Captain Marvel

>her solo books keep flopping
>her books by association (A-Force, Ultimates) also flop
>headlines the sequel to the most circlejerked and overhyped Marvel event and it underperforms
When will Marvel get the hint?

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>When will Marvel get the hint?
They won't. They'll just keep pushing it and blame the people that read their comics, and call them misogynists or something. Marvel won't blame itself and it's shitty writing, they'll blame their fans, like usual.

Actually, right now they are blaming the people who don't read their comics saying that readers don't care about forced strong female protagonists or forced diversity characters, and they're right, the people that were pushing for that crap don't actually read comics

She just needs to fuck Spider-Woman already.

If Wonder Woman flops it will be really interesting on what plans change for the Captain Marvel movie and comic.

>yfw they'll redo the entire movie with Kamala instead

You don't seem to get it.

When the movie comes out and is a hit, people are gonna go out to the store to buy TPBs like they do for every MCU film.

There's basically no Ms. Marvel content to make into trades, and there's definitely nothing where she's called Captain Marvel and wearing the movie costume.

That's why they keep these series running, because now they'll have like a dozen trades for people to buy when the movie comes out.

Get rid of that butch lesbian hair and Zarya body and muslim side kick

stop making her into a leader wonder woman type

think of starfire meets supergirl with hal jordans background

nobody likes dyke power fantasies

Do they ever go that far back for trades? Thought it was they go for the one that came out closest to the release date or has a Vol 1 on it and that's the only one they get.

Prove it or you are a faggot.

>When the movie comes out and is a hit, people are gonna go out to the store to buy TPBs like they do for every MCU film.
What's funny about this us that DC was smart enough to FINALLY reprint Ostrander'a Suicide Squad when the movie was announced. So there is some merit to what it is you're trying to say.

They're just treading water till the movie.

>they don't read comics
No one reads comics.

They will need to bring in another Alist hero to her movie to save her movie like what they are doing with thor, Wanda or even Docstrange will be enough

no more tony pls

but it will probably be black panther since they wan to force diversity and white woman fucking a black guy fetish anti white degeneracy

>think of starfire meets supergirl with hal jordans background
throw in Hal's personality and that's a book I'd read. she seems to much like the stop mansplaining type of girl for me to be interested in. I read a little bit of Civil War 2 and it didn't have any of the punch of the first one and I really didn't like her position on the whole thing where it was basically nope to every form of logic Stark threw at her.

Hairs too short. Manish. Seem to be making it bit less that short.

Onoy lady thor and lady wolverine should be pushed more.

We have to see what effect the movie and new mvc game will have on her. Plus legacy.

Dank meme

But seriously, people do read comics, and movies have brought in a small number of new readers, but the number of actual readers opposed to people who just complain about things they read I'm a wiki or saw a meme of really out weighs us.

>every form of logic Stark threw at her.
The biggest problem with CWII was that despite Stark's side being objectively right, he never once articulates why predictive justice is bad and instead just flails around like a drunken idiot making everything worse at every opportunity for no other reason than "muh Rhodey." It isn't until AFTER he's in the coma that it's articulated, and that happens from Beast explaining Tony's side to Carol despite Beast's interpretation of Tony's actions not even remotely reflecting any of the reasons Tony gave for what he was doing.

Carol was 100% right and did nothing wrong.

Reed's run lasted long enough for something like 9 trades and she's got a ton of Avengers and X-Men stuff they can cross-market. I think she's got seven or eight trades under the Captain Marvel moniker not including stuff like CW2.

>There's basically no Ms. Marvel content to make into trades
There's Carol's best run.

>think of starfire meets supergirl with hal jordans background
More like Power Girl meets John Stewart. She's got nothing in common with Kara or Kori.

And Kamala can stay.

Only if after the movie and they've gradually change Carol to match the movie and she still doesn't sell will they drop it. She'll die or give up officially leaving everything she has to Kamala.

>There's Carol's best run.
That's Captain Marvel.

Captain Marvel & Spider-Woman married team-up book a la RYV when?

Oh for fucks sake, this shit isn't even funny as an ironic shitpost.

Kamala needs to go shes aids

Doesn't Drew hate Danvers now though because of all the shit that went down in Civil War II?

DC did something similar to Marvel where Harley Squad was introduced with the New 52 to make a more marketable version of the property for movies. Then they made sure they kept the book going to have a clear TPB entrypoint.

They're cool again.

They're on the mend. Jess was in an issue of the current run.

She sells better than Carol. Keeping her around can only do good things for Carol's popularity.

Butters/Fazeka might have turned into something special if they'd been allowed to continue it. As it is, though, it's still better than any of her other Captain solos.

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>have a clear TPB entrypoint.

Which Carol as Captain Marvel doesn't have due to the relaunches, I think she currently has three Vol. 1 out right now.

Carol's a great character that is underrated, though.

Explain your reasoning.

Not

She's got the setup for a great character. Violent, authoritarian, slightly sadistic, trapped by her own character flaws and the high profile she's always wanted.

It's been 40 fucking years and the most memorable story she's ever had is the one where she's impregnated with her own rapist. There's a limit to how long you wait for "potential" to end. Throw her in the fucking bin and try something else.

What I posted mostly comes from post-House of M and some of it is post-Reed. Pre-Disassembled Carol is a whole 'nother beast.

Nah, she's had plenty of great stories.

Big Dog Carol working the smarks

No, she hasn't

I was a CJ in Police Admin. in college and we learned all about predictive justice. The jist is about stopping a crime before it happens, which is a novel idea. However, I believe there should be some sort of secondary evidence to support the idea. All of us have thought, at one point or another, about doing something bad to another person; yet most of stop when we realize when nothing good will come of it. The problem with Carol is that she only relied on one resource for her info, and not even a very reliable resource. People have relied of soothsayers for years, most of it being bunk. Which is why if you are going to rely on futureteller, you might as well go to one, or more than one, that has more experience.

Both Carol and Roman are both great characters, I don't get why people hate them.

>getting rid of Kamala

There's no need for that.

Go to bed Vince.

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Friendly reminder people adored Roman at some point and he was part of the hottest team in the company

Carol is a perennial D-lister thrust into the spotlight because Marvel has too few options for a Wonder Woman knockoff

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What I wouldn't give to hear Carol say "Slap Nuts!"

It's more the fact that they're both being trust into positions way before they're ready for them, and higher-ups in charge are stubbornly plowing ahead despite outcry from fans

Carol thread?

Marvel doesn't blame its readers as much as they blame DC.

>Muslim sidekick

Fucking casual.

>When the movie comes out and is a hit, people are gonna go out to the store to buy TPBs like they do for every MCU film.
Yeah those sales boosts for Black Panther and Dr Strange sure saved those books!

They exist, so yeah it did.

Name 1 (one) iconic Carol story.

>They exist
You exist. Does that mean you're worth keeping around? Really ask yourself that.

Welcome to the Kree Empire.

YAAAS QUEEN

SLAY

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I thought Stark did a decent job in that illuminati meeting. Even got Hank McCoy and others to vouch for him. Carol literally ignored them all and then flew off in a temper tantrum.

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That would actually be fantastic.

I am not ashamed to admit that I fapped to the art in this one.

Roman is actually a good wrestler

I thought that the most memorable story that she ever had was the one were Rogue drained her powers and put her in a coma.

>Captain Marvel
Why not Captain MCU. How many people does she pretend to win with that name. People need something that doesn't reek of corporativism

Neither of them are gay, and Jess is with Hopeless self insert now.

That's because you're both turbocasuals.

They're the ur-example of Claremont bisexuals, user.

Carol is like Cancer, she is unwanted, costing its host tons of money and spreading.

aka Marvel will 99% straight up ignore it but maybe throw a wink and nod there to keep the autists satisified. See like every X-bitch out there who was written by Claremont.

>saying that readers don't care about forced strong female protagonists or forced diversity characters, and they're right,
No, they're saying how bold exciting an revolutionary their shit writing is, and how old readers "just don't want strong women out there in books". They're saying we're "turning our noses up at the stuff" and I'm not paraphrasing.

The head of sales is basically pulling a George Lucas with Redwings, and acting like there hasn't eben a million other things in the medium better executed than this drivel with the minorities they wanna push.

But people liked Carol too but Marvel took away everything that make her relatable and turned her into..this.

I think the Roman Reigns comparison applies here too.

It was very jizztastic

>It isn't until AFTER he's in the coma that it's articulated, and that happens from Beast explaining Tony's side to Carol despite Beast's interpretation of Tony's actions not even remotely reflecting any of the reasons Tony gave for what he was doing.

Was it? I think I missed that.

Eh she'll be flying solo soon enough and then it gets revealed her child is evil.

It doesn't matter. If they weren't making out with each other on. Page when he was writing them, then they won't be making out anytime soon.

Oh Jack, I wish that marvel were pushing you instead of Carol.

Yet again, I'll post my Carol Danvers fic: archiveofourown.org/works/7926028

HA! Bitch-queen got CUKED! BY A WHITE MALE! In fact, she had to watch as Spiderwoman got fucked long and hard while she was only allowed to sit there and watch as her crush gets impregnated.

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Nice.

This.

>Marvel
>Selling trades
>Marvel
What's with the influx of movie-defending Mouseketeers who know nothing about comica recently?

Marvel is stupid.

You do know BP vol 1 is the highest selling post secret wars trade?

I missed the old Marvel
the sales have dropped down, so I'm not the only one

Carol is also a holocaust denier

If the movie comes out and it flops, they'll drop her like a rock. If not, they will continue trying to push her, with Bendis being a prime candidate for taking over her book since he would want to leech off any successful movie franchise. If he heads the title and it still flounders, we may finally see it die but I doubt it.

Needs space for Tigra up there

Fan made redesign.

Obligatory


...it's been been over 10 years since we lost Genis, anons.

Its prepping the market for a movie.

They tell normies that she is the most powerful hero, that she is great, that this arc is acclaimed, that she is decades old....

Then they put out a movie with an Oscar winner to make some real money.

Because they know they can make money using any property, not just the ones that are very successful in comics.

Will Carol ever be great again?

Nah, because /u/ faggots follow it just to post lesbian porn and demand it be made canon.

It's bad enough they already turned her into a bulldyke with no tits.