You have the chance to pitch your cartoon but ONLY to one of these two channels. Sorry, no Netflix, no DisneyTV...

You have the chance to pitch your cartoon but ONLY to one of these two channels. Sorry, no Netflix, no DisneyTV, no Kickstarter.

Which do you choose?

Nickelodeon, since they would AT LEAST attempt to look at the project to see if their audience would like it.

CN, they could use more Ren and Stimpy-esque cartoons these days

CN by a longshot. Nickelodeon is holding on tight to Spongebob and whatever nostalgia the now 80/90s adults are throwing money at.

CN, as cancerous as some of its cartoons are, would probably care more to include you.

But mostly on two conditions:
>More Tooncity-esque bumpers
>the purging of Teen Titans Go

CN, it's always been CN

dude, Nickelodeon would cancel it after it does not get SpongeBob level ratings right at the premiere

Cartoon Network
even tho they would barely air it, at least they would give it enough exposure for it to potentially get a following on their streaming app

Then I would make a show that would pander Nick's guidelines while also make larger audiences enjoy it.

CN on the other hand will outright destroy any show that doesn't act like TTG.

I start a webcomic instead.

a reminder that Harvey Beaks is being canceled while Steven Universe is at it's 5th season

good luck being noticed
you won't

Harvey Beaks follows Nickelodeon's guidelines to a T while CartoonNetwork was ballsy enough to keep renewing Uncle Grandpa, Clarence, and greenlight Mighty Magiswords which are all horrible in the ratings.

Why not just take it a step further and make a Let's Play if you really wanted to get lost in a sea of people.

unlike Nickelodeon, CN pays attention to how their shows are doing in streaming
smart thing, seeing how traditional TV is as good as dead

just make it a weekly fruit basket delivery subscription service

They also kill their premiere ratings in favor of trying to push their streaming app which in turn just pushes for people uploading the episodes online rather than trying to smartly balance out the two.

sa said, streaming is the future

Yeah, assuming people actually use the streaming service rather than having one person use it and upload for 10,000 other people.

So far, all they're doing is losing out on premiere ratings which hurts their channel that they still have to maintain and not getting many people to use their streaming service, instead just waiting for early episode releases to be put up online, which happens usually within a few hours.

mind you, that person would have uploaded it regardless with the exact same results if it were on TV

people do the same shit with Netflix shows, and yet they aren't going bankrupt

Nick. I'd still try Nick before CN. With CN, you'll have to worry about your show being leaked/aired during a dead hour/shown only once a month in bomb format/or just replaced by a TTG or Gumball marathon

Nick would at least try and showcase the show during a reasonable hour and if it's as successful as the Sponge or TLH then you're pretty much set. I'll also try and get some sort of merchandise deal out of this. Make my show as Merch-able as possible.

>if it's as successful as the Sponge or TLH
Otherwise it will be set off to Nicktoons, and canceled after 2 seasons at most
Also fair chance the last several episodes will never air or be released to the public in any way or form (looks at ChalkZone)

German Nickelodeon. My pitch would be more action-heavy and German Nickelodeon is focusing on this stuff. Since you you can't aniamte in Germany, I would outsource it to France, turning it into a Franco-Germanic thing. Since it's Franco-Germanic, both France and Germany would propably invest a little bit into this as they like to invest into French-Germanic stuff to strenghten the relationship between both nations.

This stuff can't be pulled off with CN as CN is completly irrelevant around here outside of Gumball and PPG, so there is that

Netflix got enough subscribers just streaming other shows before they moved on to original content and now just have a huge hold on the streaming industry as a whole.

Yeah, but at least you had those initial viewers tuning in. By releasing the episode early online and often doing it unannounced, you get people finding out that new SU episodes have been released because they found them on YouTube first. No advertising, pushing for their service by sacrificing another platform, and giving people zero reason to use both.

The way they're going about this is just all wrong. It'd be like Disney releasing their movies on iTunes a week before they were released in theaters.

Does Nickelodeon Germany make it's own original content? I do know that Cartoon Network UK, France, Latin America,India, Australia, and Asia do produce their own shows from time to time

the alternative is going the Nick route and just cancel any show that does not make top ratings

Apparently the reason CN shows that are not TTG or Gumball were not already canceled is because they were able to at least get enough views on streaming

>the alternative is going the Nick route and just cancel any show that does not make top ratings
Just because they do one aspect poorly doesn't mean they need to go around to the other end of the spectrum of "bad ideas". That isn't how it works.

but that is how everyone else is doing it
The Disney Channel seems to only ever air live-action sitcoms anymore, while Disney XD shows rarely last longer than 2 seasons

there must be a reason for this

Two seasons is the limit for Nick and Disney to determine whether or not the show has traction. That isn't how CartoonNetwork functions, but it's how the other two do. And for Disney, it's not even dealt that way all the time. Star Vs has been renewed for four seasons, they wanted to have three seasons for Gravity Falls but Alex said no, Pickle and Peanut is getting three seasons.

Nick and Disney also make tons of live-action shows because they're cheap but when CN did that, everyone flipped out, so it's a good thing they don't follow what everyone else does.

CN just six months ago was able to get 1.5 to 2 mil in ratings for their best shows and now they've dwindled to under a mil consistently across the board. Even if they're getting good numbers in streams, unless they plan on shutting down their channel altogether, it's not a good idea to sacrifice their channels ratings in favor of their stream. It's only going to further push them not giving a shit about their schedule and airing TTG + Diary of a Wimpy Kid non-stop. They've already gotten the worse they can by having a Gumball only marathon on Mothers Day simply because it's their second most popular show. If TTG had a mom character, they wouldn't even fucking bother.

They could have had Regular Show episodes with moms, Adventure Time special with Marceline's mom, Clarence episodes that focus on the mom, SU episodes about Rose. Instead, just lazily air Gumball all day. They really don't seem to give a shit about their channel and only focus on streams and app games when there's no real reason for them to not put effort in both.

They had a life-action show running but it was cancelled. They would propably make some if they got better ratings and if the government would actually invest into cartoons. Convincing them that this is supposed to boost Franco-Germanic relationship is the only way you could even hope to get funds for cartoons. You can pull off more things successfully in German (childrens) Television and German Nickelodeon has some unusual competition for a childrens TV channel so they can't just copy everything from America, they need to air different stuff.

>That off model Jenny

>but when CN did that, everyone flipped out
Let's be real here, nearly all of them sucked. No CN live action show could even hold a candle to That's so Raven or Drake and Josh. Even the one's they have now are more decent than the shlock CN aired.

>Star Vs has been renewed for four seasons
WTF? That show just finished season 2 a while ago and they went and renewed it for season 4 already? Is it really getting that much views?

It's the only current Disney cartoon that's popular, since Gravity Falls and Wander died. It's getting tons of recognition online and everyone seems to rely on the VOD service for it, which gives Disney a chance for it to make the show renewed quickly.

Nickelodeon canceled Harvey beaks cause it wasn't popular anymore. As much I love HB, this was going to happed eventually.

You think your cartoon idea is hot enough that the execs would humor the notion of you giving them these sorts of conditions? That's some impressive confidence, user. To put it lightly.