>Sheev at 21 years old >Is able to toss his father around and move objects with his will. Was born gifted with the force. Didn't require any training
>Rey at 20 years old >Can mind trick, very gifted with the force. Didn't require training
Once you read the older SW novels (Disney's new timeline makes any book after ROTJ not canon and this doesnt mean the earlier books set 100 + years b4 Phantom Menace cant be canon because they explain so much more about the lore that movies dont), you will understand that Rey is jusy like Sheev and early force users.
The balance of the force means that there must be good and evil existing hence why Kylo exists alongside Rey.
Kevin Thomas
But he sort of just tapped into the dark side and went on a mindless rampage killing his elderly father, mother, and sisters. He had already been in contact with plagueis at that point too. Hell, you wouldn't even need force powers to do that. He's a young man in his physical prime against an old man, not that hard to kill.
Mason Ward
Episode zero movie when?
Mason Jackson
When Disney realizes all their standalone movie line up are shit apart from Obi Wan
Aaron Green
>Disney's new timeline makes any book after ROTJ not canon mfw Shadows is canon
Christopher Bell
According to Lucas balance in the force meant to remove the dark side from it. To him it was like a cancerous tumor that had to be excised to bring balance. Disney seems to have thrown that out the door and instead goes for the ying and yang approach.
Hudson Wilson
FUCK SPOILER I am just up to part where he hurts his father.
And it is explained that as a kid BEFORE Plageuis he was connected to the force with abilities
Mason Hughes
This is true. No one ever says "Light Side" in any Lucas Star Wars films. There is simply the Force, and the Dark Side of the Force, unbalancing it.
Nathan Fisher
All EU books are not canon BUT its silly to make say Cloak of Deception not canon when it explains how Palpatine became involved in the Senate
Jeremiah Taylor
The dark side is just the force but with anger and hatred. First Sith on planet Korriban was a Jedi and became first Sith
Parker Roberts
mfw Kyle Katarn
John Young
At least there were some acceptable losses.
Colton Stewart
>Rey is balanced in the EU
I can't believe that you seriously think that argument helps you
Lincoln Jenkins
this canon bros? good read?
James Parker
That's stupid. You can't have a balance between two things by getting rid of one thing. Then you just have dominance, which is the opposite of balance. If the dark side is bad, don't call it balance. Call it something else. This is the ONE THING Disney is getting right.
In fact Lucas realized this mistake in the prequels which is why he made the Jedi act like dogmatic assholes whose belief in the prophecy was that it would allow them to triumph over their ancient enemy, the Sith. Luke was supposed to be the bridge between the two sides of the force as he was a Jedi and primarily used the light, but was tempted by the dark side and didn't fear it. He was supposed to master both. That's what bringing balance means.
Fuck.
Joshua Jenkins
AFFLECK AS KATARN WHEN. Just re write his story that he was doing something else while Jyn stole the plans
Isaiah Butler
Dark Lords of the Sith and Darth Plageuis = amazing read. Listen to the audiobooks
Henry Parker
>tfw when the book starts to cover TPM events I actually wasn't expecting that
Logan Jackson
Honestly, the ying and yang concept is probably the lowest form of philosophy and you won't find any philosopher today that extols it's virtue.
Nolan White
balance is emotional balance. stoicism and peace, not passion and conflict.
Wyatt Robinson
Just have Katarns story be about the Death Star II plans instead, yeah they were leaked. But you could still make a decent movie about Kyle and his Bothan team stealing those plans
Asher Ortiz
The dark side is an imbalancing force. The concept isn't rocket science.
Levi Edwards
But for me, it's Rogue Planet
Nathan Garcia
fucking loved this game
Leo Lewis
Nigger I don't care about that. If you're going to use it as the basis, then having a strictly good vs. evil outlook is retarded. It's not balance, and the dark side is still a part of the force, but it's one fueled by aggression and passion, which are still aspects of natural life. That's why both the Jedi and Sith are wrong: they put all their faith into only one side of the force instead of using both. There is no light side or dark side. There is only the force.
But it should have been Luke to realize this, not Rey. Luke was set up as the perfect inheritor: neither a true Jedi or Sith, he could walk the line between both sides. That's why he dressed in all black and used a synthetic crystal in his lightsaber. That's why in the EU his Jedi temple allowed its students to break tradition and marry and fuck and do all that fun shit that the Jedi feared were paths to the dark side.
Wyatt Lewis
It's a better book
Kayden Rogers
It's still a part of the force. It exists naturally. You're being dumb.
wewlad no it's not. It's literally the two sides of the force: light and dark. Also, you can't be emotionally balanced by repressing your emotions. That makes you unbalanced. Just as you can't become a slave to your emotions and let them rule you. The Golden Mean, user.
Ryan Mitchell
>There is no light side or dark side. There is only the force.
That's the point you idiot. There is no light side there is just the Force. Where in the OT or the PT did they ever use the term light side.
Noah Ortiz
This is like talking to an autistic toddler.
Angel Taylor
Oh fuck off. The Last Jedi is the first good Star Wars movie in 30 years.
Lots of pacing issues and plot holes, plus character inconsistencies between various points in their character arcs, keep it from being great. I'm pretty sure you can cut the entire Canto Bight arc from the film and it'd be not only better, but no more confusing for the omission.
But it's still a really good film. The music and visuals are great, probably because this is the first Star Wars by an actually skilled director since George replaced all the talented people who worked on the OT. The core emotional arc between Rey, Kylo, and Luke works really well and everyone involved gives great performances. The action is really fun when it counts, like the opening with Poe or Luke's short but sweet duel with Kylo, despite the pacing dragging a lot during the second act.
Overall, I rate 95/100 - better than anything *since* the OT, but weighed down by too many plot and pacing problems to be on the level of the originals.
Anthony Williams
If there's a dark side then by necessity there must also be a non-dark side i.e. light side. They never say it because it's unnecessary. Point is shutting off yourself from either side is bad, and balance can only be achieved by using both.
Brandon Stewart
Potential near equal to Anakin's CoD doesn't even affect post RotJ stories so why is it non canon?
Carson Thompson
I never had a chance to read it. Is there a website where I can read it?
Nolan Bell
Go to bed Rian
Nathaniel Turner
>If there's a dark side then by necessity there must also be a non-dark side i.e. light side
No it doesn't mean that what so ever.
Caleb Jones
nice ad hom my dude
The OT was dumb and got it wrong. I'm sorry. Lucas realized this which is why he tried to fix it with the PT by making the Jedi a bunch of dogmatic fuckheads. Now Disney is borrowing from the EU and will make it "canon" to milk shekels from idiots.
Evan Foster
>not great >95/100
nice bait though
Colton Edwards
I read that book as a kid. Holy god did it suck ass.
Luis Perry
Nigger that's exactly what it means. You have the dark side and the not-dark side. It doesn't have to be called the light side, but that's essentially with it is. Jedi use it, and Sith use dark. Both are unbalanced. That's why the Jedi and Sith both failed.
Liam Evans
Sheev was stronger Bane. Just deal with it.
Samuel Murphy
>having this shitty of taste I feel bad for you but probably worse for the people who have to be around you user, good luck
Christopher Myers
Sheev was only so strong because of Bane's reforms to the Sith.
Evan Rivera
And he perished because he didn't uphold them, ironic.
Brayden Bennett
>ironic
John Robinson
>The balance of the force means that there must be good and evil existing
Bentley Roberts
>The music and visuals are great TLJ has some of the best SW visuals I agree but it by far has the worst music. Williams went to sleep
Zachary Torres
These fucking images, my sides.
Carson Brooks
>Comparing expanded universe comics and books to the main movies
Parker Morris
>Not comparing them If you want a turn off your brain that TLJ is then so be it but the novels give you all the facts of how the Sith began, Darth Bane's rule of 2, creation of Anakin.
I dont get how Disney would make all important stuff not canon
Xavier Allen
This way they can sell another book on Palpatine's early years but this time by someone like acclaimed author Chuck Wendig.
Joseph Cox
well, lucas did cgi his ship into ANH. whats the name of his ship again?
the crows cloaca or something?
Jaxson Baker
There must be light and dark, yes. The dark side is only "evil" if you go full-blown Sith.
Noah Richardson
>ying and yang bone apple tea
Benjamin Russell
There's a lot of dumb stuff in the EU. People tend to forget that. There's good there too but a lot of bad. The ST is all bad.
Cooper Fisher
I would like to see a Princess Leia movie
Christopher Hughes
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Angel Evans
Who wins?
Kevin Johnson
How do you not answer one fucking question retard
Dylan Sullivan
I like Disney's interpretation because it puts some sense to how the Jedi could at their most powerful, get so fucking clowned by Sidious.
Camden Adams
>Rey is jusy like Sheev and early force users
That the grand design.TFA and TLJ are sort of reboot of Star Wars.
Ethan Gutierrez
>95/100 its okay Wew lad
Jason Morales
He's a villain, you asshole. And one whose power is already established as being enormous. And he'd been using the force on purpose and self-training for most of his life at that point. And had been in close contact with Plagueis for months. And was using said power in a random uncontrolled outburst kind of manner.
Keep reaching, you Rey apologists are pathetic, she is the most jarring protag in blockbuster fiction since Arnold Schwazenegger's adaptation of Julius Caesar.
Noah Long
They threw everything out, not just after RotJ, so no, it's a "Legends" book. But who gives a shit what Disney says is canon when their movies are so horrible.
John Kelly
As big of a Mary Sue as Rey. I'm glad he's still not canon.