Dick Grayson: The one who opened Batman's heart to others...

>Dick Grayson: The one who opened Batman's heart to others, a story of both honoring your father figure but rejecting certain aspects of him in order to become your own man. A similar story to young Bruce, only Dick fights off the demons Batman could not, receiving proper closure over his parents' deaths
>Jason Todd: The one who brought out the true failures of Batman's character. Showing him there are real consequences to brining a young man with you to fight crime. Now returned to haunt his mentor's thoughts forever, while finding a more violent outlet for his frustrations.
>Damian Wayne: The one whose nature should make him the ideal successor, but the nurture side of things was a complete disaster. At long last, subtext become text, Robin is Batman's true son, and the ultimate test of his abilities as both a mentor and a parent.

>Tim Drake: The one who happened in between all that.

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>ultimate test of his abilities as both a mentor and a parent
Looking at the current state of their relationship I'm pretty sure he's failed the test

>Dick Grayson: The one who closed Batman's heart because he can't be a nice guy with Dick around
FIFY, OP.

>Tim Drake: The fandom bicycle. Precious cinnamon roll who does nothing wrong and is a sassy bat!
Kill me.

I hate tumblr so fucking much

>Dick Grayson: A manslut who resents his younger siblings. The Golden Boy, despite the fact that he rivals Tim in mary-sue activities. Only liked because he's the first Robin.
FTFY again.

So Batman's not been a nice guy since 1940?

Prior to the Flashpoint, Tim was the one who convinced Batman that he needed a Robin to balance him (doubly so since he was losing it after Jason died). In a way Dick and Tim were the Robins who saved Batman/made him more human while Jason & Damian were the Robins Batman saved.
Stephanie (at least Robin-wise) just sort-of happened.

>Dick Grayson: The ultimate Mary Sue and "Better than Batman!!" fanservice character
HYPER FIX.

Tim was the one who brought Bruce back from the edge after Jason died.

Tim's problem is that he's not being used right now and before that writers were using him the wrong way.Since all the other Robins are on teams right now, it would make sense to put him on Slade's new team but he's being held prisoner by Mr. Oz.

>while Jason & Damian were the Robins Batman saved
That quite ironic since they are the ones who died.

Thomas told him to be a good parent and stop being Batman, I'm pretty sure he at least try to be a better parent

>Jason Todd: literally edgy Batman loved by teenage girls who woobify him and 16 year olds who think he's 'badass' because he kills
>Tim Drake: literal self-insert who is now so irrelevant he got locked in a prison and never mentioned for nearly a year
>Damian Wayne: edgy OC made to be killed off in a perpetual state of learning then unlearning character development

You missed the part about Tim possibly being more woobiefied than Jason.

Jason Todd: edgy and badass
This why he's best boy.

He likes Damian tho

Both Tim and Dick are more woobiefied than Jason and Damian by the fandom.

Like, there’s fanart of Dick crying in Jason's manly arms.

He liked Tim as well. The only one he didn't have a good relationship with at first was Jason, and even then they ended up getting along pretty well while Jason was Robin

Not surprising when Jaydick is so popular, I think Jaytim is even more popular too. They're both absolute garbage ships though

>getting along pretty well
This quite the overstatement.

Will Robinfags ever get along?

It's the ass, having him do anything but being on the bottom is a waste, so naturally teenage girls write him as a women.

I notice Tim being mentally unstable/neglected/whatever to be more common in fanfiction.

Nope, they will forever be salty because DC always pits the Robins against each other (except Dick and Damian I guess)

In a perfect world, yes.
But in reality, probably not.

They did get along after the burger scene before King destroyed the peace with his power ranking list.

What's this from?

Who's the one on the right?

Carrie Kelly. Gotham Knight

Only the Dick and Damian fans.

The rest of them, no.

What now?

Dickwank will never not be gay, y'all are legitimate faggots

>masturbating makes you a faggot

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The obvious happened.

I remember that. They were really friendly with each and were desperately wishing for Robins book.

It didn't last for long.

No they didn't, user. Dick is likable by everyone but Jason was too far up his own ass to accept Dick's brotherly proposals. Dude always had arrogance.

One of the issues of the Batman: The Brave & The Bold comic. The story is called "Batman Dies at Dawn"

This isn't true.

Jason really admired Dick, but it was Dick who kept his distance because he was jealous.

Tim Drake: The smartest one because he figured out who Batman is and then went on to dress like a red & black spaceghost and name himself after a restaurant chain.

This is the thread where my comic neophyte is showing

I completely don't know who Tim Drake is.

Just to make sure, Dick is the original robin right? Do Tim; Dick, Jason have same trapeze circus history?

>Tim has more porn than Dick
>Tim has more crossover porn fucking anime girls
FUCK SELF INSERTERS

I always kind of felt like Tim was the heart of the family before Infinite Crisis. He was the one who managed to get Bruce to realize that he needed a partner to keep him level. Through his friendship and eventual fraternal bond, Dick came to stow some of his anger over Bruce and found it in himself to be man enough to repair that relationship. He gave Steph and Helena a chance when no one else would, and the two became staunch allies to Bruce because of it.

And it's not like he was perfect. His self doubt was his biggest enemy, always waiting for a new Robin to step in kept him from gaining confidence in his own ability as a sidekick and later partner to Batman. His personal life was always an issue since he still had a civilian identity not tied to Bruce beyond temporary guardianship when his dad was in a coma, and having to deal with the mission and wanting to tell his dad but knowing he couldn't was a big deal.

Beyond that, Tim's story wasn't that dependent on Bruce. He had his own series with his own villains, headed up his own team with their own issues as well, and had to juggle his personal life in between all of that. Tim's story was that of a normal kid trying his best in a world that he felt didn't suit him, and growing as a person despite it.

And then Infinite Crisis happened and woobie Mary Sue was born.

Poor Tim. Duke should be last.

Dick was pretty much a shit to Jason because Bruce gave him Dick's old identity. Jason's kind of justified in being an asshole to Dick.

Wait, which one is Jason? The tall guy? Is he really the tallest Robin?

Dick is the original. Jason having a circus background was only pre-crisis, post crisis he was a troubled youth.
Tim pre-Flashpoint was something of a fanboy who had seen the Flying Graysons and eventually managed to figure out Dick & Bruce's identities. After Bruce went nuts post Death-In-The-Family, Tim tried to get Dick to go back to being Robin and, failing that, became Robin himself.
From what I understand Flashpoint messed up his backstory.

Think these stats are from that encyclopedia that came out recently:
>Nightwing: 5'10", 175 lbs
>Red Hood: 6'0", 225 lbs
>Robin: 4'6", 84 lbs
>Batman: 6'2", 210 lbs

>Jason below kate and helana
>bruce below dick
>duke ahead of anyone

Which one?

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Thanks! Okay, that makes sense. I watched and read the Kelly story but who's the other female Robin unless that's just batgirl but blond

I always thought that Tim Drake would make the best Batman because he doesn't have psychological issues; he's an orphan, of course, but he didn't saw his parents die.
Dick isn't better than Bruce, he is just as good as bruce in action and judgement. So Dick isn't the best option; he's the one who sees things just like Bruce.
Bruce probably thinks he is the best already. So he doesn't need a successor who's better than him, he needs a successor who is just like him.

> Dick Grayson: Also raises Batman's other son because he can't be bothered to do it.

That's Stephanie Brown. She initially took up the identity of Spoiler, but moved onto the Robin mantle (not sure what Tim was doing during this time, he was initially meant to be meeting up with Ted Kord before plans changed). She didn't last too long in the mantle before she was killed off. It was later retconned so that her doctor faked her death and she eventually became Batgirl up until the Flashpoint and then disappeared for a while until getting reintroduced in Batman Eternal.

Jaydick is closing in on JayTim for some reason. At least in fic popularity

>Didn't see his parents die
He totally came in just as Jack was dying.

Jason and Dick since Robin War/Eternal are probably at teir best relationship point

Because Tim hasn't been around in the comics in forever. Most popular gay Batship used to be TimKon, now you're lucky if it's not just background noise.

Nope Dick was an asshole, which he regretted and made up for by being a better brother to Tim.

Because its etter and shippers are finally getting good taste

JayDick is the superior ship because they are the least brother like and nobody is a neglected woobie

> Robin thread
> Full of shitting on each other
> Gay talk

Guys please

Do Dick and Jason get along now?

We all know Dick is gonna win but you guys may yet surprise me

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Yes. Since Tim has died the entire family has improved

New 52 pretty much ignored all the reasons Jason didn't like Dick and started him off as a straight antihero rather than a villain so yeah.

Though they still tend to pair Tim and Jason up whenever all the Robins are together.

> Tim dies
> Things get better

Hmmmm

Strangely enough I liked the Tim and Jason pairing, even though it came at the expense of Dick and Tim. That said the little Dick and Jason we've gotten is pretty good too.

Not really. Rebirth has just been all around decent to great. Tim's absence is not due to this.

What Dick and Jason moments have we gotten? I'm not up to date yet.

So while we're talking about Robins, will there ever be a Batman adaptation that has all four of them (because DC will probably never acknowledge Stephanie)? The DCAU skipped Jason, the DCAMU/Lego DTVs skipped Jason & Tim, Lego Batman only went up to Tim (Damian being DLC for Lego Batman 2 and Jason being unlockable in Lego Batman 3) and Injustice is probably closest, but Tim still only appears in the comic.

One of the Nightwing issues had the two of them talking about Dick dating Shawn.

Hopefulyl some day. Young Justice had 3, although Jasonw as dead, Arkham games also had 3 and Damian still has a chance to appear.

Why is it edgy to kill people who are an immediate threat to the safety and lives of the innocent?SWAT teams do this, are they edgelords?

>Dick Greyson: Batman, if he were allowed to have complex and varied emotions as well as character development.

Raise your fucking child Bruce. Damien is the only non orphan but behaves the most like one because his father is more emotionally distant than a corpse.

No wonder Damien sees Dick as a father more than you.

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To be fair, Bruce was dead when Dick made Damian Robin.
The DTVs on the other hand...

Dick is a better dad anyway despite being a slut. He should just adopt Damian and turn his book into Nightwing and Robin. Not like Batman and Robin is happening anyway.

Where's the wheelchair Babsfag?

Wheres Helena also why is Babs so manly?

The first one is the only good one

It's like the reverse of Dick and Damian relationship, in a way.

I actually prefer the dynamics like that One is happy mentor/broody tutor as an opposite of Bruce and Dick

Then Tim and Jason complement each other by being a techs strategist while the other is a streetwise bruiser.


Now since this is still a Robin thread, unpopular opinion time: I want a Red Hood and the Outlaws team featuring Jason, Donna, and Kyle and written by someone who can handle them, like Marz or Winnick.

That truly is an unpopular opinon user But I understand cause I want Huntress out of that terrible BoP book and with the Outlaws.

Dick and Jason is the strangest Robin pairing. They are both the most alike and the most different at the same time. I think they couldve been good friends without all the resentment.

They really missed the opportunity for a Checkmate book that the end of Grayson sort of put together.

Killing is inherently edgy.

Is Jason always going to be paired with amazon girl types? And kiddish guys?
Because I approve.

Jason, Donna, and Kyle have always been my faves. Countdown would have been my dream book, except. You know. It was still Countdown.

> dat #1

I ain't even mad.

name one thing grayson did wrong

>Damian Wayne
Damian a shit. People attribute more importance to him because >muh legacy through being Batman's son even though he doesn't deserve it.

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>implying fucking with Barbara is a bad thing
Babs is worst girl and deserves pain

I don't know why these homos are so salty about which Robin is the best, I love them all.

Thats what Babs deserves though

That sounds pretty homoerotic, the whole thing.

To bad brothers in blood is the most we got about them

Remember when Tim was basically DC's Peter Parker in the ninities? Me neither.

Interesting thing here for why Tim is hard to fit into the larger picture. His importance is directly tied to Jason's death. His near twenty year run is swept under the rug because the very foundation for his character requires Batman to be off kilter from a specific story.

That makes sense. In the DCAU, he was meant to be an amalgamation of all three Robins (with Jason having the heaviest influence) while in the DCAMU, Jason never become Robin and thus neither did Tim.
The weird part is that in the New 52, Jason still died but Tim's backstory got changed.