Explain the Eltingville Club to me

Explain the Eltingville Club to me.

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I was gonna storytime it for you, but I can't find the goddamn thing anywhere. Sorry OP.

Imagine every terrible thing about fandom, and times it by 10.

So, Sup Forums?

Oh please. Like Sup Forums can spend more than 5 minutes with 3 other real people in the same room

It's pretty good but I don't have the patience to explain it
I'm just gonna say that Bill is the best character and if you don't read the comics, at least watch the cartoon
youtube.com/watch?v=4gK0uNlLa3s

Sup Forums irl

Wait, there was a CARTOON!?

Ye-yuh, but only one episode, [AS] picked Venture Bros over Eltingville back in the 00s
It's a good thing because we got Venture Bros, but at the same time it's bad because we never got Eltingville Club
They should bring it back and cancel Rick and Morty imo

Well, Sup Forums shitposting IRL.

FUCK! I haven't been able to find a torrent of the Eltingville Club comics anywhere, so I keep hoping for a storytime!

it's about us really

Billfag here, I'm gonna be a nice guy and give you this

mediafire.com/file/fdds2mbl4dajzhw/The_Eltingville_Club_001_(2014)_(digital)_(Son_of_Ultron-Empire).cbr

mediafire.com/file/h5uv46iy9ez2cjr/The_Eltingville_Club_002_(2015)_(digital)_(Son_of_Ultron-Empire).cbr

Storytime if you want

The trivia contest and all the references work much better in print

Dorkin is indie so he gives no fucks but a network TV show might have misgivings

Oh so thats where the Boba Fett helmet came from. Sup Forums do you guys know a josh irl?

I think we all know the Eltingville Club members irl, some of us on Sup Forums even act like them

Funny how Dorkin is such a nice guy if you judge him based on his creation
youtube.com/watch?v=4D2FAmCX8vI

These are the two recent issues but here's a collection that has everything else he did. I wanted to storytime it myself but I'm much too lazy.
mediafire.com/?0xddddmq4ctzz2j

They should definitely try to give the show another chance, but I don't see them canceling R&M over it, since it gives them lots of viewers and money

I live in the neighborhood this comic was based off.

Yea, Rick and Morty is the "new" [AS] cow

The ugly truth about YOU, consumer of Sup Forums-related products.

Say hello to Dorkin for Sup Forums

Not only Sup Forums, but all of "nerd culture"

Not really. Such culture is full of normies, i.e. people for which life is something else than comics and cartoons.

>implying normies doesn't pretend to like comics and cartoons too
Every fandom has those guys that liked something better when it wasn't popular
We had a thread about this

Bill is quite simply an irredeemable cunt.

Jerry is best boy and understands that the others are dragging him down.

There's some hope for Pete, and maybe marginal hope for Josh.

Yeah, the culture has changed drastically. It used to be angry manchildren fanboys who hate everything, now it's just vapid manchildren and womanchildren who love everything.

In the comic notice that each member is a fanboy of a specific thing: horror, scifi, comics, fantasy, and tabletops. They have interest in each other's passions but their main interests are individual. That's more like what things used to be.

Now everyone just enjoys the surface level of everything. You can't just be a fan of Star Trek and spend your time learning about it, instead you watch a handful of episodes of Star Trek and Doctor Who and Walking Dead, and DC cartoons instead of reading the actual comics, play a shitty game of D&D 4e with some friends and murder hobo it up, and then spend hundreds of dollars on merch to show everyone what a "fan" you are.

But the bitter assholes who just want to complain about everything are still out there, as evidenced by Sup Forums.

>It used to be angry manchildren fanboys who hate everything, now it's just vapid manchildren and womanchildren who love everything.
OH well, at least they love.

The Eltingville Club is about four losers who are friends based on their shared love of geek culture: comics, sci-fi, horror, fantasy. They are a pack, united in their goal to be the pinnacle of their obsession. They buy, they collect, they steal, they watch, they read, they write, they demand, they demand some more, they collect some more, they obsess constantly. They'll sneak into every new movie knowing it'll be a shitty rip off. They'll steal a toy from a child's food tray just so they can have a second duplicate.

They are the worst aspects of any fandom. They want and all they do is want. It's never enough.

However, every pack must have a leader, and Bill is constantly at odds with his pack. He has to be the winningest, the most knowledgeable, the one with the best stuff. Josh challenges him, Jerry and Pete shake their heads on the sideline. This pack cannot last. Years maybe? But not forever.

That is the Eltingville Club - a pack held together by a constant struggle for superiority in a world where being the leader means leading the charge in a barren, empty, fruitless plain.

Dorkin admitted the Trivia Off was probably not the best episode to pilot on.

They should have had subtitles for the contest because why not?

At least viewers will learn new things easier.

I mean, it's not like it was hard to understand what was happening, it got the point across well. But I guess casual viewers might get turned off.

I thought it was great, but if it was really between it and Venture, [as] probably made the right decision.

the writer is an antisocial little fuck that thinks everyone who likes comics is an asshole

all the content of his 90s zines and the ettingvile club was complaining about comics and music in the most pretentious way

even going as far as to go watch local bands and shittalk both the fans and the band

the only good thing he did is milk & cheese

Fuck you, I like it.

I didn't say it's bad. but i'm saying it's extremely negative and the author is clearly one of those guys who gets off from shitting on others

that "I hate comics, i love comics" strip from milk & cheese is probably one of the best lines of the era

this would have made a perfect adult swim show

so if y'all had the chance to go back in time and tell dorkin what chapter to use what would you choose for a pilot ep ? personally i think twilight zone marathon could have been better animated

Anybody got their irony sense tingling when they read this post?

You're tasked with writing Superboy Prime vs The Eltingville Club
What do you do?

Either combine a few of the smaller stories, or modify The Intervention to include the whole club.

what does "eltingville" refer to? not a native speaker.

The town where they live

Who /northwest/ here?

Honestly I agree. I don't dislike or disagree with what Dorkin has to say as much as I just don't get anything out of it. I don't find it entertaining, or funny, or meaningful or interesting. It's just "look, aren"t these people shits?" and not much else.

I love how Dorkin shat on indiefags as well.

It depends on which work. I still like his Bill and Ted, and Kid Blastoff. Milk and Cheese and his angry stuff is good only in small doses, to me.

They are the "Comic Book and Science Fiction/Horror/Fantasy and Roleplay Club". Lady protectors, super collectors.

Is nerd culture still the way it was portrayed in the pilot? Would they need to update it for modern audiences and risk having a Big Bang Theory type shit going on?

Fuck, I remember reading that like a year after my "friends" and I tried to make our own comix zine. It was good medicine.

He doesn't go nearly as far was he did with the original group though, they're absolutely fucking awful people.

The early shorts are hilarious.

The 2 issue miniseries "finale" was just mean spirited garbage and not funny at all. Dorkin let his own personal hate of fans get in the way of just making a funny comic and it ruined the whole thing. There are basically no jokes. Instead it's just "fans are literally hitler: the comic".

>There are basically no jokes.

4U

Maybe it hit too close to home?

It was mostly just Bill. Pete and Josh were still degenerates, but they managed to get in on the bottom rung of menial industry scumdoggery and seemed pretty happy about it. Bill was a janitor and Jerry was a very unrealistic portrayal of trading card game players.

>Is nerd culture still the way it was portrayed in the pilot
No, most of nerds today are normies who want to be nerds cause nerds are cool now
Most of them are MCU fags

FUN is still Dorkin's best work

Ed Piskor is actually Evan Dorkin

Eltingville isn't even applicable to things like modern internet fandom. You really couldn't sell the scenario if it were to make fun of something like Pinecest or prank business ratings.

Nah, it focuses directly on the Club and they wouldn't have changed. Most of the people in the comic store during the trivia off are depicted as nerds but nowhere near the level the Club are. You'd probably just have a few more normies acting weirded out that they were really doing this in the middle of the store.

I mean, the joke about Josh having a bootleg sex tape of sexy starlet nude scenes (that turns out to be episodes of the Hair Bear Bunch,) would have to be changed to like a torrent or something. Or hell maybe not, maybe they're such uber nerds they dig the tape trading and Josh got screwed even easier.

It wasn't ever really like this. These were the guys my friends and I avoided. Nerd stores were made for surgical strikes, not hanging out.

Decent people who wanted to see naked tits in their lifetime didn't talk about this shit in company.
I worked in a SF bookstore in Berkeley in the 90's and these guys would come in but they were outliers.

They already torrented by the time of the miniseries, I think.

>Implying they don't team up and destroy everything

Eltingville Club is cool, but the face of nerdom has changed SO MUCH in the intervening years and also that final issue was, while perhaps raising some salient points, WAY too on the nose.

The only part of the finale I didn't like was how much they genuinely shit on Jerry at the very end. Outside of that, I thought it was hilarious.

The problem is honestly less with Dorkin and more with the people who take the comic seriously and agree with its shitting on obvious exaggerations like they're fact. There was an article on like Kotaku or some other clickbait site that praised the comic for portraying the "awful manchild underbelly of the comics fandom" without a hint of irony.

But the thing is The Elitingville Club isn't about nerds in general. It's specifically about the worst of the worst. The story was inspired by people sending one of his friends death threats because Ice was killed off in the comics.

these guys weren't supposed to be the norm of nerd culture

they were supposed to embody the worst aspects of fandom

Like the anime boom (KC Green's Anime Club nearly isn't oldfag enough, also he kind of should be sued)

The post-Batman and Robin cape movies (the commercialization/legitification of cons and cosplay is noted but just there in the background)

Heck, even the Star Wars prequel and pre-Disney era (there is the background too)

In the 7 years I've been on Sup Forums, people like Josh and Bill, the latter most of all, are way too familiar with obsessive, venomous anons I've had the displeasure of meeting.

Would totally hang out with Pete and Jerry, though.

People were still using VHS in 2002?

If you were poor, yes.

DVD didn't really take over until the mid-late 2000's.

My family was. It would be a few more years before we made the switch.

Plus in this circle there would still be a lot of tape circulation going on and not everything they'd want to watch would make the transition. Even today horror buffs like Pete tend to collect vhs just because there was so much horror there that's not available in other formats.

I kept using it until 2005-6ish, not to watch movies but to record. My family skipped the whole TiVo thing.

Anime Club?

>marginal hope for Josh.

Hurm, no.

Show us on the Boba Fett action figure where Dorkin touched you, user.

Eltingville was part of its inspiration

Fun fact: Ellingtonville only exists because Dorkin is an obnoxious shit who wanted to white knight one of his friends, who got shitted on by comic fans for fridging a female super-hero.


Dorkin is BFF with Dan Vado, who was something of a big name in the indie comic field in the early 90s.

Vado ends up getting work at DC writing Justice League of America and decides to kill off Ice. Ice basically was everyone's favorite Waifu and he had her die a bitch's death after turning her evil and making her a willing ally of a Galactus rip-off.

Pretty much EVERYONE at DC thought it was a bad idea, even Mark Waid, who (due to the death being part of a crossover) had to misfortune of being the one who had to write the death Vado ordered.

(Waid has long stated that he regrets not fighting harder to stop Vado BTW and puts that issue up there with the whole "Zodiac" issue of Captain America he did, as one of the issues he publicly disowns)

Vado got a lot of hate mail which pissed off Dorkin, for Dorkin considered Vado a BFF and industry icon in the indie scene (he also stated "why should fans be pissed off that he killed Ice? She's just going to come back!"; ignoring the fact that DC was dead set on keeping Ice dead and even tried to shove a rather loved lesbian stalker replacement on fans, who shitted on her so badly, DC not only let James Robinson kill her off but also let another writer skin her alive; Ice only came back to life around 2007 and even then Gail Simone had to burn through a LOT of favors to be allowed to bring her back due to the hate boner DC has for the Giffen League).

The Eltingville Club is like Big Bang Theory but accurate and actually funny

This. I'm a VHS collector and there's a lot of good shit that never made the jump to DVD or Blu Ray. There's also a lot of underground production companies that make horror movies exclusively for VHS. It's an interesting culture.

Wow what an asshole. Imagine getting mad that people send your friend death threats over a bad comic. Fucking white knight should get a life.

I storytimed the series once. It's really interesting seeing such polarizing reactions and how quickly it can make users turn on each other. I'd say Eltingville is a lot more relatable than Sup Forums would like to admit.

>I'm just gonna say that Bill is the best character

In a "how far can this cunt take his shit?" kind of way, sure.

I only heard about DVD in 2007 kek

Literally Sup Forums in real irl.

>the hate boner DC has for the Giffen League)

But whyyyy

That's their problem

Geoff Johns didn't grow up with that league, which means it's bad and should be forgotten.

And to get his revenge he wrote an indie comic where he makes fun of them, the absolute madman!

Their interests covered anime as far as it applied to sci-fi, fantasy, etc. then only the more mainstream-ish cult ones like Akira.

I figure depictions of early oldfag fans would have to be way more specialized and Japanophilic.

>death threats
He said hate mail, user. Hate mail. Not death threats.

Dorkin says death threats.

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I love the eltingville club

Not true; if anything Johns is a huge fucking fanboy of the Detroit League. Which even Giffen League fans hate.

It's more DiDio hating the Giffen League due to his shallow mainstream notions of what DC should be.

The JLI was when the Justice League had 99% C-Listers with the occassional token Batman, Martian Manhunter, Wonder Woman, or Superman as the leader.

That said, Geoff DOES fucking hate Max Lord and Ted Kord. He repeatedly cockblocked Ted's return after all.

I can't believe we killed Jim Steranko!

I can't believe we JON BON JOVI

imagine Sup Forums
make it worst.

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Just a quick thanks to you fellas.

I know it's you, Jesse/Marvel """"Insider"""

Dorkin is fucking awesome

Well, the tape was supposed to be a mix of a bunch of scenes of older movies where those girls appeared naked. Considering most of those movies would probably be on vhs or taped from tv and not released on DVD yet, it makes sense.
And that's not me just giving too much thought about this, it's just that I know for a fact that up unitl fairly recently, porn, real death and all that kind of bootleg mixtapes were still distributed on actual tape.

People get really touchy about Milk & Cheese and Eltingville like: "He's a bad author because his parody is too extreme and not nuanced."

It would be milquetoast lukewarm piss instead of biting vitriol if he was realistic in his parodies.

Dude can write, just read Beasts of Burden.
I even like his older stuff like Hectic Planet.

these

>Ed Piskor is actually Evan Dorkin
Huh?