Who was in the wrong here?

Who was in the wrong here?

The guy who went to the moon to kill the guy who keeps saving everyone and then cried like a little bitch when his superpowers didn't work.

VS The Elite was not exactly a nuanced movie.

I forgot about this comic and movie.

What did Superman do again? Didn't he fake his death but then laser eye the villains brains so they lost their powers?

>Strong guys should just kill whoever they think is a bad guy
>Why are you killing us because you think we are bad guys?!?!
Hrm...

The artist because this looks like shit

Why didn't Clark just rape him?

No, he pretended to kill them and then suppressed the guy's powers temporarily. He acted the way they acted to make a point.

No, they tried to kill him, he 'snapped' and beat the shit out of them while faking THEIR death and then he used a laser concussion to pretend to take away Manchester's powers. In the comics that was it, in the movie he depowered everyone.

How many times am I gonna have to post this shit

>Goddamn it gordon. You cant just rape your problems away.

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>in the movie he depowered everyone.
lol, adaptations.

THANKS MATE!

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The elite was wrong due to the simple fact that nobody should be functioning as police, judge or executioner at the same time.

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He basically did rape him.

The Elite

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What was Supes response to that anyhow?
Because it's not like that isn't a fact. America kills non-combatants all the time, and no one blinks an eye.

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I always preferred Kingdom Come's moral quandaries to The Elite.

"The world changed... but you wouldn't. So they chose me. They chose the man who would kill over the man who wouldn't... and now they're dead."

Most rational people don't pretend it's heroism then.

1) America isn't "his" government
2) Superman typically stays away from political things and leaves it up to the people of the governments involved to decide for themselves.

Superman was in the right.

You all can pretend that killing is the better option but when the bad guys know it's a all in or nothing game they will bring their A game and do WHATEVER they can to win.

With superman the pecking order some unspoken rules were in place respect was given and some villains leashed the worst so that some control was established, when that order is gone chaos is the only thing left to fill in the power vacuum when heroes and villains die and the body count is uncountable.

I promise if I had some power I sure as fuck would make sure that I had some insurance to make it out alive and if not I will go down taking so many innocents.

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>that 90's tier camera-motorcycle thing Clark is holding
jeez supes just go ahead and use pic related but for reporters.

Clearly you aren't American
Too bad the people stay away from politics as much as Supes does if it doesn't immediately concern them.

One of the characteristics of modern Superman is that he avoids interfering in political or governmental affairs.

Which is strange since he was conceived as someone who could go past political and class barriers in order to right wrongs.

I understand why Superman has since evolved the way he did but I wouldn't mind seeing some approach to him being a little more involved in the world without it becoming Injustice horsehockey.

Just gonna say if Supes killed Darksied nothing bad would come from it. Prove me wrong.

Holy Shit, the bug lady is pretty hot here too.

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I really doubt there are many who hold their governament in high esteem.
Except in bhutan maybe.

New Gods die and come back all the time. killing him probably wouldn't do much except plunge Apokolips into civil war until Uxas gets tired of being dead

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It's more like little dragons than bugs.

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Granny Goodness could take over and bring world peace.

Batman did kill Darkseid, he got better.

>Dredd

Dredd is a satire of that very concept though

If there were a really good, ~48 page Authority story that served as a counterpoint to this, I'd post it along with this.

Does anyone know of such a story? Or anything comparable?

Eh, going down the road into political stories will always end up just being the author's commentary on current events. Kind of like with that "Superman renounces his US citizenship" story a while back.

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Why is he washing his face with honey?

>downloaded into every PC in the world
I'd be pretty assblasted if this happened in real life honestly

Doesn't Darksied's motherbox thing parasitically convert the next fag that picks it up into Darkseid?

> wahhhh The Authority is selling more than my comic

That's the exact story I think of whenever someone says superheroes should take a more active role in the world stage.

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Superman, thing is American soldiers are not heroes and haven't been heroes since the war of the Pacific. America has always been a chouvinist and militaristic state. The elite are not heroic at all, but they take more responsibility than superman, you can't shake the hands of a president if his hands are covered in blood, and that's the rule for all American presidents.


It's funny how dumb murrikans think Americans values exist when those are not more than pretty word the elite use to get support from the poor and convince them to die for their economic interests.

Honestly, I kinda like the interactions between the Elite and Supes more in the movie.

Damn I forgot about the Motherbox

It's like how back in the day people would include their own shitty ascii or html manifestos in their torrents espousing whatever their personal communist or socialist philosophy was, except you don't get thriller.mp3.exe along with it.

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I hated the way the movie ruined the ending. it literally made Manchester 100% right about Superman being a sanctimonious prick who thinks hes better than everyone.

because in the comic he just temporarily disables everyone and temporarily cuts out Black's powers.

in the movie he outright has "the authorities" or whatever remove everyone's powers and he actually permanently removes black's powers.

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Manchester Black is such a blatant strawman

Soo what if they didn't call themselves heroes, but owned up to the fact that they were killers without any romanticization?

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Made for a great story anyway

Then Superman would just stop them normally and throw them in jail.

Their faces work so well as "LISTEN HERE YA LITTLE SHIT".

>xD dumb Americans
>as I read an American comic about an American character on an American-made website probably on an American-designed computer

Nah, he's literally just a 90's punisher type super hero.

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That whole shit was retarded.
Why superman is not doing eye surgery for an good money income?

The one practicing vigilantism outside of the law or region authority

We appreciate your work user, at least this way we can discuss after reading the comic again

Kelly. This entire story is just the equivalent of an "I AM SILLY" response to The Authority.

In the comic, Superman, hands down.

In the movie, Manchester, no doubt. Superman even proves him right at the end when takes away their powers instead of just imprisoning them or whatever. Supes outright decided someone else's life and judged that they were "not worthy of anything" before imprisoning them and making them look like fools because the people were respecting them more than him.

because he doesn't really care about being rich? if he did brain surgery he'd probably do it for free for people who can't afford it themselves.

Superman firmly believes in not making any monetary gain off his powers, because it would give him an unfair advantage over humans who work their whole lives to develop a skill.

Specifically the Authority, the Elite are literally expies of the Authority.

I'm always happy to post this one because it's short and quick, so lots of people always read it.

That's true. The only difference is Dredd dutifully followed the law as opposed to The Elite dishing out punishment at their chosing.

Comic is better than the cartoon. Cartoon ending still makes Superman seem kind of shitty in the end.

OP because that isn't ar argument, purple hair dude is simply questioning the statement but not refuting it; what they both say is true, the american government does it all the time but that doesn't mean what Clark says is false.

I saw a light and...
I forgot the rest.

This the second time you post this in the last 7 days, who keeps making these threads?

>because I am a leader myself
Supes bringing the Banter

I really like a lot of the classic DC "anti-edgy" stories. Stuff like the resolution to Batman: Knightfall, This comic and even the meta commentary that was within Infinite Crisis are a great refreshment from the dark, edgy comics of the 90s

But I am.

Is this the same guy who cut off Lois's legs?

>Black guy has electrical powers
every time

The dark edgy comics of the 90s were themselves a refreshing change from the tired old superhero clichés. Without them to react against there would have been nothing new.

Kinda makes me wonder what's going to be the refreshing change from "diversity" comics, white supremacy comics?