeding Luke? Porgs? Admiral Gender Studies?

It’s a disaster of a film and you’re butthurt about it.

That’s 9 Star Wars films now and only less than half are considered any good.

That's devastating to read, it's good to know everybody hates this piece of shit except paid shills

Daily reminder that you've failed, shill. TLJ is a failure.

>liking a Star Wars movie for its novelty when it's not a standalone film

see

Critic Consensus: war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength.

You know Luke failed at the end of RotJ? He would've died a the end if a youngling killer didn't save him

Congratulations, you are the most sane person on Sup Forums. Here is your reward.

But that's all fucking retarded.
>no it's not shit, it's chocolate
>anyway I enjoy the delicious taste of shit

Luke didn't fail, though. He was there to turn Vader back, not kill the Emperor.

Shutup kid

>it looked like shit from a distance because that's what normies were saying
>better not get closer and make sure it actually was shit
>i am so smart for listening to the majority without question

Why is this mentalist telling me delicious chocolate dropped out of a dog's arse?

Why do people get more angry at someone liking this one than TFA? There wasn't this kind of anger 2 years ago when TFA got good reviews.

He almost killed Anakin, the whole point is that Luke isn't any better than Anakin and if he was in his position he would do exactly the same. It's the whole point of the scene in Empire where Luke see's his face in Vader's mask. Luke fears his power and failed to control it. He was unable to "turn" Vader and it was only be Anakin's own volition at the sight of Luke's suffering for him that he saved Luke. Luke was a failure like his father but together they were able to make it right.

It was a brilliant fucking film.Easily top 4 in the franchise.Fucking autistic retards with no friends sitting in their mom’s basement sipping on 3 day old piss and shoving doritos into their fat mouth while doritos fall into their neckbeard have decided to bring this movie down because they don’t have a life and don’t like anything others like to try to be “cool” and “edgy” but what they don’t understand is,being a 40 year old virgin living in your mom’s basement criticising everything doesn’t make you “edgy”.

Hating on TFA became "cool" a year after its release.

Because TFA was just the bones of A New Hope with a coat of diversity, whereas TLJ is a blob of diversity wearing the flayed skins of former cast members.

I must have missed the part where Poe is jailed simply for having a penis, Rose performs some magical plot action by using her vagina, and Finn wins the day because space-NAACP sends a C&D to Phasma. How old are you?

Close, but it was balls instead of penis and some sort of magnetic orange beach ball instead of the NAACP.

oasoasoate le paco s awan

Kys, TFA was absolute garbage, after I saw it you cant imagine the anger in me. Then I saw the critiques afterwards ohh boy, all the nostalgia faggots.

Or kershner

nice try disney shill, neck yourself next time you betray the human race

>despite being a woman with purple hair, holdo is a captivating character with plenty of shades of grey
try and make your post believable 0/10

how much is warner brothers paying you for posts like these?

Kennedy has no idea what she is doing. She can say the right words to please the crowds but beyond that she is a talentless broad

lol, reddit and tumblr are trying to justify this pile of trash

7/10

lol what are you doing on reddit and tumblr user?

Don't worry, you can express your bad taste worldwide.

you're fucking retarded if you think its a good movie. It's garbage. Watch a camrip. It's bad. I highly doubt that you saw the movie.

It's okay to have your own opinions. Let it out.

One thing is for certain... We need more threads about it.

>i'm so brave for enjoying a mediocre film and expressing my poor taste on an anonymous forum where others dislike the film
really nigger?

>God Tier
ESB
>Good Tier
ANH
RotJ
>Ok Tier
RotS
>Bad Tier
TFA
>Awful Tier
TPM
TJ
>Who the fuck let this be filmed tier
AotC

you're not a special snowflake for enjoying the film. according to RT, over 50% did. you just have bad taste.

Defiantly better than TFA and I actually enjoyed a lot of it but so much of it was pointless. Also I hate how they completely fucked Luke's character.

>according to RT
Has Sup Forums really fallen this far?

>farm boy was some ubermensch all along
Lame.
>farm boy created a legend bigger than himself
Real shit.

I am divided. Your post makes sense. I just hate the motivations for some choices.
I like and hate the movie.

Remove the casino and it's on par with ESB. Kylo Ren becomes the star of the trilogy in TLJ.

Casino was ultimately pointless but the fact that Disney was showing some love for the PT for the first time in its reminiscence of the Tatooine act of TPM made it worthwhile to me.

Agreed with all.

I must've missed that. What was the reference?

Something also tells me Rian prefers prequels to JJ's boring rehash.

Slavery, the race, how the true villains are playing both sides, the general tone.

>MUH LUKE IS SUPPOSED TO BE GARY SUE

>MUH REY PARENTAGE

>MUH LOST MYSTERIES AND CLICHES
Rian is fucking based for setting SW shit straight. No dumb mysteries as cliffhangers. No dumb OT rehashes. It's time for the OT to end. It's time for a new era of Star Wars.

I really don't understand how people think the Rey parentage is settled when there's still a film to go and the fact that we're supposed to trust the villain that they're nobody in a clear and stated attempt to turn Rey, along with finding out how Snoke turned Kylo.

95% agree except that I'll always have a soft spot for TPM since I was like 9 when it came out. I'd put it solidly in the Bad Tier

Okay, even ignoring the social justice warrior aspects and plot holes, the movie has no narrative flow. It also destroys things that TFA sets up instead of addressing them. There are a lot of cool moments, but they make no sense under scrutiny.

The throne room battle looked cool, but Snoke, who is insanely powerful, can't detect Kylo trying to kill him with Rey's lightsaber? And the praetorion guards lose a fight against Rey, who has next to no training with a lightsaber? And Rey even outperforms Kylo Ren in a sword fight, even though, again, she has no experience with a light saber? And the movie had over 90 minutes of time to show her getting training from Luke, but it just didn't, which makes Rey look like an even bigger Mary Sue.

Add in the pointless side plots and bizarre, unfunny humor, and one has a mess of a film.

>Snoke, who is insanely powerful, can't detect Kylo trying to kill him with Rey's lightsaber?
He was detecting that the uncertainty in Kylo had ended. As if the uncertainty of the trilogy itself ends. Sheev didn't detect Vader turning either.

>It also destroys things that TFA sets up instead of addressing them
How in the everliving fuck is that a bad thing? I feel like I'm taking crazy pills that this board suddenly adores what TFA did to the lore.

ANH = ESB > > > TLJ > ROTJ = ROTS > > > TFA > > > AOTC > TPM > RO > > > TCW

The point is not that TFA isn't shit. It's shit. However its existence makes watching TLJ worse than it would otherwise be (it would still be uninteresting and painfully self-conscious).

The point isn't that The Force Awakens was good and The Last Jedi was shit; the point is that The Force Awakens gave audiences unanswered questions that left the series with something to work with, and The Last Jedi destroyed all of that potential and gave the audiences nothing to look forward to. It would be one thing if the movie fully went with subverting expectations, but it just pussied out at the last second. All we are left with now is a Mary Sue facing off against somebody she already beat in the first movie. All mystery and suspense is lost.

I thought Star Wars was a Space Opera not a mystery movie?

"it's a good movie" is pretty damning criticism.

star wars is supposed to be far better than a good movie. it's supposed to invoke imagination, emotion, and wonder on a scale that few other films are able to manage. it's supposed to have characters with motivations, dreams, frustrations, and conflicts that the audience can universally relate to. it's supposed to make you think about the worlds outside it, not the worlds that it has to limit itself to.

i could watch the original three movies every day. i haven't bothered to watch TFA/rogue one a second time. i'm not going to bother watching TLJ either. why water down greatness with slightly-above-averageness?

A movie doesn't have to be a "mystery movie" to have mysteries in it? When I say "mystery," I mean storytelling hooks, and The Last Jedi has none. It goes out of its way to eliminate all cliffhangers, which matters because this is the second part of a trilogy. There is no incentive to watch the next movie other than obligation.

Even if rey was daughter of someone very important, it still makes her a mary sue. Parentage means you have raw power, you have the power inside, but you need to learn to use it. Luke didnt know anything about the force, and he actually needed to train to use his force. Anakin had to too.
But no, she manages to pull mind tricks off, levitate multiple rocks and other advance stuff.

They screwed everything. Only way to save this trilogy is to end it with "it was just a dream", and we see rey waking up in Jakku just in a normal day.

It's not okay to be a shill though

Reminder that it's okay to not like this movie just as much as it's okay to like the movie. Diverse opinions make the world more interesting.

kill yourself retard

Warner Brothers has deposited 0.0002 BTC into your account.

Uh no sweetie, The Last Jedi is a cinematic tour de force and if you don't love it you're objectively on the wrong side of history and a bigot.

Most of the criticism I'm seeing (least the stuff that isn't just pure contrarianism or bitching about politics) genuinely confuses me. It's almost like half of the audience saw a completely different movie,a nd the only explanations I can think of are that people were deliberately looking for things to hate because they were annoyed at petty stuff, or they just weren't paying attention and possibly didn't understand the way Johnson structured the plot around the themes. And I'm not trying to be pretentious or insult people; Johnson definitely structured this movie a completely different way than any other SW movie. For the most part, previous movies have as had very linear plots, with a basic structure where things get resolved quickly and then the plot movies on. TLJ has a lot of buildup for certain plot points that don't get resolved until the end of the movie, in a more complex way. The Canto Bight B-polot is a good example. A lot of people seem to think nothing happens, but it's actually a key part of the movie's theme about learning from failure. Poe, Finn, and Rey undertake the mission and mutiny out of the hope that the plan would save them, and they fail. Poe almost got the entire resistance killed in another boneheaded move, and it seriously effects him. It's also a chance for Finn to learn to care about resistance as a whole and not just obsess over Rey. It has a point, but it doesn't have the immediate payoff people are expecting.

The movie definitely isn't perfect (I almost lost hope for it after that stupid prank call in the beginning), but neither are any movies in the franchise. I thought it was really damn good, and the more I think about it, the more I like it. And what I liked most about it was that it was the first SW movie since ROTJ to actually feel like it was focused on themes and had a strong message of hope.

I liked it because it's the first Star Wars since Episode 3 that actually had great visuals and innovative set pieces. That scene with Kylo and Rey fighting over the light sabre as the tumblrina kamikazes her ship into them. That was Star Wars. Nothing in The Farce Awakens evoked a response in me. It was so dry. So by-the-numbers. So not-Star Wars.

Canto Bight doesn't teach anybody about learning from failure. Finn's only worthwhile moment was spoiled by chubby cheeks for moronic reasons. Neither of them did anything in the movie.

Maybe the real lesson is that Midget Shrek will fucking spoil everything.

That moment wasn't spoiled, though. Finn disobeyed an order and was about to kill himself for something that probably wasn't going to work (Poe said it wasn't, and his ship was falling apart), which ties into Poe's actions throughout the movie and the theme about making the right choices and retreating when it's smart.

>rey waking up in Jakku just in a normal day.
That'd be a pretty good ending 2bh.

>Snoke, who is insanely powerful, can't detect Kylo trying to kill him with Rey's lightsaber?
He was too arrogant to think that Kylo would try to kill him. That's the entire point of the scene showing him explaining everything in detail; he knew what was happening, but wasn't expecting that Kylor's "true enemy" was him, because he thought Stockholm Syndrome and promises of power had bought Kylo's complete loyalty.

Kino

Apparently now the force is just something you're given and it'll automatically increase to balance your opponent, as well as granting you the usual telekinetic shit and lightsabre techniques without the need to train.
Check your force privilege, sithlords.

As of today, the movie has grossed $745M worldwide. It needs to reach around $800M to break even and make a profit.

Reminder that Anakin's parents were nobodies aswell.

Shmee didn't want Ani to hear mummy was raped in the back alley.

Source?

it was ok
tfa was better
tlj is better than aotc and r1

Even if it didn't work, it was still worth a shot. And Rose crashing into him and not dying, was icing on the stupidity cake. They are literally a few hundred feet from the First Order, but they are somehow able to have their stupid, contradictory conversation while the bad guys just watch them? And Finn is able to drag an injured Rose back to the base without being obliterated?

Rose makes a speech about self-sacrifice not winning the resistance the war, even though the restance is still alive because Holdo and Luke sacrificed themselves. That's just one of the many instances where the movie falls flat.

What? He still had to train for years.
Nu-Wars is the equivalent of somebody being given a doctorate on the basis of an IQ test.