Who was she?

Who was she?

Vicky's sister?

/our girl/

Deepthroat

My fetish

Is she still in the cartoon

>tfw Tootie got to stay home, be a NEET, and invent all sorts of cool Timmy stalking devices, while Vicky had to work non-stop for Mr. and Mrs. Turnstein and show up earlier or else they would dock her pay again

She was standing around in a line for a talent show in a recent episode, but as far as I know she hasn't really had any major episodes since the one where her scout troop BTFO Timmy's.

Pic unrelated, but Tootie thread?

Yeah sure why not.

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Shouldn't Vicky be like way taller?

How would you write Tootie back into the show anyway? I liked her character a lot but it feels like she has no way to fit into the story anymore.

Chloe basicaly stole her role as being Timmy's potential friend and female fairy-sharing companion.

Timmy has also dropped his crush on Trixie, he seems to have no interest in girls at this point, Chloe hung out with him an entire season and only got a hand touch.

Her sister Vicky has been utterly destroyed as a character and the writers seem to have no clue how to write her other than act absurdly evil. There is no threat of her being fired like there was with the Deep Toot scene, in a recent episode she tortures Mr. Turner just as much as she does Timmy and gets away with it.

It's actually very sad how much the show changed and not for the better.

I don't think she's supposed to be as tall as Mr. Turner. Vicky is about the same height difference as Tootie in this picture.

someone needs to post the edits to that screenshot

bump

Bump for deeptoot

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Pretty sure someone has?

not in this thread

>Tootie has been around for almost 20 years and we never get to see her as an adult except in a shitty live action movie played by an actress who didn't even have the right hair color
>Chloe is around for one season and gets an episode where she gets turned into a MILF
According to Hartman, Tootie was modeled after one of his daughters, I'm guessing thats why he never did anything lewd with her. Even the one time she appeared in a swimsuit it was mostly blocked by an innertube.

Literally too pure for this world.

If you can dig up one of the threads for FOP, I think within the last year or so, someone was doing lots of edits. I do distinctly remember someone editing at least one of those Boy Toy screencaps.

At this point, I don't think anything could work, hell, I don't think they could even put Chester and AJ back in (I still miss their dynamic).

>Note to self, never make any character based off of a relative

nuFOP writers would completely fuck up her character if they brought her back. They'd make her a scorned lover trying to kill Chloe or Timmy and she'd get foiled and blasted off Team Rocket style.

Any character that does get brought back and isn't Crocker, Timmy's Dad, or Cosmo the writers just go through the motions with. They even managed to fuck up Poof this season.

kinda funny considering the other character in FOP based partially on his daughter, Carly, has one of the most fanservicey designs in any of Butch's shows

also doesn't really work considering her LA version's design

>So shit he can't even have a pic related for his pic related post
Silly Boco
>How would you write Tootie back into the show anyway? I liked her character a lot but it feels like she has no way to fit into the story anymore.
>Chloe basicaly stole her role as being Timmy's potential friend and female fairy-sharing companion.
Exactly. Tootie would have been a workable fit for that role but it's clear Chloe was just a marketing ploy to keep the show alive. So much so it might as well be her show.

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This show is officially zombie status, right?

Don't take my word for gospel, I'm just guessing. For the sister of a main character it feels like they missed chances to do more with her. At least she didn't turn out like Mabel or something.
Chloe didn't work, but thats because its harder to sell a new character to people, and they didn't really give a good reason for her to have a fairy. Tootie has a built in reason to have a fairy and I've seen some people speculate she had one and lost one but that is never really stated in the >lore of this show anywhere.

Bunsen is a Beast is a shitty show but the character Darcy kind of reminds me of what Tootie could've been otherwise. A geeky and strange sort of ally to the main character. In general people are more receptive to a female sidekick if there isn't forced shipping or GRRRL POWER involved.

Someone did a draw of Chloe's mom in a thread, but I didnt save it, RIP. The parents have great designs

Also:
>>Tootie has been around for almost 20 years and we never get to see her as an adult
That's what she gets for not being a main character I guess. All the stuff like age changing and transformation and body swapping is gonna be main character territorry

>nuFOP writers would completely fuck up her character if they brought her back. They'd make her a scorned lover trying to kill Chloe or Timmy and she'd get foiled and blasted off Team Rocket style.
But that sounds fucking great. FoP fans dont know what they want.

Also, Tootie appeared as far as Season 7 and never got bad, I doubt if she came back they'd mess her up. Anyone who didnt like Vicky in S10 hasnt liked her since season 3 anyways because that's pretty much been her for the past 10 years

>Chloe didn't work
Her intro. maybe. Later episodes more than made up for it

the thing is, Tootie wouldnt work because Chloe is specifically positioned as the opposite of Timmy nand so putting Tootie in that role means changing her. Fans would absolutely lose it

>All the stuff like age changing and transformation and body swapping is gonna be main character territorry
All these things have happened to characters that are incidental tier characters (Chester, Aj, Trixie, Chloe's parents, etc).
>But that sounds fucking great. FoP fans dont know what they want.
Having a good-natured character start to do erratic and villainous shit sounds great? Nah bro that's fanfiction tier writing even by this show's standards.

>Anyone who didnt like Vicky in S10 hasnt liked her since season 3 anyways because that's pretty much been her for the past 10 years
The absurdly evil chain saw swinging bitch thing, since around season 3 or 4 maybe. Her lone significant episode in season 10, she didn't even recognize who Mr. Turner was, showed up to babysit for no money, and yelled "Tell me I'm pretty". Something about her character seemed like the writers did really halfassed research on her.

>Having a good-natured character start to do erratic and villainous shit sounds great?
Are you telling me that Tootie seeing that Timmy's new best friend is a girl wouldnt make her go all Wile E Coyote on her? And you wouldnt want to see it? It's be perfectly in character. We just never had it since the writers never made both Trixie and Tootie be significant in one episode.

>showed up to babysit for no money
It was more about a turf thing, which is a stretch, but understandable.

>and yelled "Tell me I'm pretty"
Wasnt she always a girl that liked it when people gave her flowers and treated her well? Didnt seem out of character to me.

I dunno, since I never hated the direction they took Vicky in, I didnt really have any problems with her. It did feel very slightly off (you're right about the lack of danger she'll be caught anymore) but nothing dealbreaking

>Her intro. maybe. Later episodes more than made up for it
Chloe was alright, but I never really got the feeling that she needed fairies. Her parents are shown as overbearing and protective, but I never got the sense she was being made miserable by them or anything around her. She had fairies just because.

>the thing is, Tootie wouldnt work because Chloe is specifically positioned as the opposite of Timmy nand so putting Tootie in that role means changing her. Fans would absolutely lose it
The polar opposite of Timmy thing is exactly why Chloe having fairies makes no sense. She's not miserable. She's not unpopular. She's not flunking school. She's not bullied, or bothered by anyone. Her parents don't ignore her. Even Crocker loves her, and he hates kids and teaching. I'm surprised Vicky didn't start kissing her feet, instead she had to Jobhan to Chloe in another tired Star Wars fight.

Tootie is unpopular, she's picked on pretty fucking badly by her sister, her parents are too terrified to step in, she loves Timmy but has been shown to get angry at his bullshit at times, she seems smart and inventive though not to the degree of AJ. While she has different interests than Timmy, she does not protest to liking things he likes such as Crimson Chin. This is what makes her interesting, she's a character with lots of personality and potential that was squandered because Hartman is a hack who wanted to spam Crocker and Mr. Turner and other easy joke factories every episode after Marmel left.

Rip in piss, Tootiecucks. Chloe Masterrace!

Wasn't her name Ember McLain?

>Chloe
>fanbase
Pick one

what happened to the dog? wasn't a talking dog in the series?

You're a bad person.

Bill Cipher.

Killed off.

>She's not miserable. She's not unpopular. She's not flunking school. She's not bullied, or bothered by anyone. Her parents don't ignore her. Even Crocker loves her, and he hates kids and teaching.
Exactly. They have different problems. Plus, it felt pretty apparent that her parents were making her miserable when she'd have a panic attack at the thought of disappointing them. Or at the thought of a lot of things really. The show made it clear that despite everything she's pretty mentally unstable. Like in the image in , or pic related

I agree Tootie is more miserable, but that doesnt mean much, she's more miserable than bot of the main characters

I'd say it's pretty split down the middle

>Chester will never come back
>AJ will never come back
>Gay kid with crush on Timmy won't ever come back
>Rich Fairy kid won't come back

Fuck.

we need to share the love though. and band together against trixie fans

>Are you telling me that Tootie seeing that Timmy's new best friend is a girl wouldnt make her go all Wile E Coyote on her? And you wouldnt want to see it? It's be perfectly in character. We just never had it since the writers never made both Trixie and Tootie be significant in one episode
That's a pretty stupid idea. Tootie already faced direct competition from a much prettier girl, Trixie, who Timmy was actually interested in. She showed jealousy but didn't actively tr to kill her.

>I dunno, since I never hated the direction they took Vicky in, I didnt really have any problems with her. It did feel very slightly off (you're right about the lack of danger she'll be caught anymore) but nothing dealbreaking
The direction they took her in was rather than make her interesting, rather than give her actual flaws or some sort of personality like they hinted in with episodes like Snowbound, they just made her a screaming villain who does something bad then gets punished at the end of the episode for it, before they got bored of this charade and removed her from the show completely.

are they just going to introduce new characters each season?

Who is the blonde chick

It's doubtful this show is getting another season considering it was banished to Nicktoons last we heard.
Trixie's character was gutted even worse than Vicky. She exists for porn now and that's it.

>Rich Fairy kid won't come back
He did a season or so ago, and they fucked up his character as well. Gave him new parents that did away with the waist-down only gag and changed their design to something that looked like two characters you'd see standing in the background. Oh, and he had no connection to his fairy anymore either.

Remy came back last season though, so he doesnt count as absentee like the others

>That's a pretty stupid idea.
But Tootie knew he never had a chance? She rarely every showed interest back. Not the same. Anyways, I like it.

>The direction they took her in was rather than make her interesting, rather than give her actual flaws or some sort of personality like they hinted in with episodes like Snowbound, they just made her a screaming villain who does something bad then gets punished at the end of the episode for it, before they got bored of this charade and removed her from the show completely.
That's certainly true, but this happened so early that she's been this way for most of the series. At this point you're taking issue with the show deciding to be a gag show over anything else

One of the writers said her reception was good enough that she'd return next season, if it comes and since Tara Strong said she's working on FoP stuff in a recent interview, a next season just might happen

Sparky was removed specifically because nobody really liked him, including people internal to the show/channel

His character wasnt fucked at all, he acted the same, and of course he doesnt have fairies anymore, he was miserable because he couldnt spend time with his parents, and then was able to.

>One of the writers said her reception was good enough that she'd return next season
Good enough reception = Ratings took a nose dive and the show died with a whimper on Nicktoons?

I saw that interview by the way and Tara just sort of offhandedly mentions FOP in a long list of things she worked on with upcoming episodes. Since there are unaired episodes in the US still she probably just meant that.

Also, Trixie was always shit. That one episode wasnt her character, but an outlier. She always existed as something to start a plot so Timmy could wish up something, and nothing else. Missy showed that her role was not important and anyone could do it

No, the season is over so it cant be any of that. the episodes that are last in the productio order already aired

>Ratings took a nose dive
they were right behind Loud House man. I have no idea why they threw it on Nicktoons, but it wasnt the ratings

>defending the new seasons

the only objectively bad season is season 9

>Gay kid

?

>Also, Trixie was always shit.
I don't get why you hate Trixie so much. Some of her diehard fans did get a little annoying with the "HIDDEN DEFZ!!!" \(that episode was more about establishing in general that girls can like boy things and vice versa, which is also shown in Tootie and Vicky without the spotlight). But she was still pretty funny and it was good to see Timmy succeed with her once and a while. I still prefer Timmy / Tootie but just having one ship that's painfully obvious to be end game from day one just makes the show boring.

The only time Trixie really annoyed me was in that KISS movie for some reason it just felt like they inserted that shipping plotline into that episode without really any need for it to be there.

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I like how they just said fuck Trixie and tootie and made Chloe the new end game.

I dont hate her, I just think she's overrated and not very interesting. Plus, that episode is one of my favourites, I know it was good.

I think she was in Wishology because Tootie was in channel chasers so they threw her a bone. Plus I guess romance arcs are a part of trilogies and it was a parody

I sure hope so, they work the best together desu

Season 8 = Had a lot of crap episodes including that "Timmy stopped time for 50 years because muh fairies" movie.

Season 9 = The dog, and character derailment, and Crocker and Dad spam

Season 10 = The Chloe Crocker and Dad Show with guest appearances by Timmy

Seasons 5-7 had a lot of trash episodes as well.

>mad her the new end game
She got friendzoned hard and most of her episodes aired on a network nobody watches anyway.

Season 8 was great.

The only thing you said that is an objective problem was in 9. Everyone felt derailed in 9. Also in 5 but not as much. I didnt mind Dad in S10 because they made him funny again.

Plus, as I mentioned once (cant remember where), the problem with Dad and Crocker in S9 was that all the episodes were ABOUT them. In S10 they appear in episodes, but not all the episodes have them at the centre of the plot

Why do the big three try to push their side channels so much, and why do they suck at it?

>Why do they push them

Because they think they can pay wall there content, in this day in age.

I'm mad because FoP and Harvey Beaks were the two shows I watched the most on modern Nick and they both got screwed, probably in an effort to make the channel look more apealing

Nickelodeon had a pretty solid line up with Harvey Beaks and Loud House added to the mix. Honestly, I think FOP got the chopping block because it's been mediocre for far too long and has seen an almost non-stop decline in ratings whereas Spongeshit has at least remained a powerhouse.

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Doubt it, pretty much everything has been going down because people are watching tv less. I was curious about how the show was doing so I was checking the ratings for this season on Nick, and they were pretty consistently right behind Loud House, and over most other cartoons on air right now.

I really think they thought shipping off the show to Nicktoons would bring people to the channel

honestly this seems like a really odd reference for FOP to make

like not only was it super dated even when this show came out, its the sort of thing only history nerds or people who were adults in the 70s would understand, like you had to be over 50 to get this joke

Also, they were getting around 1.4/1.5 mill an episode on Nick and around 150K to 250K on Nicktoons.

I have no idea if that is good for Nicktoons

Looking at a quick rundown of the ratings in FOP s10, before it was cast off to Nicktoons it was averaging around 1.3 million viewers. It peaked at 1.6 million, which is a bad day for Loud House. It reached series lows at 1.1 million, which is a bad day for Harvey Beaks. Not really a surprise it got shitcanned.

Chloe's introduction episode for instance premiered right along with the Kid's Choice Awards for that year and got a risible 1.2 million viewers. For a heavily hyped, full length episode! That must've set off alarm bells at Nickelodeon, even Sparky's premiere episode didn't do that poorly.

I'm pretty sure more people than just history nerds and 50 year olds knew about Watergate. I must've been like 12 or so when that movie came out and I understood it completely.

Hey, I was looking for that drawing.

Also 1.1 is a good day for Beaks man. I dunno, I'm not trying to suck the show off or anything, but I always feel the people talking about the ratings are hugely overreacting when they seemed pretty normal to me.

Which was psudeo confirmed when the same guy who worked on FoP in said they considered the ratings good..

I wish this show had gotten to end on a good note with Season 5 instead of being uncancelled and zombified.

Why were my posts deleted?

Should I just start again from the beginning?

A few other people had deleted posts as well. Mostly anyone who posted images in here. None of them were nsfw. A few of the conversations were deleted though as well.

This is the sort of shit there needs to be some sort of better feedback system between the users and mods..

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The janitor is a candy ass bitch.

WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS SHOW I STOPPED WATCHING AFTER THE BABY GOT INTRODUCED

>hes a janitor
>on a Chinese trading card bazaar
>he does it for free
>he deletes half the posts in a friendly conversation for no apparent reason
>he will never have a real job or get a girlfriend
Sad!

They gutted Chester and AJ?

They were easily one of the best supporting characters I've ever seen, for what purpose

What was the in universe explanation for getting rid of Sparky?

>she's not sperging about Timmy

Looks like Tootie but the message clearly said she is not, so we may never know...