Spider-Man has more bad stories than good. Fact.
Spider-Man has more bad stories than good. Fact
Matthew Brooks
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Adam Peterson
that's true of literally every superhero ever created
even Watchmen was raped by Before Watchmen
Owen Lopez
Every character is like that.
If you can name 10 good stories from one character, then he is among the luckiest ones.
Benjamin Clark
>that's true of literally every superhero ever created
Nope.
>even Watchmen was raped by Before Watchmen
Not a valid example.
Alexander Cruz
>Nope.
Name one then.
>Not a valid example.
Explain why.
Logan White
>Name one then
Miracleman
Dominic Butler
>Name one then.
Batman.
>Explain why.
Watchmen was never supposed to be a franchise, the only reason Before Watchmen exists is because of the movie.
Hudson Wright
>Batman.
Batman has more shit stories than good ones.
Not even a critic. He has one of the best catalogs out there. But for every great story, there are 50 shitty ones.
Matthew Hill
Untrue. I bet your Batman knowledge begins and ends with Morrison's run at best.
David Ortiz
You couldn't be more wrong.
From Dixon onward, I've read every Tec and Batman issues.
Angel Wright
>From Dixon onward
Well, there's your problem then.
Carter Barnes
Miracleman existed long before Moore, you dumbass.
Nathan Jones
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Andrew Bailey
Maybe wouldn't be the case if Superior didn't run for a fucking millenia
Gavin Richardson
Superior gave us Superior Foes, so I'm thankful for its existence.
Dylan Carter
Not for much longer if Slott keeps going.
Joshua Carter
>implying Larry Hama wrote good Batman stories
Jaxson Nelson
name 10 god tier runs
Brayden Kelly
Prove it.
Kayden Barnes
>god tier
I said "good", not "amazing". Your argument is founded on a fallacy.
Kayden Foster
Daredevil
it's Spider-Man
people will buy it, regardless
Ian Rodriguez
I don't think the quality of popular Batman stories is much higher than the quality of popular Spider-man stories
Ayden Lee
Animal Man.
He's had so few runs that those that do exist have meticulously chosen writers.
Jose Reed
>Daredevil
This meme needs to die.
90's DD had more trash than good.
Matthew Jenkins
Care to name any bad periods for him other than Chichester?
Nathaniel Barnes
Wrong
Dominic Mitchell
They have more bad ISSUES than good ones, but they definitely have a large amount of greats stories. Decompression (and the lazy writing it encourages) is the problem.
Jason Foster
>Animal Man
The entire back half of his 80s run was fucking awful
Lincoln Walker
Every character has more forgettable stories than bad & good combined.
Evan Adams
Try reading Millars daredevil sometime.
Ryder Thomas
Alright, name me 20 good Spider-Man stories. People do that with Batman all the time, so a hero of Spidey's caliber should be up to the task.
They can be non-canon stories but they MUST feature Peter Parker as the main protagonist, so no Spider-Girl or the like.
Nathan Lopez
Spider-Man! (Origin story)
If This Be My Destiny
Spider-Man No More
Spider-Man Blue
Kraven's Last Hunt
Death of Jean DeWolf
High Tide
Death of The Stacies
Homecoming
Annual #1
The kid who collects Spider-Man
Birth of Venom
Nothing Can Stop The Juggernaut
Perceptions
Grimm Hunt
Until the stars turn cold
Spider-Man: Happy Birthday
Ultimate Clone Saga
Ultimate Spider-Man: Power & Responsibility
Ultimate Death of Spider-Man
Christopher Stewart
Not him, and not 20 cause I value my time, but have 10:
>If this be my destiny
>Spider-Man no more
>Kraven's Last Hunt
>The death of Jean DeWolff
>Spider-Man: Blue
>90s TV show Spider-Slayer arc
>Spectacular TV show Sinister Six arc
>Ultimate Spider-Man Clone Saga
>Grim Hunt
>Flowers for Rhino
Kevin Adams
>Kraven's Last Hunt
Kys
Henry Wright
OH YEAH WELL CHECK THIS OUT
Jackson Jackson
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Ian Gonzalez
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Eli Wood
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James Evans
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Hunter Sanders
I feel like single issues are cheating but fine, point conceded.
Elijah Bell
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Adam Clark
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Owen Kelly
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Ian Cox
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Elijah Hernandez
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Nathan Cruz
Singles issues cheating but not the fact that one guy mentioned tv shows? Hell with that kind of standard Spider-Man 2 also makes the cut.
Joshua Howard
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Ayden Thompson
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Lucas Diaz
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Juan Barnes
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Oliver Morris
There are only 4 single issues:
>Spider-Man!
>High Tide
>Annual #1
>The Kid Who Collected Spider-Man
So we're gonna replace them with:
>Back in Black
>Revenge of the Sinister Six
>Life in the Mad Dog Ward
and the fourth one can be either
>Spider-Man: Vengeance
>Spider-Man: Torment
or
>Spider-Man: Masques
Dylan Ross
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Henry Phillips
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Nolan Wood
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Samuel Baker
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Joshua Roberts
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Luke Green
points off for not including the child within
Juan Gray
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Oliver Rivera
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Carson Garcia
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Jaxon Mitchell
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Jace Brown
Keep in mind, one of the greatest batman stories ever told, according to normies, The killing Joke, was a single issue, so I'm not sure how single issues are cheating.
Josiah Wright
Such a shame it was retconned by Brand New Day
Carson Phillips
has it been completely retconned more like made inconsequential
Jace Jenkins
TV shows are fine because people mention stuff like Heart of Ice in "best of Batman" lists like all the time.
Fair enough.
That was more of a prestige one-shot, but yeah.
Luke Adams
I own this issue and Slott signed it
its his first Spider-Man story right? and one day he'll have the most of them ever I think
Leo James
But Spider-Man doesn't have any bad stories.
Liam Young
But superior foes has nothing to do with superior Spider-man other than the title and the fact that the sinister six only has 5 members.
Gabriel Rogers
Editorial doesn't hate Bruce in the way it hates Peter.
The problem with Spider-Man is that editorial has no idea what to do with Spider-Man.
Noah Moore
Sins Past (x20)
Cameron Rivera
>The problem with Spider-Man is that editorial has no idea what to do with Spider-Man.
He's a rotten situation because ultimately any change in his life will enrage one section of the fanbase and at least one editor fixated on THEIR ideal for Peter Parker.
Clone Saga was SUPPOSED to let us have our cake and eat it too with Peter passing the torch to what was functionally an alt of himself, but fuckheads got cold feet and left the entire thing a clusterfuck.
For fucks sake you have God Almighty coming down to tell him to his face "you're my favorite" which tells you more than you need to know about editorial and their willingness to break status quo. And when OMD could have simply broken up a marriage and left Peter a single guy again, no instead it literally reverted his entire character to that faggot momma's boy living with a woman who by rights should have died in her sleep a decade before.
Let him grow up and mediocre writers get mad and say "superheroes can't possibly be married that ruins everything," don't let him grow up and readers say "jesus christ why is he still a photographer for a dead medium," let him actually finish his fucking doctoral and people are upset that one of the smartest men in the MCU is actually running a business instead of being a loser for once.
THERE IS NO FUCKING PLEASING PEOPLE WITH THIS GUY.
Jacob Green
Maximum Carnage
Lifetheft
The Clone Saga
The Gathering of the Five
The Final Chapter
Chapter One
Changes
Reign
Trouble (fuck you, it counts)
The Evil That Men Do
House of M
Sins Past
Sins Remembered
One More Day
One Moment in Time
Alpha
Dying Wish
Superior Spider-Man
Lucky to be Alive
Spider-Verse
Worldwide
The Clone Conspiracy
Leo Garcia
is that some cartoon satan? if not, those are some inappropriately used eyebrows
Isaac Gomez
That's because we all love Peter, our version of Peter.
It's a Bond-like situation, every fan agrees there's only one definitive Bond, but will never agree on wich one.
Jaxon Roberts
>its his first Spider-Man story right?
I think he wrote Spider-Man before it, but I forget in what.
Christopher Perez
his Spider-Man/Human Torch mini is one of my favorite series ever
Jordan Stewart
>Let him grow up and mediocre writers get mad and say "superheroes can't possibly be married that ruins everything," don't let him grow up and readers say "jesus christ why is he still a photographer for a dead medium," let him actually finish his fucking doctoral and people are upset that one of the smartest men in the MCU is actually running a business instead of being a loser for once.
Except the problem with the latter is Slott did an extremely poor job executing it. Additionally, it made Peter become super-successful too fast, and so far Slott's done nothing but show him making some pretty bad decisions in addition to contrived shit that looks like it's going to drive him back to the old status quo. On top of that, how will anyone believe any kind of positive status quo will stick for Peter if they were willing to roll back things with OMD and make him look like an incompetent loser in BND?
Jose Johnson
>Maximum Carnage
>Reign
My mugga
Needs some Gauntlet, Big Time and Spider-Island though
Jose Price
>The problem with Spider-Man is that editorial has no idea what to do with Spider-Man.
I think this is the general problem. People have this rose-tinted view that Spider-Man needs to struggle (understandable) but confuse it with making him Charlie Brown (not understandable, because what you end up having is a flanderized, ineffective Spider-Man).
Dylan Ortiz
I was listing bad Spider-Man stories, you dumbass
Kevin Smith
>Lucky to be Alive
Which was this one?