IN ROGUE ONE AT THE END
THE REBEL SHIPS START JUMPING TO HYPERSPEED
BUT VADER SHIP MATERIALIZES AND MANY SMALL SHIP CRASH INTO IT INSTEAD OF WARPING
THEY JUST EXPLODE AND DON'T DAMAGE THE BIG SHIP
am I the only one who saw this?
You need a ship big enough to do any damage
>You need a ship big enough to do any damage
except that's not the point at all. If any, this scene runs counter to Holdo's because they would "occupy" the same hyperspace since they are approaching each other--this means, if we are to follow Holdo's kamikaze, either the rebel ships that just jumped, or vader's ship or all of them should have been destroyed
also consider the fact that the Millennium Falcon jumped to hyperspace before Han's freight doors fully opened in TFA but suffered no major damage anyway
It's over. The movie was terrible. The war is over. You're the Mouse equivalent of that Japanese soldier that was found decades after WWII on an island somewhere believing the war never ended. The world you knew where you would be able to shill TLJ powerfully enough to compensate for how utterly horrible it is and everyone would cheer your name is gone. Every decision in your life that brought you to this point has been in vain. You failed. Take a lesson from one of your master's other films and "Let It Go." You might still have a chance at a normal life. Go check out one of the many BR2049 threads or maybe the gay porn thread if that's more your speed, but the time for trying to shill this movie is over.
No, you retard that one ship that crashes into the Star Destroyer was not in hyperspace yet.
Don't pretend your some kind of genius for catching this. Other retards brought it up in the days following the release and were similarly shot down for their retardation
Star Wars hyperdrives seem to follow the same rules as Back to the Future time travel does. The vehicle physically interacts with stuff while accelerating to light speed then becomes immaterial after crossing the light speed boundary.
The ramming in TLJ worked because the distance between Holdo's ship and Snoke's ship was just barely less than the distance Holdo's ship needed to accelerate to go into hyperspace, so when she rammed, the ship was going almost light speed and did crazy damage. Any further, and the jump would have been completed without a collision. Any closer, and Snoke's ship could tank the damage with its shields and not be cut in half.
This guy gets it.
Rian Johnson can't into hyperspace
Top quality pasta
Those fighters are as big compared to the star destroyer as the resistance ship was compared to the flagship.
It's just that Rogue One had semi-competent writers who knew Star Wars lore well, so they knew not to unleash the hyperspace ram genie.
The movie was alright and not as terrible as you all deem it to be.
How many layers of contrarianism are you guys on?
The movie was 6/10
OT > R1 > TLJ > 1 > 3 > TFA > 2
Fucking BRUTAL Kek
Kinetic force = 1/2*mv^2
v is expressed in meters.
Light speed: 300.000 kilometers
300.000.000^2= 9*10^16
> Using Newton's physics at speeds near c
Lmaoooooo
What are deflector shields?
Is just to give a very very rought idea.
I have a bachelor's in engineering
I have a very very precise idea
it didn't just yet you literal retard
*jump
then please do tell.
>His reasoning is as follows: according to the official book Star Wars: The Last Jedi - Incredible Cross Sections, which gives detailed stats on fictional Last Jedi tech, the Raddus is 2.1 miles long, while the Supremacy is a much larger 8.2 miles long, with similar materials that make their sizes fairly proportional to their masses. This means that, in order for the Raddus to even make a dent in the Supremacy, let alone rip it apart, it needs to move forward with an incredible force.
it's whydidntjustfroddo-tier levels of stupid though.
why didn't they just use the same tactic against the death star, the moon planet with the shield on it, or the giant laser planet?
The rebellion literally only had one big ship at each time, Raddus > Ackbar > Holdo
And the death star is like 1000 times bigger
So there was NOT A SINGLE occasion where it would be useful
>Inb4 waste your only big ship onto one of the 100s destroyers
Fucking nerd, stop asking questions. Just watch the movie 5 times and shut the fuck up NERD
it's basically the principle of a relativistic missile, it doesn't have to be a ship.
they could've welded a scrap heap together, throw a hyperdrive on it and just use that. or even buy ships for scrap, tow them in range and used them as relativistic torpedos. there would be no point to star destroyers since they would be easily destroyed.
i mean, this concept has even been in real life war game exercises.
en.wikipedia.org
>In a preemptive strike, Red launched a massive salvo of cruise missiles that overwhelmed the Blue forces' electronic sensors and destroyed sixteen warships. This included one aircraft carrier, ten cruisers and five of six amphibious ships. An equivalent success in a real conflict would have resulted in the deaths of over 20,000 service personnel. Soon after the cruise missile offensive, another significant portion of Blue's navy was "sunk" by an armada of small Red boats, which carried out both conventional and suicide attacks that capitalized on Blue's inability to detect them as well as expected.
>en.wikipedia.org
>zodiacs carrying silkworms
>bike messengers moving at light speed
i hate when people cite this crap
The worst SW ever, get over it pal
>he doesnt want to see shitty inflatable boats with huge ass missles
pleb
It's better than TFA and Aotc
Mass increases with velocity and mass is infinite at lightspeed. It requires infinite energy to accelerate to c and infinite energy would be imported in a light speed collision.
>it needs to move forward with an incredible force.
Except a hyperdrive is not relativistic so its NOT moving with force. This whole plot point is so completely stupid, it literally ruins star wars completely for what, a throw away scene of a literal who "sacrificing" herself?
Hyperdrive is not relativistic. Proof: They don't collapse into a black hole when they turn it on.
A few things.
No one collides at light speed.
Vader's ship comes to a dead stop almost immediately. The deceleration is almost instant. He never travels far enough at high speed in order to hit anything. otherwise they will all need runways when coming out of hyperspace cause they would cars into each other.
now jumping into hyperspace requires a lot of distance, and near the end of it you are traveling very fast, and can hit shit.
but that doesnt happen in your webm. that one ship is starting to accelerate, but it doesnt show the blur trail behind it. its just going at normal speeds.
> v >>> c
>Not relativistic
It was a decent movie
It was an abissmal film
are you mansplaining OP, you little bitch? i bet you're white, male, straight, childless, single, and fat. get over it. you're a failure at life.
Supposedly warp space is a different dimension entirely where a ship's relative speed doesn't change so being able to interact with objects in regular space when you jump to warp space, let alone ram the shit out of them, shouldn't even work.
This guy gets it
The question still stands of "why did nobody do it before"
>because men were always in charge. it took a woman to be brave enough to do it.
Because people were stupider in the late 70s/early 80s/early 2000s
>mass is infinite at lightspeed
Is this because
>It requires infinite energy to accelerate to c
then?
Alrighty then thanks.
As you reach lightspeed, your mass increases to infinity. It doesn't matter if you crash a Mon Calamari cruiser into something or a watermelon.
>science in Star Wars
Just stop.
What did Disney mean by this?
I'm not even mad at Mary Poppins
I'm mad at the broken airlock not killing everybody
Does it bother anyone else that Kylo remotely turned on his light saber to kill Snoke?
If doing that was possible why didn't jedi/sith just kill each other easily by turning off each others light sabers as they swung?
It bothers me, but not as much as the ending scene where the kids are discussing the Myth of Luke Skywalker.
When does this happen? Months later? how did they find out what Luke does? Who would have told them? Did the last 5 members of the "Resistance" tell the world? How did a bunch of slave kids find this story out?
wait i thought the shield didn't protect the guns, poe shoot them out so easily?
He just has to force push a button
What's the big deal?
Another Jedi could prevent that to their own sword
Why wouldnt the shields protect the guns, there one of the more important components on a ship. Just more stupidity from the nutrilogy
This is very easy to explain
See the rich fucks sell the weapons so they are fast to know and they talk about it in the casino
The kids and other slaves hear the story
It could be the next day even
Poe is flying "below" the shield
Yeah that's true. Good explanation. Though, that would mean the First Order leaked the information about a strong Jedi who was able to withstand all of the munitions.
Thanks for your explanation, though.
I saw this clip before seeing the movie and thought it looked goofy, but in context it's a lot better. It's not that bad of a scene, but how slow it is makes the drama of it more forced and they should've done something that would've had the same effect, but a lot quicker so it looks less silly.
It should turn out that Snoke wanted Kylo Ren and Rey to kill him so he could "fake" his own death and come back later. I can get that he was distracted and didn't notice, but Snoke should be smarter than that.
Because you need to reach exactly the right distance to your target to pull it off, a distance well within the range of most conventional weapons.
They'd get shot to pieces before they get to execute their little suicide run, unless of course the idiot in charge of the enemy force just ignores a cruiser calmly preparing to jump to hyperspace right next to them.
Haven't seen the movie but wouldn't that just make Poe splat on the shield? And was he just shooting it with lasers on an xwing? Why are they so lightly armoured then since SW is WW2 in space the turrets case-mates should be amongst the most heavily armoured parts of the ship. Thats like an a6m zero blowing up an Iowas 16 inch guns by shooting it with its machine guns
What even was the point of that scene? Or any other scene in that movie.
Those ships don't warp. They didn't get a chance to because Vaders ship crashed into them first.
The ships that just entered warp do so in the direction of Vader's ship. Vader's ship just came out of warp. This contradicts what happens in TLJ because Vader's ship should have been a hyperspace projectile but it does not interact with the ships not in hyperspace just like the ships that just entered hyperspace didn't interact with Vader's
A real twist would have been the light sabre igniting next to Snoke, but Snoke just sits there.
"You disappoint me again, Kylo".
And he throws the lightsabre to Rey, giving Rey the option to fight Kylo, or both Kylo and Rey to fight Snoke OR Snoke basically blows both of them the fuck out but the Lightspeed ramming disrupts everything.
This builds Snoke up even more and puts Kylo and Rey in uncharted territory.
Mainly because a Sith's true completion of training isn't killing their enemy, it's killing their master. Only when a Sith kills their master do they truly complete their training.
That there's rebel sympathises out there and a new generation of 'rebels' and 'force sensitive' uses.
It works as an ending if it was the fucking last scene in the trilogy, ushering in a new age of Star Wars.
How the fuck can literally everyone drunk small time criminal hack the FO?
Who the fuck is in charge of their security? Are there no secure encryption protocols in star wars?
Hope.
This is the only explanation that could fix what has been broken
I saw it and I thought, WTF this is stupid
None of the conventional weapons can one shot a ship it seems, so it doesn't matter. Exit hyperspace, soak up some fire, damage doesn't matter since you're gonna die anyway, hyperdrive when you come within correct distance.
That japanese guy knew the war was over. He was just ashamed to come back because he had chikened out on that island. I believe they wrote nu-Luke after this guy. Fuck Disney, fuck Kathleen Kennedy, JJ Abrams and soyJohnson
Or build entire ships around weaponised hyper-space.
Ok then. The Star Destroyer was BIGGER than the rebel ships. So, then why could holdo destroy Snoke's ship?
Fuck off
YOU WILL DIE!!!!!!!'
>Ok then
Fuck off?!
These ships are way closer to the Destroyer, maybe they only reach like some percent of light speed while USS Tumblr reached maximum?
Are there any crossovers already?
This.Its engines flared as it was prepping for its jump, but it never got the chance.
The last jedi not only ruins all future STAR WARS movies, it also retroactively ruins the past films and makes them all look like idiots.
>A New Hope - "Sir we've worked out the final plan for the assault on the death star and it will be risky and cost many lives but it migh-" "Just Hyperspace-Ram it"
>Empire - "Sir the troops are ready for the ground assault on Hoth, walkers are ready to deploy" "Just Hyperspace-Ram the shield generator from orbit then Hyperspace-ram the rebel base. Boom. All the rebels will be dead before they can evacuate, war is over, and we never had to do a ground assault"
>Jedi - "Sir they built a new death star and it's even bigg-" "Just Hyperspace-Ram it" "But sir it's surrounded by a shield from the Endor moo-" "Just hyperspace ram the endor Moon until you take out the shield generator, Ewoks are collateral damage, then hyperspace ram the new death star"
>Phantom Menace - "Annakin you have to take out that droid controller" "Just hyperspace ram it"
>Rogue One - "We have to take down that shield generator!" "Just hyperspace ra- actually you know what were going to just hyperspace ram the death star anyway so we don't even need these stupid plans. Lets get out of here everybody."
>TFA - My god they built an even BIGGER death sta-" "Just hyperspace ram it"
From now on, in every star wars movie ever made, every single time there is a massive fleet, large base or battlestation everyone watching will be thinking. "Why don't they just hyperspace-ram it". Johnson did this to the entire star wars cinematic universe, forever, for the sake of a ten second shot that "looked cool".
Wrong
>later in TLJ
>they are having a very thick steel door covering Resistance base
>do I really need to spell it for you?
If you want to asspull a defence I'd give that Ven has some connection to the lightsaber since he's part Skywalker.
Cant asspull the light speed ram bullshit though, they ruined Star Wars for some SJW bullshit 10min scene.
how far is the range of force pull? if there's a light saber on the other side of a football field can she grab it?
Even TFA contradicts the way hyperspeed is handled in TLJ
Good explanation that somewhat shuts the Frodo.
The problem however is that assuming you can hit the target exactly at the correct moment is so ridiculous that it's unlikely anybody could pull it off on purpose.
By the way in TJL wasn't White Supremacy currently chasing Rebels at that moment?
This patch broke the space battle meta. Now everyone is just going to use asteroids with hyperspace drives jammed into them
No shit. You're fighting with corporate memers trying to drag down Disney. Actually IRL shills.
Holdo's ship contained an SJW, and their influence is inherently destructive to everything that they touch.
Why did the other ships (not the dreadnaught) all split perfectly in half after the 1 ship rammed into the dreadnaught?
All split in half then exploded.
Unless the reactor was in the dead center of each ship, then why did it effect the rest of the ships in a vertical line?
Yeah SJWs are known to be supermassive so it's like firing a black hole or a pulsar.
Not as perfectly
>a Mon Cal cruiser crashes into a Star Destroyer
>Mon Cal explodes, SD is undamaged.
>a Mon Cal cruiser crashes into a Supremacy Mega Star Destroyer
>The Mega Star Destroyer and the whole fleet of regular Star Destroyers trailing it is fucked up
Yeah no.
Into 3rds, yet the center cut is align.
Really? So photons are currently killing me as I stand outside? Your flawed grasp of theoretical physics still doesn't make up for a terrible movie
You might remember that Vader force choked an officer via comm link. They weren't even on the same ship.
>Disney Defense Forces deposits .02 Disney Bucks into your account.
>Redeem at your nearest Disney Theme Park.
The star destroyer is no longer in light speed when the smaller transport crashes into it you fucking retard.
true, forgot about that
What? There's one ship that crashes into the destroyer and it wasn't going lightspeed
Elaborate?
