>vader in the originals
>maintains power through fear and his mastery the force, a lumbering husk of a man who mostly works to carry out what the emperor demands, but capable of overwhelming jedi through sheer physical strength
>vader in rogue 1
>essentially jason voorhees with a laser sword, cuts through enemy soldiers like tissue
what's your point? In Rogue One he's depicted as not giving a fuck about officers' lust for power, he wants shit done so he does it himself. There was no force user to fight in Rogue One.
The portrayal of death Vader is the worst thing about this piece of shit fan fiction.
What actually made Vader great was his body-language. The way he moved and walked. He had this certain kind of confidence and dominance we see in real life in some individuals. He doesn't have this in rogue one
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So he slowly stalks after the guy with the plans. Through a hall way and does not just force pull the cunt over to him. Or even just pull the disk out of his hand. What the fuck were they thinking when they filmed that scene. It comes off as Vader is a a moron other than Vader is a bad ass.
Vader in ANH never used the force against a force user... He dueled Obi Wan, and used the force many times to just choke people out without even lifting a finger. He didn't engage low-level baddies, either - he sent in troops for that stuff. He didn't concern himself with trivialities, and used the force effectively and efficiently when required.
I guess you're right. He coud have thrown his saber across the hallway but they wanted a "cool" scene. But the intent of the whole scene is that Vader has had enough of the incompetence of Imperial officers so he steps in.
of the whole sequence*
>mad at the incompetence of his officers
>does something incompetent and loses the plans
what did they mean by this?
Exactly. There is now way he would have failed to retrieve the plans if he actually went to get them himself. Huge disservice to the character, but there's no point in being surprised
>he doesnt engage grunts
he went in the death star trench personally to take out those xwings cos he undeestood the danger.
vader leads by example.
>so he steps in
to do what? show that he's just as incompetent?
If you think that's all Vader was in R1, you completely missed the point.
Just look at him here. Look how much expression is here.
...
Looks like a cheap Halloween costume
So just like how the original looked?
Fuck no
Everything in R1 with Vader was wrong. Even the meeting with Krennic was wrong. Look how Vader is framed as this super-badass that even an Imperial officer is terrified of in R1: youtube.com
Now compare that to how Vader is framed in ANH: youtube.com
Notice how the officers don't freak out when Vader walks in, like business as usual? He's even mocked by one, so it's evident Vader doesn't have a reputation that egender's the fear of fellow imperials. This is because Tarkin was in charge, and Vader was just some weirdo thug with a laser sword that followed Tarkin around.
It wasn't until Tarkin died and Vader took overall command in ESB that He developed a reputation for being cruel and inflexible to fellow imperials: youtube.com
Rogue One's stupidity in a nutshell can be summed up in this; They went through the trouble of changing the Vader suit back to how it was in ANH for continuity's sake, but his entire characterization and how he is perceived by other character' in the movie is essentially one giant continuity error.
R1 literally used the original mask to make a new mold.
maybe Vader acting like a bitch was because he was punished for letting the Death Star plans escape?
hmm, ever thought of that you fuck?
if i made a mold of marlon brando would it be the same
Yes because he sensed there was a strong force user there (so not a grunt) and also because he realized the rebels were on to something. This was not trivial.
>because he was punished for letting the Death Star plans escape?
Where in the screenplay of ANH is this substantiated? Why would losing the death star plans(which Vader didn't do) cause officers that would otherwise fear being summarily executed by Vader suddenly not be afraid of him at all?
An inanimate face mask cannot be compared to a living breathing human
>Vader wastes no time slaughtering a group of Rebels that were in his way of retrieving vital information that could be a major threat to the Empire.
What exactly was out of character?
Try watching the literal first scene of ANH. Try watching the entire OT and see when Vader decides he wants to pull out his lightsaber.
He seems to be fine with how he was portrayed in the Prequels. Anakin was mostly just a boiling pot, but he'd explode when he didnt get what he wanted
The prequels are irrelevant when discussing OT characterization because of how awful every character was written. Accepting Vader's portrayal in the PT as credible is the same as accepting Luke's portrayal in TLJ as credible.
The Rogue One scene could have been great but it was effectively ruined by the fact that he's chasing people carrying a small physical object when he can just use the Force to grab it.
Nobody has that quick alpha head turn or cape swish like Prowse did.
It's almost like they shouldn't have tried to recreate the shitty, cheap looking suit from the first movie.
Rebels trying to escape with plans to your superweapon isn't trivial either.
>Accio Death Star plans.
Why didn't they just blow up the ship? Why did they have to retrieve the plans?
It's almost like the ending of this movie doesn't make any sense or something.
>Blow up the Death Star plans with the Death Star
Why didn't they blow up the ship in ANH?
Presumably because they weren't sure if they had the plans on that particular ship or if they had sent them away or something. In Rogue One though Vader literally sees the ship with the plans on it fly off, so why not shoot it down then and there?
Because they weren't sure if the ship had the plans, they would've have blasted the wrong ship if it didn't had any plans. Not that anybody would've cared, maybe Vader knew that leia was her daughter all along and didn't wanted to kill her.
This is Vader were talking about not Superman, he had to deflect all those blaster shots so if he threw his saber he would have gotten messed up
>The Rogue One scene could have been great but it was effectively ruined by the fact that he's chasing people carrying a small physical object when he can just use the Force to grab it.
exactly, vader could have just thrown his lightsaber and killed them all but he doesn't
Because they wanted prisoners to interrogate.
HIs eyes are RED with anger!
>mfw
They wanted a cool Vader scene, and couldn't care less if it made sense or was in character.
you're an idiot. It's obvious vader was high ranking in episode 4
not to defend r1 but you are a retard
vader is an high ranking member of the empire. Also he is so powerful he can kill people with his mind over skype calls. So why waste his lightsaber against nameless soldier?
>>What actually made Vader great was his body-language
yes. In r1 it's completely missing.
>Nobody has that quick alpha head turn or cape swish like Prowse did.
It's sort of in character for Anakin Skywalker to show off and enjoy battle though.
>Vader in movie made made 20 bucks and a spare camera made 40 years ago
vs
>Vader in a big budget 2016 movie
hmmm
He enjoyed a good workout.
i'll be damned
Leia was on that ship. Destroying it would've galvanized more systems to join the alliance.