Mostly agree with you, but never take the fact that movie critics liked it as a good reason why the movie you are defending is good
Jack Thomas
Why is the online war between Star Wars fans so much more entertaining than Star Wars itself?
Xavier Barnes
You mean between disney shills and sw fans
Levi Reed
Spotted the normie
>>>/reddit/
Jeremiah Jenkins
Luke Skywalker's entire arc is a valid criticism though?
Julian Jenkins
>Defending TLJ with a prequel meme.
Lucas Bell
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Dylan Ward
if disney paid me to shill I would also be on the phone arguing with myself.
Daniel Edwards
casino world.
Easton Rogers
>astrology
Justin Hall
Hey, it's just a job, I wasn't complaining just making an observation.
Nathaniel Flores
People "liked" TFA on the surface, an abstract feeling like
>wow, I'm out the theater and it didn't ruin anything or anybody from SW. Incredible
And then TLJ came and did damage for seven movies combined.
Cooper Foster
the entire main conflict is one ship slowly trying to get away from a bigger ship. The justification is that huck the cuck is a super retard general who thinks it would be funny to wait as long as possible to win, and general holdo’s plan is so good and so perfect that she won’t tell anyone anything and ends up getting people killed. Meanwhile finn isn’t allowed to be cool anymore, and sets off with a half baked character to go on a prequel-tier adventure through a casino and horse stable, and give the most heavy handed “fuck da empire” message ever. BB-8 saves everyone, none of the new cast dies because they aren’t allowed to, and Leia’s inner force is finally explored with her FLYING THROUGH SPACE. And we coulda just rammed them the whole fucking time how crazy is that.
Fortunately the other plot with Kylo, Luke and the gang is actually good as Mark Hamill actually put effort in despite Rian not really understanding Luke’s character. Kylo Ren is actually interesting, Luke drinks a milk, but they killed him off so now there’s hardly anything to look forward to for the next film. Finn and Poe were put in lame situations, Rey has no explanation for her skills because they didn’t even try, and Rose was written by someone who doesn’t understand humans. Now JJ has to deal with Rian ignoring all of the implied plot threads and questions from TFA and hopefully deliver a satisfying ending.
Honestly not a bad film at all, just pretty sloppy and wastes a lot of the previous film’s build up. Maybe Rian’s own trilogy will turn out better as he can plan stuff from the start, except nobody will care because star wars is about the characters, not “hey wanna see a mud planet”.
Parker Ross
RO is literally about SW fanservice and the characters are a bunch of fucking terrible husks. It's considered by some to be the best overall SW movie.
Chase Wood
and People who praise TLJ don’t honestly have any good criticism on the film except “it made bold decisions”, well Batman v superman also made bold decisions too so I guess that’s just as awesome as well right?
Mason Morris
Well I didn’t think it was that good, mainly because the first hour is pretty boring. Even then, it at least fits in to Episode IV, a movie people care about. That context helps it a lot. I doubt anyone would put Rogue One over the OT.
Leo Myers
Why was there a map to Luke if he didn't want to be found? If he didn't want to be found and wanted to die why did he go to another random planet? That's a pretty big hole
Colton Brooks
i've been looking for the christmas version of this, someone post it
Adrian Brown
How could Poe shoot at the Star Destroyer at the beginning of the movie ? Isn't it supposed to have a shield ?
Why does it take so long for 10 Star Destroyers to destroy the Resistance flagship ? Juste because it has a shield even though the Star Destroyers don't ?
What is the whole point of the escape plan ? The Resistance escape ships have a cloaking device, but it turns out that the First Order have an anti-cloaking scanner that they forgot to turn on. How dumb exactly are the First Order people ?
Why didn't the Resistance cloak their flagship in the first place ?
What does it mean for the escape ships to have a cloaking device when you could spot them just by looking through the window ? "The First Order is focused on the flagship and doesn't expect the Resistance to escape in secondary ships". Well when you're shooting at someone, the first thing you should expect is that they try escape, dummy.
Why does it take so long for the First Order to shoot these unarmored escape ships once they have spotted them ?
Charles Taylor
Now I'll tell you why The Last Jedi is so bad :
>Be me >Watching Star Wars IV : A New Hope >Wow this Darth Vader is the guy in charge and is scary as shit >Watching Star Wars V : Empire Strikes Back >Wow Darth Vader is actually scared of Palpatine >Don't know who Palpatine is but he must be the ultimate badass >Can't wait till Luke kills these two mofos and brings peace back to the galaxy >Simple as that >No complex BS background story needed
>Be me >Watching The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi >mfw Hux is a clown and an old-fashioned Disney villain with a funny voice, like the one you would expect to see in the Herbie film series >mfw Kylo Ren is a brat >Who the fuck is Snoke ? Is he even in charge ? >mfw Snoke dies and nobody seems to care >mfw we don't even know who's in charge anymore, either the clown or the brat >mfw the First Order can't even take down a simple defenseless cargo ship >mfw we are not scared of the First Order a single second >mfw what are the First Order motives ? To rule the galaxy ? Are they done yet ? >mfw we don't know and we don't care >What are Rey motives ? mfw it's not even to kill the bad guy but to fall in love with him >What will be the next movie objectives ? >Maybe fall in love with Kylo Ren, give Hux a good spank, give the First Order employees their paycheck and tell them to go home >mfw that's all >mfw why do these movies even exist ?
Daniel Thomas
Shes so strong and brave and powerful and white men are so evil...............
Hoky shit can they at least hire women who go on dates and arent 40 year old cat ladies who hat men as a subconscious justification for their own failings?
This is like having MGTOW and incels writing a rom com.
Jace Nelson
>This is like having MGTOW and incels writing a rom com. its called NTR user.
Jack Perry
I didn't like The Last Jedi >You're wrong Pardon? >You did like it
Blake Gomez
Honestly what is their plan for the trilogy? They spent 2 films shoehorning the universe back to Le Epic Rebels vs the evil Empire just so nostalgic numales could be happy but destroying the sense of scale we felt with the Prequels to a conflict that seems as small scale as a COD team death match
Joshua Kelly
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Hunter Campbell
>if it subverts something it's good >marxism hasn't infected everything
Kayden Campbell
I disliked The Last Jedi because of all the bad humor in it.
Hudson Butler
Why aren't people allowed to dislike things, anymore?
Gavin Gray
Every time you dislike a film Hollywood tried to tailor to your demographic, they burst out of the woodwork to tell you how they really feel about you since you're not forking over your shekels. You should stop supporting this industry on principle. It's clear at this point that even if they accidentally make something worthwhile, they harbor nothing but contempt for you and your sensibilities.
Jordan Gutierrez
Or Kylo Ren's arc. Or Rey's complete lack of an arc. Or how the movie constantly teases killing off the old way of doing things, and even kills the faces of the Dark Side and the Light Side, but then says, "Nah, let's keep the status quo anyway."
If the movie ended with ambiguity with Rey accepting Kylo's hand, I would have at least been excited for what happens next. But no, she's perfect in every way, the face of The First Order is somebody with incomprehensible motives, Snoke is dead, Luke is dead, and Leia will die off screen.
Brayden Phillips
>the mouse damage control never ends lmao
Hunter Walker
Why not just hyper space ram the rotten tomatoes score?
Jonathan Ortiz
Jokes on you faggot I've never seen the movie I just hate it because it's popular and I hate anything that's popular. I make 5 threads about Star Wars a day critiquing it and I've never even seen any of the Star Wars movies
Charles Flores
Holdo is a retarded character who simultaneously makes Poe look like a tremendous retarded asshole for ever disagreeing with her AND Poe still doesn't go through character development because of his interactions with Holdo. The score, like TFA, was complete garbage. The humour was completely tonally off with the rest of the movie, like all examples of Marvel quips.
Bentley Murphy
Because the Nazis disliked things. You are not a Nazi are you?
Carter Brown
>How dumb exactly are the First Order people ? You're asking this when the General of the entire fucking organization literally fell for a prank call "you're mom" joke.
Connor Smith
Lucas should rejoice. TLJ definitely felt like an episode of a tv show.
Kevin Morales
I've been an actual movie critic and professional writer, and I can tell you that anyone who has been through grade school can do the job. The only difference between a professional writer and an amateur blogger is that writing for a professional publication typically demands an obligation toward a specific voice or tone. When a professional critic goes into a theater to review a film, he has many interests to keep in mind.
Liam Wilson
That is mind-bogglingly retarded even for a Reddit post.
Joseph Hill
fucking hell. does that idiot even know what the fuck he's saying? LOL, does this moron think it's great art because it subverts your expectations. That mode of thought is as bad as contemporary art which is all about "reactions against" this thing or that thought. boring. you can make a cookie cutter with that mentality and bake shit cookies all day
Jaxon Anderson
>touched much like the reddit tard who wrote that
Elijah Morgan
It's the best of the new ones. Yet still miles behind the OT and even PT.
Levi Baker
Even this shit is 110% better than TLJ. I'd watch the fuck out of a movie based around it.
Ian Hughes
I have a better question. Why is it whenever someone dislikes something now they're thrown into some kind of boogeyman group that they may not even belong to?
Samuel Flores
I know star wars guys, and what a mary sue is
Christian Adams
>a huge portion of the movie is completely pointless and Rian didn't understand Luke's character at all >the movie is still good though
Isaac Campbell
better than NuWars
Kevin Long
>she's not a mary sue
lmao
Joshua Russell
No one is begging this guy to lay down the SW knowledge
Zachary Lee
nothing happens but everyone dies anyways
Noah Parker
Liberals are still seething over Hillary and can't believe it so they're doubling down
>I'm super smart and I coudn't think of any criticisms so neither can you therefore I'm right you're wrong NA NA NA NA NA NA NA NA IM NOT LISTENING
nice bait. fuck off it. it was poorly written, childish characters and nearly endless plot lines that lead no where. waste of time
Xavier Clark
i mean, nobody brought up Hillary but you, rent fucking free hahaha
Luis Collins
>Lucas planned episodes 7-9 to be about Luke's sister who would be MORE powerful having trained since birth I find this statement difficult to believe (how the hell would he have had a sister aside from Leia?), and even if it were true just the simple fact that she'd been trained since birth would put her miles ahead of Rey as a character.
Landon Wood
>she'd be a mary sue
haha
no she fucking wouldn't since chances are she would have been taught from a young age at Uncle Lukes Jedi Academy.
Then her power would be fucking explained. Unlike MaRey Sue.
Colton Powell
ask your master if they can keep star wars revenue from falling
Henry Taylor
you are playing int their trap if you concede the movie is "risky" or "revolutionary". This is a shitty remake of ESB, this whole series is a safe rehash. Unless being shitty is a creative risk lol
Benjamin James
It's true. When Star Wars first became a success, Lucas went crazy with ideas and started talking about a sequel trilogy where episode 7 was about Luke finding his sister (a new character), who was already trained, and them teaming up to find the emperor, who they were supposed to kill in episode 9. Lucas eventually got tired of working on Star Wars and thought it was ruining his life, so he condensed the fuck out of everything for ROTJ and made Leia Luke's sister.
Jose Gonzalez
I'd have to have actually gone and seen it to do that, word of mouth was bad enough for me to save my money luckily.