Does anyone else worry about the future of film? For me the quality of the average film has never been worse...

Does anyone else worry about the future of film? For me the quality of the average film has never been worse. I understand the theatre experience will most likely transition to the living room but will that be enough to save it from self destruction?

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>tfw no more zinger

cell phones can't be un-invented, so attention spans will continue to shrink and the lowest-common-denominator will continue to be increasingly catered to in entertainment

there will always be art, but it will be harder to find among vast oceans of dross

me homgry form sandwich

This was the wrong image but the Zinger Stacker is still a KFC staple. Why can't you eat it? Is a restrictive diet part of your New Year's resolution?

they dont sell zingers in my area anymore, all they have for sandwiches are the chicken littles

>tfw hungover

i want to eat that so badly

After Star Wars I could not welcome the time any more.

I’m 27, I’ve seen the movies, supported the IP since I was a kid, bought countless toys, video games, and now I’m to watch The Last Jedi and basically be programmed through subtle gestures that I’m an idiot and the real life equivalent of Kylo Ren.

No, fuck Hollywood.

They really have destroyed society. I fucking hate it when I have my family around and there are moments when everyone is just tinkering away in their own world on their phone. They're so fucking detrimental to socialisation, attention and focus.

Domestically, Hollywood shit will continue getting worse until the market can no longer sustain itself and inevitably collapse.
However, the Chinese will most likely acquire the remains and keep a husk of Hollywood running into the foreseeable future. This shit may never end as long as brainlets keep going out to see these worthless movies on the big screen.

>they dont sell zingers in my area anymore
Do you live in the fucking 3rd world?

ohio

>For me the quality of the average film has never been worse.
jews jewing

hollywood needs a hard reboot

>programmed to believe you're the best and most likable character in the movie
? What's wrong with that?

Film was always a fundamentally limited, constrained and puerile medium. It only existed to begin with because the technology wasn't ready for continuous television story arcs or video games. Let movies die with a modicum of dignity, as a stepping stone to something better.

>I understand the theatre experience will most likely transition to the living room but will that be enough to save it from self destruction?
It could, but that means the big screen will die. It's already undergoing a slow but steady death as it is.

So, yes.

Sounds about right. Did you know that USA is the only country in which KFC is losing market share and revenue? It's a half decent franchise everywhere else.

Who cares? You realize TVs these days are about as big as movie theater screens, right? Just move the blockbusters to Netflix. Look how successful Bright is.

Same in Michigan, I miss them

which is strange because youd think it would become more popular with the growing mutt population

Dont get me wrong user i get where you’re coming from but I don’t appreciate the fuck you Disney gives to white men and I don’t appreciate them programming society to scapegoat all its problems onto me

Am I naive in thinking Hollywood could turn that around with one Summer where there investment isn't pants on head retarded?
Look at the films released in Summer this year: who would go see those, let alone spend hundreds of millions of dollars to produce each film? It's a mind bogglingly stupid business model.

time to move on from disney then, stop watching their garbage in a vain attempt to relive childhood dreams

Definitely. I just wish other white men weren’t so weak.

It's obviously poorly run in the USA. It's predominantly embraced by poor niggers yet charges exorbitant rates, it hasn't innovated in any way for decades, its menu is completely archaic and the quality of food, particularly for the price, is abysmal. I would've thought being the home of fried chicken it would be decent but my god, it's not fit to wipe the ass of KFC from my country, let alone somewhere like Japan where it's shockingly good.

Yes. Hollywood has burned bridges with half the country and quickly burning bridges with the other more retarded half

Kfc is considered high tier eating over there in japan, also good work ethics ensure quality control

>Look how successful Bright is.
kek

The disney shills are here

We're going to be out of art entirely by 2020

Yes, but they could offset their losses in audiences by not spending ridiculous amounts of production and marketing.
I use it a lot but look at Split as an example, it's nothing extraordinary in any way but it's a film that cost only $9 million to produce and I'm sure marketing wasn't much more. Yet it made almost $300 million worldwide. Using that as a business model opposed to spending $200 on each tentpole movie that either barely breaks even or bombs, they could completely and utterly transform their earnings in a year. Although even if they did that they'd probably attribute the earnings to some ridiculous anomaly. I can't believe just how stupid Hollywood execs actually are.

I'm not sure what your point was other than to reiterate what I'd already said.

No they really can’t.

They’re creatively exhausted, politically polarizing and the theater is not enticing enough for 95% of the movies being released. Even if they did as you say the quality of the movies wouldn’t get any better because they’re self-absorbed douchebags with rimmed classes whose hubris will forever shield them from the truth

>Does anyone else worry about the future of film?
Not really, honestly. I worry about video games a million times more than film.

Say what you will about the absolute cancer that is 99% of Hollywood trash, but there's the occasional passable film that comes out. And the indie scene is stronger than ever.

Meanwhile, gaming is utterly dead in the west. I'd have to go back a decade to find a game I enjoyed from a western publisher. And Japan is being utterly gutted by the gacha-dominated phone market.

only big budget mainstream kino went to shit. The rest of kino is still quality.

>"""good""" movies of old

>Does anyone else worry about the future of film?
the quality of film has been transferred to television

Except then you massively increase the number of movies released each year. Audience fatigue is real, most people will not go to the cinema more than once a month. Once a week is unrealistic, and the number of small films you'd have to put out would be insane.

It'd be a million times more entertaining for film fans, but utterly baffling to your average normie. How are they supposed to know which movie to go and see when there are 50 showing a week?

As an extremely casual gamer... Xbox 360 only... I am definitely turned off at how there is no singular game everyone plays anymore. Its like a call of duty comes out and its popular for a month and everybody moves on. Definitely deterred me from buying an Xbox One or Ps4, not to mention they release a new console every year now which I would never pay to keep current on, or the fact that I could buy an Xbox One today and five years from now its slow as shit due to “””software upgrades”””

OK yeah, that's pretty much nowhere.

>They’re creatively exhausted, politically polarizing and the theater is not enticing enough for 95% of the movies being released. Even if they did as you say the quality of the movies wouldn’t get any better because they’re self-absorbed douchebags with rimmed classes whose hubris will forever shield them from the truth

Execs have always been creatively exhausted, they have never, ever been creative. The best periods in film have always been when they've given filmmakers complete control of their films or simply spent more money purchasing from, and subsequently fostering, the independent industry. When they try and dictate everything audiences reject it.
It comes in cycles and sooner or later Hollywood will step back on control and simply focus on investing in the right people but this current period feels like it's dragged on longer than any other creative slump.

I don't think that would really be a problem. In fact, you want to offset it, drop the price in cinema tickets marginally. Boom

For me, it's the Mcchicken. The best fast food sandwich.

Creatively maybe... I doubt the market will wait around for that. Politics, don’t think so, I don’t think the politics are going anywhere as its in everything now, and the main reason I go out of my way to make an effort to not give Hollywood my money

damn I'm hungry

I don't think there's any coming out of this slump, honestly. Disney might have tanked Star Wars, but Marvel shows no signs of slowing despite being utterly creatively bankrupt trash made for complete morons. I like to imagine people looking back in 30 years and wondering why anyone ever watched children's movies, but it's not realistic.

That wouldn't offset anything, are you stupid? People don't avoid the cinema because of the expense, they avoid it because it's a trip out. Most people don't have the time to go see a new movie every night of the week, which is what you'd have to do if you wanted to keep up. The movie business is all about timing.

>marvel shows no signs of slowing

Say what you will about BvS but Justice League’s box office is an omen for marvel. You’re fucking dumb if you believe otherwise.

>That wouldn't offset anything, are you stupid? People don't avoid the cinema because of the expense, they avoid it because it's a trip out

Are you retarded or just limited to your own experiences? Do you know how many families would attend viewings more frequently if it wasn't such an expensive outing. You don't target every person with each movie, you target viewers with each film and if you're producing more and they're less expensive to see you're going to increase your market.

You’re both right you fucking retards

Its the price AND its a trip out, jesus

>>Say what you will about BvS but Justice League’s box office is an omen for marvel.
You're kidding, right? JL was coming off a piece of shit movie nobody liked, with returning characters people already knew they didn't like.

Meme-off 8 is going to do just fine, because they haven't destroyed audience's expectations with trash yet. As long as the movie doesn't make any waves, which it won't, it'll do fine.

Most people spend more on concessions than the fucking ticket if they're going with their family. It's a night out, and most people don't have the surplus income or time to foot the bill more than once a fortnight.

So logically if the trip out were less expensive more people would partake?

There is already a pretty big divide between mainstream films and art films. It will become even bigger in the future with mainstream films ending up in streaming services and art films in film festivals.
Hopefully in the future film will be as elitist as theater or opera today.

>It's a night out, and most people don't have the surplus income or time to foot the bill more than once a fortnight.

Then how in the fuck is reducing the flat rate of a ticket going to impede that? You really think it's not going to create more people going than otherwise, particularly if there is a more extensive selection of films?

Suicide squad being shit had no impact on Justice League. It’s the fact that there’s no fucking novelty in superhero movies. Justice League wasn’t even that bad. It’s a fucking Avengers-tier team up that grossed less than Dr. Strange. People don’t give a shit about superhero movies anymore.

Yup, it was a good movie.
Like, did you see star wars and justice league?
Bright was actually good.

>Hopefully in the future film will be as elitist as theater or opera today.
Literally what Spielberg and Lucas envisioned. They suggested going to the cinema would soon become a marquee event with a ticket cost similar to that of a broadway show and all other films would be seen via streaming services at home.

>Hopefully in the future film will be as elitist as theater or opera today.
You're never going to get film watchers to pay those kinds of prices. The reason shit like the opera is elitist and expensive is because it isn't shit recorded on a screen, it's actual people in front of you.

Film will never have that when people have the option of just waiting half a year and watching the shit in their living rooms.

I'm saying that the decrease in cost won't make a fucking difference. The amount of tickets you sell because of it will probably barely cover the amount you lose by reducing them.

If you cut the price of something in half, you don't get double the customers. It's basic economics.

No. That’s not what i said. I for one hate dealing with retards at movie theaters. I’d never go if I could stream the blockbusters.

>I'm saying that the decrease in cost won't make a fucking difference. The amount of tickets you sell because of it will probably barely cover the amount you lose by reducing them.

That's assuming the line up of films is similar to the current, with a broader investment and more films produced you could easily increase viewings without any impact on revenue.

zinger stacker is the ultimate hangover cure

>KFC is my area made me sick two weeks in a row because they under-cook the chicken

Little shits, learn how to actually cook meat

You're using your own preferences as a basis for comparison. It's likely your viewing preferences only match a small percentage of the population.

Actually no, and the market is proving that. In fact it’s viewed as an inevitable shift for a reason. Nice try. If anything, your love for the movie theater experience is distorting your perspective about how the general public feels.

You must be delusional if you think the majority of people prefer the big screen. If you offered people the choice of paying the exact same price for a 1080p 1 time streaming ticket, I guarantee most of the market would vanish from theatres.

Saying i have a love for the theatre experience is presumptuous. I went to the cinema once in 2017. I think the best thing studios could do to combat this is to improve the quality of films produced. Secondary to this increasing the breadth of diversity in film produced and reducing the cost of admission would be the next best beneficial implementation.
All three would ensure records box office. There is no doubt in my mind.

I feel the same way but for many it still exists as a social or family experience.

You can improve the quality of films all you want but it isn’t going to compensate for the white lights glaring in the pitch black from douchebags on their phones during the movie or the group of 9-10 high schoolers ruining it by talking the whole time

>tfw no double down

But it will. You'll never remove that faggot but I'm sure for every person offput by not going to a cinema cause there might be an irritating person in the cinema you'll increase your average attendance if wider audiences actually want to see the film.

No more Works Burger you mean.

Putting pineapple on a bacon and cheese was burgerkino.

>for many it still exists as a social or family experience.
No, it doesn't. Nothing is stopping people from running the movie in their own homes, which is what people have been doing for the past 30 years.

The sole reason the movie theatre persists is because of the time delay. Thousands would close if same day streaming existed.

>Works Burger
Total faggot detected. If you had suggested the Zinger Tower, then I might have been able to empathise, but the Works? Holy shit. You are worse than Stalin. Everything you think should be used as a blueprint for what not to do with society.

Again, I feel like you're underestimating the allure of going out for many normal people/families.
However, even if we're ignoring that they model I suggested of investing more across a wider range of films with a smaller budget would increase viewers because it would mean you could offer more to keep your subscribers interested.
There is zero, ZERO, reason to be investing hundreds of millions of dollars on a handful of films each year.

I don’t think the quality of movies could be upped to such an extent. We’re talking Star Wars 1 quality catching lightning in a bottle movies to get people out of the house.

Leaving the comforts of your own home for a shared experience with the braindead general public is just too much to ask for the common man.

For instance, last movie I went to, dumbasses were sitting in my reserved seats. Why the fuck would I repeatedly subject myself to bullshit like that when I can watch it at home?

The general public killed movie theaters.

>I don’t think the quality of movies could be upped to such an extent.
Audiences might have said that in the late 60s and late 80s. Both periods came with Hollywood changing their methodology. There is a thousand brilliant unproduced scripts created every year. 100s of those could be produced, and find an audience, with a pittance compared to Hollywood's average spending.

Yeah but it’s not like streaming was an option and TVs sucked so it’s a false equivalency

I don't want to get into a whole thing here but I've had that and I just said to the person, "that's my seat", they've always moved without issue. It's irritating but you really consider that more detrimental to the cinematic experience than films like Last Jedi for increased attendance?

That makes no sense. My point was specifically about changed distribution or production strategies, studios could easily embrace the streaming option and deliver us a higher quality film experience and higher profits for themselves.

No I doubt mind that. Star Wars actually feels more social because it has something for everybody. It’s maybe the one movie I’d see with my family, and when we get out we can reach a commoj ground. But on average I hate dealing with retards at movie theaters for any of the myriad possible things that could go wrong. The general public ruins everything.

>For me the quality of the average film has never been worse
Because you don't actually know much about the history of film.The movie industry has always been a business first, and the ability to turn a profit has always mattered more than quality. This was especially true before VHS became popular and most movies were treated as disposable because they were only meant to be seen once. In general, probably at least 90% of the movies released every year are garbage, and the system has always been like that; most people just don't realize because they only remember the good ones.

Why are you so angry about pineapple on a burger user?

I'm not sure I've seen a better example of redditor-esque pseudo-intellectual film expert.
Is this pasta?

Because I have tastebuds and am willing to defend the rights of all that do.

Just watch more movies that are on a smaller budget and have 8/10 or better user or critic ratings.

Big budget 50-100mil+ is mostly garbage and has always been garbage save for the odd 200-300+ epic

Not that user, but a teriyaki grilled chicken with a slice of grilled pineapple topped with a light aioli sauce served on a soft heated bun is delicious.

He's not wrong though, Hollywood has always been trash.

They do down here.

Pineapple on pizza is one thing, but pineapple on burger is good.

>why wont they bring it back...

>pineapple on burger is good

>No Stacker Tower
I want a hashbrown with my breasts.
Is that so wrong?

It's just a stacker but with mayo instead of supercharged sauce and only 1 piece of cheese.

I work as a burger flipper so yes I know what I'm talking about.

Exactly. So let film die. Instead of eternally harkening back to some brief golden age of auteur filmmakers in the 70's, just let film degrade return to its natural state of intellectually insulting schlock, and turn your attention to new media that open up.

How about some none trash food?
pillsbury.com/recipes/grilled-teriyaki-chicken-sandwiches/207ddd19-aefa-4bea-b55a-6bd31a323b13

how do you even eat that mess?

This, I live in Australia and when I visited the USA the KFC was worse. I thought it would've been the opposite.