"Well, fanfiction might be terrible most of the time, but X is pretty good"

>"Well, fanfiction might be terrible most of the time, but X is pretty good"

Post Sup Forums opinions that make you violently ill.

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But you're wrong, faggot. There's a reasonable amount of good fapfics out there. How hard it is to find them is a whole other issue.

Besides the lines between canon and fanon have really been blurred when it comes to a lot of properties. It's very arbitrary to have some faggot editor who doesn't even like the comic to decide what will be canon solely by what he thinks will sell more copies.

Fapfics are not fanfiction. They're porn parodies featuring characters that make your dick feel funny.

>Besides the lines between canon and fanon have really been blurred when it comes to a lot of properties
>this is what fanfiction authors believe

Half life: Full Life Consequences and DOOM: Repercussions of Evil are fucking national treasures you mong

>Character A doesn't top, he takes it up the ass

>Sup Forums sucks
>why
>proceeds to point out various problems that show up on most popular boards while acting like it only happens on Sup Forums.

>hydra cap is good writing

did nothing wrong thread.

Those types of falsely disguised opinion threads are far too prevalent.

Inversely
>Hydra Cap is bad writing because muh racism

>faggot wrote stories about his favorite character for fun
>faggot got employed by the company and is now writing these stories for money
>some of those stories are chosen by an asshole editor to go into print
You're literally letting a single person, who has nothing to do with the creative process, decide what is officially canon.

Hills of Moonlight by Saddletank is a Castle in the Sky fanfic and is literally the only fanfic I truly enjoyed beyond nostalgia and and fanservice.

The Characters are well expanded on, the love scenes are beautiful, a I truly believe it is wasted as a fanfiction.

said nobody on Sup Forums ever

But he clearly has everything to do with the creative process, because he's gatekeeping to preserve the canon according to what he believes should be the story's vision.

Also, I'm not talking about capeshit. Superhero stories have been a cesspool of non-canon spinoffs for decades now.

From The Desk of Amanda Waller is/was fucking good. Shame that Livejournal turned to crap.

What is Dante's Inferno, but as really old self insert fanfiction where he hangs out with his favorite characters.

That's my favorite argument.

>Duuuude the Aeneid was tooootallly fanfiction!
>that means Harry Potter And The Methods Of Rationality is super good and just as valid
>never mind the complete difference in culture and understanding of ownership regarding stories
>Dante's Inferno's just fanwank guys xD

>never mind the complete difference in culture and understanding of ownership regarding stories

Could you elaborate? Why does ownership of stories matter?

Storytelling was a completely different beast in the 1300s. That should be readily apparent. Authors used other figures, historical, mythological, and featured in other works, without that work being legitimately derivative.

It's not fanfiction, it's what they were raised to understand as a valid method of writing.

That doesn't mean it isn't fanfiction. It just means they were raised learning that fanfiction was a valid means of storytelling.

It actually does mean it isn't fanfiction, because it's completely different from fanfiction in scope, quality, and intent.

Fanfiction is a contemporary idea that requires conscious effort to create.

regardless of how it becomes canon, it's still canon

The Iliad is centuries older than the Eneid, like the Bible is centuries older than Dante's Inferno.

There is a difference between a fanfiction and writing something that feature common domain characters. Or do you think that everything ever that features mythological gods is a fanfiction?

>scope, quality, and intent

I assume by scope you mean word count? If so, there are some fucking long fanfics out there(if that isn't what you mean enlighten me), In terms of quality, don't pretend everything they wrote was gold. All the shit stories either noone talks about or weren't saved. What do you mean by intent and that its contemporary? What do you define as fanfiction?

This makes me sick:
>"Fanfiction makes me sick"

I suppose that's true,. What about Sherlock Holmes? Quite a lot of those books were fanfiction being wrote as the author was still alive. A lot of them are considered literary classics still.

Fanfictions aren't published by their nature.

No, not word count you fucking nonce. Ambition, value, meaning. These are things that fanfiction inherently lacks.

Everything they wrote wasn't gold, but they have, in fact, wrote enduring classics that have survived centuries, or, in The Aeneid's case, millennia.

Fanfiction is written with the intent of being fanfiction. People who write it are aware of what fanfiction is, and they create it. Virgil did not create fanfiction, he created art utilizing characters that existed within the public consciousness for hundreds of years.

And what is so despicable about someone knowingly writing fanfiction? What makes it so inherently valueless? The way I see it is that certain writers aren't necessarily good at worldbuilding, so they use someone else's as a crutch. That doesn't diminish any value of what is there. Sure it has less value that something entirely original, but it doesn't discredit the entire work.

>Quite a lot of those books were fanfiction

You are using the term "fanfiction" for every work of fiction that doesn't contain purely original characters.

It's not. There is a difference between a professional author writing a work that is going to be published that contain already existing characters and something that is explicitly created as an hobby by someone that like an already existing work and decided to write his take on it.

It's the same difference between someone drawing the Mona Lisa with moustaches on his notebook and Leonardo da Vinci painting the Baptism of Christ, a scene from the Bible.

Nobody said that fanfiction is despicable or valueless by its nature except you.

Fanfiction is despicable or valueless because 99,99999999% of it is absolute shit, and the rest that could be actually good it's a niche (fanwork) that require being part of another niche (the fandom) to actually be enjoyed, wich makes it automatically out of any sort of mainstream or general public appreciation.

Besides the posts dicking about fanfics and whatnot
> The massively one sided character is supposed to be the best one

Well what makes it fanfiction then? Because the majority of fanfiction that is on fanfiction.net literally as you've described.

>something that is explicitly created as an hobby by someone that like an already existing work and decided to write his take on it.

>there are not good fanfics
Your opinions make me violently ill

>the majority of fanfiction that is on fanfiction.net literally as you've described.

Well yes, I was describing fanfiction, so it's reasonable that fanfiction is literally what I described.

Reading compresion, amirite?

What is the best fan-fiction ever written?

90% of x is shit, still means 10% isn't shit.

But, fuck it, what do you think that comics today are, except for fanfics by people who get paid for it? James Roberts is a huge Transformers fan. James Gunn has been reading comics all his life, Grant Morrison I'm halfway convinced stepped out of the comic book pages directly. The only difference between a fanfiction writer and an official author is a paycheck. And in order to get good enough to become the latter, you have to start out as the former. And even with that paycheck, you might still be producing shit (looking at you, Bendis and Slott).

It isn't the best but it's the most famous

Watchmen, duh.

>fapping to fanfiction
>when there's an infinite amount of rule 34

Idk I've read a few good fanmade webcomics.

Book of Mormon

Dante's Inferno. Literally Dante imagining what if he and Virgil were best friends on a tour of Hell.

Alternatively, whatever the good Sherlock Holmes stories that weren't done by the original author back in the day, since those were literally fan fiction that were just sold in stores.

Close
John Milton's Paradise Lost

>post what triggers you and makes you scream and cry claiming the board should pander to your opinions and tastes.

Maybe the anime/vomit chan reaction image should have told me right away this was a low-quality post, but really now, do other people's opinions really bother you that much? Does the concept of people who don't agree with you on everything being on Sup Forums really get your goat this terribly? Do want some sort of echo chamber? It's kinda sad that overly triggered ninnies have come to run this site. I mean shit man, I don't even totally disagree with you, but the fact that you can't let someone else have their opinion and that it makes you "physically Ill" hearing it, is just pathetic.

>HarleyIvy is a shit/trash/horrible ship

I know you faggots have to be all contrarian and shit, but this is one of the stupidest, most retarded shit Ive read on this board. Just because it's more popular than before it's suddenly shit in your eyes.

Damn I hate you all for being so utterly wrong

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>Read comic
>Enjoy the characters and stories
>New writer comes in
>Characters make complete unexpected decsions and actions that have no recongziable pattern based on previous history and build up
>New self inserts that can do no wrong start popping up
>But its ok because the editors were asleep at wheel.

With the way how marvel recruits, it might as well be.

Yeah, The Force Awakens is shit

I like this post

>"This subject is honorary Sup Forums." [sic] t. some faggot
Oy fuck off.

"This is [female character], say something nice about her"
Makes me want to find the cure for autism every time, because mine acts up like fuck.

Why hello newfag. For those of us not still in school those honorary shows were ones played alongside other cartoons in our childhoods.

As one of the few fans left of Regular Show, you've got my attention

user, have a (you) for making a based post.

I don't care. That doesn't make it Sup Forums.

My main issues aren't with opinions directly, but what people enable here now, like the dumb dr pig shit being "funny", the constant sponge memes, the dumb fanbase hoards that come here and spill into wrong threads then say "you're an anti-[series] fag!" when called out for forcing their shit in a thread, lol wacky par-tah! humor used in reaction images which makes the poster seem juvenile, a dumbass being retarded then getting 100+ responses for the screencap meme, when waifufags make a new trend like channel-tans and when they defend something shitty in a series just because they want their waifu loved, whether or not the story/execution relating to her was done well, that shit.

I use no other boards, but I imagine since cartoons and comics have a huge following of kids, this board is one of the worst off for it, since kids just want any site they can to discuss their cartoons, and as the years go by Sup Forums is just another youtube comment section tier site, but mainly Sup Forums because memes make it more known since it gets screencapped and referred to off-site

It's a pretty good fic. The author started it before S2 so Eileen isn't part of the story. His Margaret is amazing.

>before season 2
>2010 in the corner
fuck it's weird seeing the show's fandom stuff since it's so dead now, it's a weird case of nostalgia

>Eileen isn't part of the story
Sounds great, I'll look for it, is it just writing and that's the cover or is it a comic? Either way sounds fine


>hate most fanfiction but my interest in rs is conflicting with that hate

>it's weird seeing the show's fandom stuff since it's so dead now
2010-2012 were the last years of the good fandoms and the last good years of Sup Forums. There was a lot of good shit those days.

>is it just writing and that's the cover
Yes.

>John Milton's Paradise Lost
It's pretty fun. I did read a translated version without rhyme, so that's why probably every time without Satan in it was kind of boring.

>fuck it's weird seeing the show's fandom stuff since it's so dead now, it's a weird case of nostalgia
I've recently read a Half Life fanfic that was written before Episode 2 came out. It was kind of a surreal experience reading the author's notes telling his readers how he'd write about episode 3 as soon as it came out with so much enthusiasm.

>not fapping to the written word
Best faps i ever had were when i imagined everything in my head instead of looking at somebody's drawings

>sorry faggot I can't hear you over the sound of my EMMY
>>emmy
I fucking love this banter

Also fuck, Gumball threads barley changed

>>Besides the lines between canon and fanon have really been blurred when it comes to a lot of properties
>>this is what fanfiction authors believe

Have you even read Marvel comics?

Is the emmy thing still accurate? Doesn't AT have more now? Kinda hard to believe Regular Show only won one.

>Gumball threads barley changed
They are more about Nicole since S2

"Alan Moore is overrated."
"Frank Miller can't draw."
"Brian Michael Bendis is very good at dialogue."

I've seen some trap posting ever since the dumb Marco shit in Star Vs became a Sup Forums icon, but yea the "barley" was more about how nicole is the main focus and there are still the "can we discuss the series" moments, but fuck that's been the case for most series threads since 2014-15

>Duuuude the Aeneid was tooootallly fanfiction!
Following that logic, every Greek, Roman, and Medieval piece of literature involving mythological characters are fanfiction too.

>infinite
What's it like to be so new to masturbation?

But it's fun to fuck with people in those threads.

>THE BIBLE IS FANFICTION FOR THE OLD TESTEMENT
>fun(((dies))) blown tfo
Yeah, I really enjoy this as well

It's like these people legitimately believe that every malformed nugget of thought that they excrete is a weapons-grade genius bomb.

The fact that these people are completely oblivious that their TOTALLY ORIGINAL IDEAS have already been conceived and been completely been dismissed by people far smarter than them throughout history demonstrates that they haven't put even the smallest amount of effort or thought into developing their ideas.

Just...sit the fuck down and talk through your argument. Maybe put in a 5 minute Google search. The bar is really that low.

Of course, none of these people are going to fucking do that, and instead we're going to suffer through thousands of years of "Divine Comedy = Harry Potter fanfics".

Thick thighs, not thick skulls, ya know?

"A Black Comedy" by nonjon is objectively better than 99% of media, derivative or otherwise, produced thus far this century.

>ninnies
Are you Spanish by any chance?

That picture is disgusting

>regards, man with the worst taste in the world

The Marco thing was pure autismo

>muh stronk womyn

I honestly do think there is some decent fanfiction out there. When an author has talent, but its very very uncommon.

The single longest piece of literature in human history is a fan-fiction. The Subspace Emissary's Worlds Conquest is a fanfic loosely based on Super Smash Bros. Brawl, and it's over 3,500,000 words long.
m.fanfiction.net/s/4112682/1/The-Subspace-Emissary-s-Worlds-Conquest

Now that it has a "record" I imagine other autists will try to surpass it using what they want to get attention as the subject

Fanfiction writing, especially "fapfiction", is one of if not THE most utterly pathetic and waste of human resources on the internet.
>Oh yeah poor grammar text I'm so fucking horny
Also it is always by fucking people who have no sense of text, writing, or human language that makes these fanfics shit. They know they have no talent or worth of skills like drawing so they choose writing fanfics because it's easy, anyone can do it, and it's below the bottom of the barrel. I've never seen greatly written fanfics ever, so I just turn up my nose and ignore these people.
>inb4 people start posting their shitty fanfics going "n-n-n-no, these are good see check it out!"
Just don't. One can argue many "mainstream" mediums are fanfiction stuff like certain comic/cartoon arcs/runs, video games, etc. if they're bad enough, but that's the correlation, it's not of quality to NOT be considered fanfiction.

>so I just turn up my nose and ignore these people.

Gundam Unicorn :^)

Care to provide a actual counter-point or are you just gonna spam more edge images of yourself you seriously saved off the internet onto your mom's computer?

What counter point is there to make?
All you did was bitch and whine about a few shitty Fanfics.
Not saying that Fanfiction is usually good (it isn't), but, ya know, I don't understand why you're getting from whining about it.

>edge images of yourself
Nigga please

So all you basically said is that I'm right and I'm not allowed to complain because...?
This is Sup Forums kid, people complain on here since before 2005.

>So all you basically said is that I'm right

No

>92346748
You don't need to try do hard, it's obvious that you're a post Moot newfag.

>there's an infinite amount of rule 34
if only busta

>Not saying that Fanfiction is usually good (it isn't), but, ya know,
>Not saying that Fanfiction is usually good
>(it isn't)
Dude, are you even paying attention to what you yourself is typing and posting?

That wasn't what you were arguing. In fact, your claim is literally the first sentence of your original post
>Fanfiction writing, especially "fapfiction", is one of if not THE most utterly pathetic and waste of human resources on the internet.

Also, it was based solely on anecdotal evidence, and you went out of your way to prematurely reject any actual evidence that disproved you.

>tfw this thread was derailed by its own OP

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Fuck you. Tails gets trolled is perhaps the highest achievement of comics as a medium, and its all fanfiction.

This SWAT Kats/Eureka crossover is also ridiculously long and has barbed dicks.

fur-and-fantasy.com/series-eurekakats.php

If you mean the evidence that there are "good fanfiction" then your agreement with me that there are very few "good ones" only helps prove me right. Literally every single time someone posts a fanfic paste or whatever for over the last what, 11 years on here have all been garbage. What makes you or me think that suddenly good ones are produced especially now when the site is in the objectively worst and most cancerous periods since it has been up? Yes I'm gonna believe that newfag shitposters like this kid that spew forced memes online with poorly written posts for no reason other than to be a massive faggot online is going to actually produce something of quality, especially that of literature/text kind that's already known to be a massive pile of garbage and a well known target of ridicule and embarrassment.

Well, firstly I'm not the other guy, and second, fanfiction as a medium is completely unregulated. There is literally no filter for quality. If you want to find a good fanfic you have to go trudging through all the shit to find it, and it's perfectly fine if you don't want to, but it's not fair to claim that, since nobody has come to you with the holy grail, it doesn't exist. Besides, most of the ones that get posted on Sup Forums are fapfics, and fapfics don't even strive to be good. They strive to get the job done.

Anyways, my point with the other post was that your original point wasn't that most of them were bad (had that been your point, I would've agreed straight off, since it's unequivocally true). Your point was that fanfiction is "the most utterly pathetic and waste of human resources on the internet." It wasn't even an actual argument, just a subjective claim. And even then, you said you don't want to see any fanfiction that anyone on here thinks is good. My question to you is if you think all fanfiction is trash with no exceptions, why do you even care about it so much?

>Well, firstly I'm not the other guy
Oh great this shit again. Not even going to bother with this this time.
>There's no filter of quality
Same goes for other mediums such as drawing art. You go onto say dA and see all these pre-teen drawings with very poor technical skills and eventually some extremely skillful art pieces. How is that a justification for the entire fan/fapfic genre to be utterly garbage en mass?
>most of the ones that get posted on Sup Forums are fapfics, and fapfics don't even strive to be good. They strive to get the job done.
That's an extremely poor and dangerous mindset/excuse you're putting forth. Why just settle for "meh it's done whatever" instead of actually striving to be good? Literature is an art, art is striving for perfection. Do you agree that children only should receive participation awards because some kids will have their feelings that one other individual got awarded for their work?
>My question to you is if you think all fanfiction is trash with no exceptions, why do you even care about it so much?
My question is why do you care so much if I don't care about it? It seems you're offended that I'm so harsh on fan/fapfics on a personal level as if you're one of those who write them, why else would you be so on this?