Why did Anakin betray the Jedi?

Why did Anakin betray the Jedi?

From Anakin's point of view, the Jedi betrayed him.

to balance the force. there were way to many fucking jedi for two sith to fight.

>as if the lgbt rights are an sjw issue
Uh

we should just be able to kill soyboy faggots on sight amirite

Because the force is female

there is nothing wrong with enjoying boipucci

Because he couldn't get rid of personal attachments. He was still attached to his mother and watched her die in his arms. When he began having visions of Padme, the woman he loved, dying he sought out a way to prevent this. Sidious took advantage of this weakness by giving him promises that the Dark Side could give him the power to keep her from dying. He threw away everything to try and save the person he loved and in the end that is what ended up killing her.

people voted for trump to protect lgbt (see: orlando massacre)

anakin betrayed the jedi to fit the plot

because the script said so

Based Sheev >>>>>>>>> Boss Nass >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Jedi Order

Because he could see through the lies.

>following FAS thots on twitter

user, stop.

To save his wife.

To save billions

Hitler was right

Jedi were plotting to take over a democratic elected (by the Senate) Chancellor to impose their religiolous version of the Republic (or whatever bullshit the Jedi's Council had in mind).
I stand with the Chancellor and the Senate like every good roman citizen should do.
These jedi looks a lot like the elfs to me. Not good.

Why don't you watch the three fucking movies that answer that question?

He knew that they were soon going to be controlled by incompetent women so he bailed before watching his favorite thing get ruined.

/tg/ pls

Of course it's a SJW issue. They already had civil unions, what more do they want?
Fags just want special preferred treatment now, some of them even want to force religious people to marry them.
Not Jews or Muslims though, that would be infringing on their culture, kek

to save the 6 trillion

The Jedi took children and brainwashed them.
The Jedi inserted themselves into politics.
It was treason
They wanted to murder his friend Sheev
They wanted to deny him love
Etc

>To save his waifu
>To ensure peace in the Galaxy
>To get more power
A pinch of each one.

Because the OP really just wanted to make a Sup Forumsbait thread

Anakin tells Yoda about his premonition and his response is basically "dump her." In contrast Sheev tells Anakin what he wants to hear, that there is a way to save Padme.

Combine this with the fact that the Jedi Council were acting shady and notice both Mace Windu and Sheev use the line "too dangerous to keep alive." To Anakin this makes it look like both sides are as bad as the other. With both options being bad, the obvious choice for Anakin was the side that told him he could save his wife.

here's my thing....if jedi aren't supposed to love or feel attachment. why does obi wan literally say "you were my brother....i loved you". is that not also a path to the dark side? its only sexual love? but then his mom...so....what???

I'm going to marry June!

I hope you're a BASED black guy, then.

What rights don't lgbt have again? And no, stopping people from laughing at you because you're a tranny isn't a right, sweetie.

I mean she's not wrong.

>le quirky skeptic girl

>marrying a bald chick

Audible kek

Why is every alt right female a slave to the BBC?

Why do (((Swaglord))) and (((Kushner))) let threads like this stay up for hours?

Here's the line:

Not SJW rights issue:
>L
>G
>B
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SJW rights issue:
>T

These are the people who complain about Sup Forums

one word: CAN'T COMPETE

Nah B should be a part of SJW rights issues as well.

What the fuck is even a bisexual right? And Transgenderism is a mental issue and not a proper 'right' category so they can fuck off with that too.

obiwan had a bit of a rebel streak in his own right and never did everything by the books. i think his emotional attachments to quigon and anakin can be an element of that.

He was too emotional from the get-go, also the jedi basically keeping him in the dark all the time didn't help him one bit.

>Nah B should be a part of SJW rights issues as well.
No.
>What the fuck is even a bisexual right?
The right to property and to make contracts for shared property with other individuals, i.e., American citizens at liberty to join in marriage. If straight people can enjoy shared property rights with the opposite sex and gay people can enjoy shared property rights with the same sex, bisexual people should be able to enjoy shared property rights with either sex. That's the libertarian stance and it's consistent with the law and Constitution as decided by the Supreme Court. Property and health (medical rights) are really the only intersection sexuality even has with politics. Workforce protections cover them all under the banner of sexual preference.
>And Transgenderism is a mental issue and not a proper 'right' category
Yes, correct. You'll notice this mental health issue has nothing at all to do with the right to property ownership or the ability to make contracts.

You forgot the P

Being in a gay relationship is receiving gay rights. There is no reason to call it a bisexual right. It's either gay or straight. If you're in a gay relationship, it's a gay right, if you're in a straight relationship it's a straight right. There is no such thing as a bisexual right. There would be no reason to differentiate gay/bi in a gay relationship, and no reason to differentiate straight/bi in a straight relationship.

Transgenderism shouldn't be noticed by any official government documentation because it is a mental issue, it is not real. They should not be coddled and instead should be put into therapy.

Are you American? You seem confused and your English is shaky.

The Supreme Court didn't rule that gay people specifically have the right to gay marriage. It ruled that American citizens have the right to enter into binding, legal marriage contracts with other consenting, eligible individuals regardless of sex. This ruling expanded the rights of all people, gay, straight, and bi, though in practice that expansion will only be utilized by the gay and bi people. If a straight guy wanted to marry another straight guy, the courts say they're welcome to. There's no sexuality test required to get a marriage license.

You can't cut out bi people from consideration of property rights if you're going to talk about gay people. They're baked into the equation by definition.

Trans people are not. They are ill and deserving of compassion and treatment.

I didn't. P just means "I'm bi and also a special snowflake that feels I need my own special designation that doesn't actually mean anything different."

Dude, what I'm saying is.

Bi has no real legal weight. There is no such thing as a bisexual relationship. It's either gay or straight.
I completely understand what you're saying, but there is no such thing as a bisexual relationship. It's just to make people feel more special. It's a gay or straight relationship.


Bisexual people in a gay relationship receive gay rights, and bisexual people in a straight relationship receive straight rights. There is 0 reason to differentiate these rights based on people's feelings. Even if these people are bisexual they are in a gay or straight relationship. Bisexual rights are not a thing.

Nice try el faggito

>Bisexual rights are not a thing
Neither are straight rights. Neither are gay rights. You're still confused. There is no such thing as a gay right. Nor a straight right. You're breaking rights down into categories that, legally speaking, do not exist.

I grouped LGB together because people in these categories were previously cut out from entering into marriage contracts (which are fundamentally property contracts) with those of their choosing, which arbitrarily disadvantaged them in the market place relative to their straight peers. The Supreme Court agreed and ruled that the right to enter into marriage is not a question of sex or sexuality at all, thus enabling people to enter into same-sex marriages, putting LGB people and straight people on equal footing in the market by removing a regulation that benefited one group at the expense of the other. Questions of property, the last remaining metaphysical right according to paleoconservative thinkers like Richard Wagner, are not questions of SJW meme rights. They are fundamental.

It should be obvious now why T doesn't belong grouped with the others, whereas B does belong.

AS is a white Canuck tho

There is no such thing as a gay right? Maybe not now in the US for marriage, but yes there most certainly is in the majority of the planet.

That is why Bisexual rights are an SJW right. Bisexual people have 'rights' determinant of the relationship they are currently taking place in. In any other actual country where people struggle for rights, bisexual rights fundamentally do not make sense. Because if they are in a straight relationship then they have access to all the rights of a straight person. It's a stupid concept to consider them their own group. Because they aren't.

You're completely right, if we're talking strictly about the American system. But that's not what I mean.

Her leaked nudes make her look way better with clothing on, somehow.

>as if lgbt rights is an sjw thing
it. literally. is.

If disney knew what they were doing theyd be moving towards kylo and Rey ending up together at the head of a new jedi order. The order should accept attachments on the basis that denouncing them as they once did lead to tensions and hypocrisies

"conservative" women are bigger coalburners than liberal women that's a fact

>master yoda i had a dream that padme is going to die what should i do
>just so you know the last time i had a dream someone was going to die my mother was raped and killed by sand people
>just let her die lol
Gee I wonder.

So why does Sup Forums hate gays again?

difference between the T and the rest of the letters is that one group has the courage to accept who they are and the other are delusional children who think life is like a skyrim character creator screen.

Did I travel back to junior high? Are you going to claim that bisexuals should just "choose" and be done with it next?

>If disney knew what they were doing theyd be moving towards kylo and Rey ending up together at the head of a new jedi order. The order should accept attachments on the basis that denouncing them as they once did lead to tensions and hypocrisies

That sounds familiar...

another reason why government is shit at running things and should get out of marriage business all together

But it was never wrong for Anakin to have these feelings in the first place. The Jedi made him think he was, and made him conflicted. They ignored his pleas for help which is why when Palpatine said he could help him, Anakin joined him and became Vader.

It should have been Luke to do it, but Disney fucked everything up and now it has to be Rey and Kylo.

Are you really this dense?

No. I'm not saying it's a choice to be attracted to either sex. I'm saying it's a choice to be in a relationship with them. And upon choosing to enter a same sex relationship you're choosing to receive gay rights.

Do you not understand? There is no way a bisexual person can receive their own rights because there is only TWO types of relationships, gay or straight. Bisexual people fighting for gay rights is splitting hairs. They are people in gay relationships fighting for gay rights. That's it.

This is exactly why it's an SJW issue. In no actual country with actual oppression would there be a need to split hairs for 'muh bisexuals'.

I can't even imagine how badly you must smell.

Or we could just ignore Disney Wars. Luke still established the new Jedi, had a smoking hot wife, and became the strongest Jedi who ever lived. Happy end.

thanks for the concession faggot.

>It's a stupid concept to consider them their own group
But they're a discrete group, in terms of their sexual behavior. Behavioral scientists have recognized B as it's own thing going back to the 1800s.

I'm not sure what your hang up is. Nobody is arguing for "bisexual rights." My post, which you replied to, said questions of rights pertaining to LGB people *as a group* are legitimate, unlike SJW meming about T. You replied autistically that B shouldn't be treated as it's own thing. Well, I didn't do that, so what is your problem?

You keep arguing that any right extended to straight people and gay people will, automatically, also be extended de facto to bi people. Yes, exactly, which is why B does belong with LG, unlike T. You're defeating your own argument.

Nowhere in the world is there such a thing as a gay right. Rights belong to citizens. Every legislature extends rights to its citizenry and outlines what is and isn't lawful. However, that vision of the ideal citizen may exclude certain kinds of people, such as gay or bi people, and that exclusion generates challenges to the law. In every case, the goal of these challenges is to extend that ideal to include gay and bi people, not to create second and third ideals with different, competing sets of rights. That's nonsensical. No country on the planet operates that way.

no, it's all SJW shit

I don't know what else you want me to say, dude. You're just being an autistic UM ACHKTUALLY faggot, its embarrassing.

It's literally splitting hairs. Anything past Lesbian/Gay rights is SJW nonsense that they are trying to normalize and you're buying into it.


What's embarrassing is you buying into this shit.

I never said it was wrong for Anakin to have those feelings. It was him having those feelings that let Sidious seduce him to the Dark Side just as much as it was the Jedi code being flawed in that regard. The Jedi failed Anakin because they were so wrapped up with their own self-righteous crap. That's why he turned and destroyed them. Almost like the Force was attempting to balance itself or something through Anakin...

>no country on earth has different rights for gay people

nigga what? Are you 10? There was literally different rights based on being gay and straight a few years ago in the US alone.

It is. Faggots and trannies are obnoxious subversives trying to defile your children and overrepresented in media.

Almost reminds me of another group...

I agree with the emotion behind this idea, but there's really no way to divorce property from law and there's no way to enforce law without some form of government. I'm not an anarchist. Marriage only exists where contracts exist, and contracts are only possible in a society where they can be enforced by law. "Take government out of marriage" is nonsensical. Marriage is a product of government.

It's literally what the whole fucking trilogy focused on. Are you seriously asking this?

The only person splitting hairs is you, dude. Nobody is going to take someone seriously who talks about SJWs "normalizing" treatment of bisexuals.

>as if lgbt rights is a thing
fixed it

>June thread
>Nobody is posting June

:/

Marriage should have remained a religious thing and the government should have only gotten involved in civil unions.

lol implying marriages were about religious practices and not about property and inheritance

How's high school?
>There was literally different rights based on being gay and straight a few years ago in the US alone.
This is completely made up. You're confused because you're young and uninformed.

The US has never had different rights for gay and straight people. An example of such a setup would be the Jim Crow South, which absolutely did provide different sets of rights for people based on their race. This has never happened based on sexuality in America.

Gay people had the exact same equal right as straight people: the liberty to enter into marriage contracts with individuals of the opposite sex. Nothing was stopping a gay man from marrying a woman. He had the same right to do so as a straight man.

Obviously, while these groups enjoyed the same equal right, the articulation of that right was such that it disadvantaged one group. The Supreme Court corrected that by clarifying the nature of the right that was shared equally by all. It didn't create a new right for a certain group; it modified the legal view of the existing right for everyone.

Again
>straight people are one class with certain rights and gay people are a different class with different rights
Nowhere in Earth is there a government that operates this way. There are governments that persecute gay behavior, no doubt, but no government provides a distinct set of rights specifically to gay people.

>That spoiler
Indeed. You'll also note that, by introducing the Church, you've introduced a governing body that creates, enacts, and enforces laws and punishes the breaking of those laws. Like I said, there needs to be an authority and arbiter for the idea of marriage to even be possible.

gays inherit aids

>The US has never had different rights for gay and straight people.
I'm fairly certain there were laws against openly practicing homosexuals in several states. I know for a fact it was illegal in Canada.

that wasnt a bad thing though

Y-you guys aren't actually homophobic, right? It's just a meme yeah?

These laws applied equally to gay and straight individuals.

Oh come on, that's just being obtuse. Jailing openly practicing homosexuals applied to straight people? Give me a break.

jail? why not execution. be done with the faggots

Why do you newfags hate lesbian porn so much? Thats gay

>jail? why not execution. be done with the faggots

Sup Forums became filled with christian conservatives and the ironic homophobia is slowly becoming genuine.

I hate this bitch

Behavior is criminalized in some cases, not sexual orientation. You're thinking of sodomy laws and such, which absolutely apply to straight people as well.

You're arguing that the US had a legal caste system where straight and gay people were in separate castes with separate rights. This literally never happened, not in the US, not anywhere else.

That user who called you a liberal shill? He's a 49 year old lady from California.

>t. faggot
You have to go back.

I love Trumpers being brought down a peg. All it takes is a picture of his average supporter lmao

thats a nice hat

I can't even imagine how badly you must smell

Yes, because you have to be an SJW to respect peoples rights.

You guys I found him