>be the rebels >princess leia arrives with a scoundrel, a wookie, and the son of darth vader/anakin skywalker >"yea fuck it let's give the son of Darth Vader a free X-Wing to blow up the death star. Surely he's not gonna double cross us."
SURELY the Rebels would have known Luke was Vader's son. Surely somebody knew the lore. It was literally roughly 20-26 years before. How did nobody tell him before Vader in Empire??
2-3 years are supposed to pass between ANH and ESB. You're telling me Luke didn't look up any info on his father? Nobody told him?
Kinda weird...
Alexander Watson
They didn't know he was Vader's son. Luke didn't even know yet. Are you retarded?
Carson Ross
The whole point was that only Obi Wan knew (and obviously Vader and Luke's Aunt/Uncle).
Leo Bell
Are you sure you watched episode 3?
Mason Lee
Also did anyone even know Vader was Anakin? Like everyone probably thought Anakin died and Vader was just some random sith that Sheev dug up. Obi-Wan knew but he became a hermit with the sand people.
Ryan Sanchez
>SURELY the Rebels would have known Luke was Vader's son. why would any of the Rebels know that Vader had children? There were only a handful of people in the room when Padme gave birth. Anakin's marriage to Padme was secret. Only Bail Organa, Obi Wan, Yoda and maybe some droids knew about the kids.
Obi-wan literally watched the security cams to find out it was Anakin.
Noah Sanchez
Yea, so there's evidence he was Darth Vader. This is the dumbest shit of all time. NOBODY in the Rebel Alliance knew Anakin was Vader? Really?
Angel Walker
>SURELY the Rebels would have known Luke was Vader's son. Surely somebody knew the lore. Well everyone on Bail Organa's diplomatic staff is dead by the time ANH starts and I doubt he, Yoda, and Obi-Wan talked about it ever after Obi-Wan and Yoda went into exile. There's a difference between lore and history--things that are commonly known to the audience may not be known at all to the characters. In fact, there's a name for this narrative technique: dramatic irony.
Are you just trying to troll me, OP?
Cameron Rodriguez
Senator Organa only. IIrc there was an ending scene in the prequels where Obiwan, Yoda, and Organa had a conversation that was pretty much set up to be the start of the rebellion.
And given that his adopted daughter is the daughter of Darth Vader, I doubt he cares Luke is
Plus he was dead anyway
Alexander Howard
You mean like how nobody knew Leia was Vader's daughter either?
Nolan Martinez
who the fuck knew besides Obi wan and yoda who were in fucking hiding and trying to keep luke off the radar of the Empire and its a galaxy of trillions of people its not like they were the only family that went by skywalker
Ryan Powell
They probably deleted it
Benjamin Rogers
Yeah it’s not like immediately after Episode III the empire had total control of the Planet and the Jedi Temple... Obviously Sheev wouldn’t want that getting out
Jaxson Nguyen
>Yea, so there's evidence he was Darth Vader. This is the dumbest shit of all time. NOBODY in the Rebel Alliance knew Anakin was Vader? Really? WHY would anyone know that Anakin was Vader? It was clear Obi Wan cut off his legs and arms and left him for dead on a lava planet. How would Obi Wan know that the Emperor turned him into a cyborg? More over, after Vader hunted down most of the Jedi in the universe (except for Yoda) who else would have been around to remember Anakin before he turned into Vader?
Charles Parker
They were short on pilots after all the minorities and women got blown up in Rogue One. Also this
Tyler Nguyen
Lucas was a hack
Parker Campbell
Go back watching soy wars: the last nu male
Tyler Bennett
Most people think of the Jedi as a myth and don't even know what the Sith might be, nobody suspected that a Sith Lord was running the Republic for a decade prior to crowning himself Emperor and didn't suspect afterward. It's like if someone told you the Queen of England is a space-lizard with magical blood from the future, even if it's true what are you going to do about it? It's beyond the scope of your daily experience, unless you're also from the same space-lizard future.
Logan Hall
Didn't like the new ones either, so get fucked.
Nicholas Robinson
Are you fuckin stupid? The whole point was to keep Luke and Leia's identity as quiet as possible for their own protection. There's no way Obi Wan and Jimmy Smits told anyone even inside the rebellion. Even Vader thought they were dead.
Sebastian Evans
>The Queen of England is a space-lizard with magical blood from the future It's like somebody finally understands me.
Michael Nelson
a better question is why Obi-Wan and Yoda were so focused on Luke being the last hope for the Yedi, I know they add Leia into the equation later, but shouldn't they have been concerned about Leia too? Even more in fact, she was a public figure if she demonstrated any force potential the whole galaxy would know...
Tyler Rogers
Luke wasn't really doing anything with his life, so it probably just made more sense to train him to be a Jedi than her. Leia was helping run the Rebel alliance. If Obi Wan had showed up at her door on Alderan and told her she was Vader's daughter and it was time to begin her Jedi training, do you really think he would have gotten anywhere with that?
Jack Peterson
>Most people think of the Jedi as a myth so they're just ignoring the bigass temples everywhere, the fact that they command the republic army and that most wars that the republic waged were for religious reasons against the sith?
Austin Cooper
>so they're just ignoring the bigass temples everywhere, the fact that they command the republic army and that most wars that the republic waged were for religious reasons against the sith? this is a pretty well documented plot hole created by the prequels by Lucas. looking at just the original trilogy, there is nothing that suggests any of that really, so it made sense then.
Easton Ross
>there is nothing that suggests any of that really >you fought in the clone wars?
Jeremiah Mitchell
>the bigass temples everywhere The ones the Empire burned down or repurposed? And anyway it's established that a lot of people don't agree with the Empire, enough that they topple it within 30 years of its establishment. Presumably, this was because a lot of people remembered the truth about the Jedi. There are plenty of worlds that Jedi rarely or never visit and plenty of people who never meet Jedi. Did you even watch The Phantom Menace?
Adam Rivera
>Obi-Wan didn't tell anybody? The fuck? Yeah, he was in hiding on a desert-planet on the outer rim of the galaxy. Did you expect him to keep a blog?
>But no security cams in the jedi temple. Ok. Obi-Wan and Yoda watch footage of Anakin killing the kids, and then Obi-Wan talks to Padme about watching footage of Anakin killing the kids.
It's been a while since you've watched them, huh? Me too, to be honest. Don't want to buy the blu-ray versions with the changes.
Daniel Campbell
and that's literally it, there was no elaboration on what the clone wars even were outside of retarded EU shit until the prequels
Luke Myers
>Be the rebels >Princess Leia, the daughter of Vader/Anakin Skywalker arrives at any rebel base at any point in time >"yea fuck it let's give the daughter of Darth Vader a commanding position in the rebelion against the Empire. Surely she's not gonna double cross us."
Pay attention to the movies you watch. The reasons for the secrecy were clearly established.
Eli Allen
>there was no elaboration on what the clone wars even were outside of retarded EU shit until the prequels Why would there need to be? I mean what the fuck are you even doing posting about this movie? Have you even watched it?
Nathaniel Robinson
Why would they need to elaborate on it outside of the conversation they had?
Nathaniel Brooks
read the reply chain you fucking retards
Eli Bennett
Yeah I'm part of it you DOUBLE FAGGOT
Gabriel Mitchell
There are a ton of temples and shit today, but most people don't believe that priests have magic powers. The jedi were rare, even during their height. Even in the prequels people were surprised as fuck to see them. If you consider how big the galaxy is and how far from anything jedi Tantooine is, it should be in no way surprising that most people don't think the jedi have magic powers.
Jordan Watson
2-3 years are supposed to pass between ANH and ESB. You're telling me Luke didn't look up any info on his father? Nobody told him?
1. Owen LIED to him, to protect him. Luke though Anakin Skywalker was a freighter pilot, and Owen was able to keep Luke in the dark because Tatooine is a backwater shithole with little connection to the rest of the galaxy. And he lived and worked on a moisture farm, which is an even more remote backwater shithole.
Nathaniel Nguyen
Right. So why would they need to elaborate on the Clone Wars outside of the conversation they had?
Camden Davis
There's like 2 trillion people on Coruscant alone. I bet there's at least a half million Anakin Skywalkers running around the galaxy.
James Wright
who the fuck cares if anyone knew that vader was anakin besides luke knowing who his father would be and maybe getting found?
Easton Lewis
I'm pretty sure everyone thought Anakin died during the Jedi purge also Anakin being married to Padme was a "secret" so they wouldn't be able to make the connection. This is a shit thread.
Brody Hall
how many of these threads are we going to have today? Is this some new bait or just straight shilling?
You're best friend / surrogate son who you've spent the majority of the last decade alone with turns evil meanwhile you become a fugitive in a galaxy under martial law. Meanwhile you have to hide, not one but two Anne Frank's. Who the fuck are you going to tell?
Austin Long
>Be Evil space wizard >Holograms show you giving your apprentice (war hero) Anakin Skywalker the order to murder the whole temple and even murder kids >Don't delete or at least hide the footage where no one could find it.
Ryder Sanchez
Dramatic irony the post.
They didn't know Vader was Anakin Skywalker - no one did. People knew he was Anakin's son, because before the Battle of Yavin the leader of red squadron said that he knew Luke's father and told him that he was a great pilot. This was in the deleted scene, so you subhumans wouldn't have known about this.