*improves you're franchise*

*improves you're franchise*

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>drops space fairy tale theme of franchise
>box office numbers begin to fall
>saves franchise
Sure, right. Whatever you say, OP.

>improves
He dug the grave, and Solo will push it in.

Thanks, based Rian.

I didn't mind this scene. Why did you mind it?

>kills your franchise
No one asked for a shitty post-post-postmodern deconstruction of Star Wars

>your

>No one asked for a shitty post-post-postmodern deconstruction of Star Wars


I did.

Just like OP's grammar, this movie sucks.

ngl this is the least of it's problems

Except it's piss poor terrible even at what it's trying to do, KOTORII already did it much better

They turn the prince of our space fairy tale into a disgusting old geezer. Look at how dignified Obi-Wan and Yoda were in the OT - where Yoda was only pretending to be an old weirdo.

he saved the franchise from itself, brainlet

That's not what made Star Wars successful though and by abandoning theme, they are jeopardizing its future.

Wrong. That and the murder Ben scene are at the heart of the problem.

>i-if brainlets didn't get it then that means it must be bad!
Umm, sometimes sales need to suffer for artistic integrity, sweetie.

He did no such thing. The franchise could have very well continued upholding the space fairy theme of the OT. That is what attracted people to SW to begin with.
But they, like you, never understood this secret to Star Wars' success. They thought it was all in the action, the drama and the funny moments. But it's just another movie in space without the fairy tale arc. It will never be able to live up the legacy of the OT without it.

*sucks cock*

It's too big of a target to ignore. The point of post structuralism is to highlight contradictions and undermine duality.

Star Wars is chock full of both so it was going to happen eventually -- if not in an actual piece of Star Wars media, then in an parody or something barely disguised as "not star wars".

Like it or not, Star Wars has been a big enough deal for a long enough time that it has entered the ongoing cultural dialectic. There's no going back now.

But we get it, we just don't like it. What YOU don't get, otoh, just like Disney, is what made Star Wars the phenomenon that is was.
It's funny to see low-IQ people like you calling other people brainlets though. Fortunately, I can pick you apart for all to see in this thread.

>That's not what made Star Wars successful though and by abandoning theme, they are jeopardizing its future.


Who cares? Why do you feel the need to support SW as a brand?

Then do it in an offshoot, why do it in a direct sequel?
Also, The Last Jedi fails at even doing that, simply by being a "deconstruction" doesn't make a movie automatically good

You can do that but if you expect to maintain the standing of the franchise by doing so, you're an utter fool, I'm afraid.
Say it with me: the OT has attained its standing by being a space fairy tale. Abandon that theme at your own peril and witness its decline.

>n-n-n-n-n-no u!
Help, I'm being picked apart by a debating master!

As a fan, I care about the OT and its legacy. The sequels are destroying its legacy, they have tainted its happy end. I hope Disney, Kennedy and Johnson will come to rue the day.

So so soooo glad to see a positive thread on here. This board has a neckbeard problem, and it tends to bring down the general discourse. Nothing will satisfy an army of angry GamerGaters stewing in their own contempt and nihilism.

This film was FANTASTIC. I was so-so on TFA. It still held onto the past with too much reverence. It almost felt like fan fiction, like it was consciously aping Lucas's style and his point-of-view.

Let's face it... Star Wars needed a real overhaul. It needed to be brought into the 21st century. It isn't going to be this narrow, parochial little thing enjoyed by a few alienated white dudes and manchildren anymore. It's got to mean something new to a generation that's grown beyond the original vision.

The team at Disney (Kennedy, the Story Group, and others) have set up a bright, diverse, and exciting canvas for creators to paint on in the future. This film was about letting the past die, and I loved that element of it. It was exactly right.

So so so so glad to see I'm not alone in seeing its many great qualities. This is OUR Star Wars now. The Force doesn't belong to a few embittered neckbeards anymore. It belongs to the world. And that's fucking beautiful.

Yes, I have reduced you to ad hominem as a substitute for your lacking arguments. It was that easy.

Sorry, all this elicits in me is one big shrug.

He saved the franchise from being good?

Honestly i kinda have mixed feelings about this sw. I hate parts about luke n the pointless scenes in the casino.
But i love other parts like the rey n kylos chemistry.
So i would say he did improve some n fucked up some

>he made it better
>it's still not good
Only the brainlets think it's anything remotely """"good"""" for some reason.

That's fine. As long as no one has a counter-argument of any substance, the debate is going to tilt my way.

>feminism didnt ruin star w-

there's an i missing in
>the women who run the star wars universe

*ruins your franchise*

Don't forget completely alienates all male fans of the franchise, regardless of race thanks to him and Kennedy.

Your 'argument' relies on assigning value to something which I simply don't value.


It only works if people accept your premise.

A. There is evidence for Star Wars OT being a space fairy tale.
B. There is evidence for the popularity of the OT.
C. There is evidence for the PT moving from fairy tale to politica aka space opera
D. There is evidence for dropping appreciation for the PT.

People didn't hate the prequels because they tried to be more space opera like, they hated them for bad choreography, lazy use of CGI, atrocious dialogue, overly elaborate, but meaningless plots, and questionable visual design.

birthmoviesdeath.com/2017/12/20/the-curious-case-of-the-last-jedi-and-its-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score

Is this writer legit or is he lying?

In one of my most recent nightmares I dreamed of him getting hired by Naughty Dog, and "improving" their videogame franchises.

Definitely lying. TLJ's scores not just on RT but also on Metacritic and IMDB from users are pretty bad, from "mixed" to downright negative outside of critics.

The Luke who cared so much about his friends that he left Dagobah to help them against Yoda's wishes and even redeemed his monstrous evil father is now also the Luke who abandoned his friends to fight the First Order alone and considered assassinating his nephew for being too strong

Everything Yoda told you about the Force in ESB? Forget that as well. The Dark Side is just a natural balance in the Force. Forget about how life creates it, makes it grow. Forget about how the light is using the Force to foster life, and the dark is using the Force to destroy it, thus using the Force against itself. Good and evil are relative, there is only gray area

Ep 8 turns Luke into an attempted child murdering coward who dies for nothing

Well he's not RIGHT. I wouldn't say he's lying, because he THINKS he being legit, but honestly it's just wilful ignorance. It's not just Rotten Tomatoes that shows massive consumer disapproval. It has terrible user scores in basically all of the score aggregators. But most importantly, it had a very strong box office opening, followed by an enormous, unprecedented drop off. The mechanism is clear: lots of people went to see the movie, lots of people were dissatisfied, and they told their friends and family not to bother.

Name a space opera can live up to the hype of the OT then.

That's what I figured as much on. Looking at viewer/audience scores and reactions to TLJ not just on RT but also IMDB and Metacritic has this film bad. I figured that word of mouth is pretty much killing it.

Why is he trying to equate the backlash against TLJ with the Ghostbusters reboot?

Because the only people who would defend TLJ are the same sycophants who would defend the Ghostbusters reboot

What is wrong with drinking milk?

Are you a soy boy?

Jupiter Ascending

I like the mental gymnastics the writer of that article goes through acting as if making new accounts from people pissed off at the newest Star Wars movie is a weird thing.

>MUH LUKE
>MUH JEDI BOOKS

Okay, that's the point where we can end this conversation.

>hating on soy
enjoy your heart attack, burger

Uh, milk is a symbol of white supremacy, duh.

>Jupiter Ascending
Pic related

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