Just watched my first ever episode of Game of Thrones; what am I in for?

Just watched my first ever episode of Game of Thrones; what am I in for?

A slow but steep descent into maddening mediocrity.

A good show that was reduced to shit to appeal to women and soyboys.

Disappointment. It's overhyped far beyond anything that came before it or has come since.

A great first season, a good second season, an okay third season and from there one it's actually crazy how shitty and incoherent it gets.
No, it was changed to appeal to normies. Gurm is a turbo feminist and non-tumblr feminists like the books for its complex female characters.

Steady loss of quality until the fifth season, then thinking that maybe things are getting better during the sixth, and then realizing that there's no hope in the seventh.

>grrm being turbo feminist
>his books are for feminists
Yeah this blatant bullshit but keep trying to shit on grrm or GOT you outraged pussy. You spend way too much time on here if you actually believe any of the bullshit you just spewed.

No it turned to shit because GRRM couldn't plan his way out of his pants to sit on the toilet, let alone writing a massive fantasy series. Everything has gotten out of control and he has no idea how to fix it. The show got shit in having to deal with the fact that the books got shit as well.

Lame retelling of boring British history with shock-factor sex scenes

show got shit in having to deal with the fact that the books got shit as well..
Wrong its almost as if no one here has ever worked on an adapted television show and know what legally is the final word after you sell the rights. "Creative Control of IP" george didnt want emilia clarke either. Lots of bullshit that happened was D and D stopped caring and decided the audience would lap it up anyway. Somehow between the show and the books people forget GRRM is under contract.

>Dorne is Spain
>Highgarden is France
>Riverlands are Germany
>Iron Islands are Scandinavia
>Free cities are Italy
>The North is Russia populated by Scotsman
Westeros looks like Britain and the first war is vaguely similar to the war of the roses but to pretend it's just a ripoff of British history?

>black sails

None of those things help but to insinuate that the massive decline in the quality of the books, and the ever increase of bloat didn't massively impact the quality of the show is hogwash. Do you know why everyone teleports now and Dorne and Highgarden are removed from the show in a couple of scenes? It's because GRRM made it impossible to get the story done in time without doing it that way.

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>I-it is George's fault HBO doesn't make a good show anymore

Its people clutching at straws. There is nothing wrong with anyone enjoying asoiaf/show or the book but I know fags dont want to be anything but contrarian on here. Its pathetic desu

Disappointment.

Stop after season 4

They add dragons to change it up but the entire first part and few seasons is a literal retelling with the names changed and each person given some meme quirk

That fat fuck who wrote it is the Ready Player One guy of fantasy.

Everyone surprised he is a lazy fuck somehow despite the entire thing being lazy hack fanfic alt history tier writing.

It is. DandD aren't fantasy writers and don't know the world like George does. They've done a fine job salvaging George's laziness

>what am I in for?
no discussion of any kind become some ass-blasted mod won't give us back our general

>no Avatar
0/10

Overhyped edgyness and cringe that eventually lead to YASSS QWEEEN, autistic fanbases and fucktons of normies

ah bloo bloo

Citizen bane kek

>but to pretend it's just a ripoff of British history?
nobody has to pretend when George outright says that every big event in his book is taken from some passage of English and British history.

A show enjoyed by fat lesbians and soyboys

Are you a retard? Danys, Sansa and Aryas storylines prove you wrong you soyboy faggot

I too like the great Monghol Hordes of England, the Ziggurat laden cities with slave revolts of Scotland and the army of zombies and necromancers and thousand foot walls of Ireland.

>Gurm is a turbo feminist
George doesn't consider himself a feminist because a woman once told him men aren't allowed to call themselves that.

You defend D and D way too much user, and your pinning Dorne on GRRM.
HAH
Dorne, the plot, the story boards and evolution of story Is 200% dan and dabid's fault. Did you not notice the dip in quality after GRRM left working on the show. Dorne was a way to counter the "not enough people of color argument" fags like john boyega started that surrounds the show's mainstream normie audience whether or not you may believe it.

>first episode
A whole season of everyone always being sad because bad shit happens to them all the time.

I can't help it, she's disgusting but god do I want to motor boat those.

Once again, nobody has to pretend the author is ripping off British history when the author himself says he is ripping off British history.

Read this post And imagine being a fantasy fan. Imagine watching dragons and magik and shit and feeling enjoyment. How fucked a brain has to be to feel happy when you watch sword fights and shit.

Crazy world, takes all kinds tho i guess

But that's true. They ran out of source material, and now have to do write everything from scratch.

GRRM sold the rights to a TV show. He wasn't approached, his agent and him were shopping around for a buyer.

He's had ages to finish his series, and he's still not close to finishing. Guy's a procrastinator. A very rich one.

attractive women over 20 still exist in the US right?

You obviously have never read a book, you faggot soyposter. As i Said, Television series ran and WRITTEN By Dan And Dabid. Clean out your fucking ears

>You defend D and D way too much user
I never defended them once. I outright said they contributed to the decline of the show. Your idea of me defending D and D too much is literally saying that GRRM is also responsible for the shit show. You are the one who defends GRRM too much by saying that he had nothing to do with the decline in quality.

A great representation of the effects of massive fame and a rampant fanbase that will watch no matter the quality on a show.
Basically what happens when showrunners and writers get complacent.

>DandD aren't fantasy writers and don't know the world like George does.
Keep making excuses for D and D.

Just stop at season 4 and imagine what could happen next in 10 different ways. Everything you've imagined is miles better than what you could have thought of. Just save your time and watch anything else.

Because if GRRM says that Mongol like hordes existed in Britain it must be true! Have you ever considered that his intentions compared to reality might not coincide? If it were a different universe when it was me that wrote the exact same set of books and I said that they are entirely based upon Ethiopian history does that make it true? Because if the authors intent is all that matters then nothing means anything inside the book, the author gets to decide against all the evidence of their own work.

that depends

do you like obese women?

showfag detected

wow I'm retarded. What you imagined is miles better than what we get instead

>They ran out of source material
D&D also chose to discard a lot of it in favour of their own original material. Now we see the issue of them hastily trying to add book plots back into the show.
George may have tried to distance himself in recent times, but from past interviews it does seem like he was trying to guide the show and then D&D just started ignoring him.

I just want Bobby posting back

>They ran out of source materia
The is true for a lot but they also blatantly disregard shit from the books. Like GRRM spent a lot of time flushing out Dorne and what Prince Doran was up too and D&D just threw it out the window in favor of DOUBLE DAGGERS and when that went up in flames they trashed the plotline entirely.
Hell they dont even understand their own OC plotline since they made murdering Doran seem like a good thing even though is completely contradicts Ellaria's entire motivations.

Even when they diverged, though, it still had that basic outline from the novels to follow. There's no denying the quality in the show dropped (how they managed to make the already shitty Sand Snakes from the books even MORE shitty is beyond me), but if they had the rest of the books to actually follow, it wouldn't have dropped to the level we see now when they have to make up 100% everything.

GRRM is the biggest issue. The sad thing is, the show will likely be the only conclusion to the story we'll ever get. He's STILL procrastinating on the books, he will likely die off before ever finishing it, and he doesn't want anyone else finishing it if he dies

>D&D also chose to discard a lot of it in favour of their own original material
I wonder if it's because they're actually retarded and think they can write anything worth a shit, or because they think their adapatation will get better ratings.

>Like GRRM spent a lot of time flushing out Dorne and what Prince Doran was up too and D&D just threw it out the window in favor of DOUBLE DAGGERS and when that went up in flames they trashed the plotline entirely.
Yea because GRRM can't control his story and it's blowing up. They only ever hard a certain amount of seasons, hence a certain amount of time to rap everything up. It's impossible to do this without cutting a bunch of shit. GRRM made it impossible for the show any other way.

Yes you did user, dont backpedal on your teleportation and dorne claims. GRRm was not working on the show when it declined hence the decline. Also seeHere's a happy meal for your troubles

>game of thrones is feminist
Oh yeah? Explain THIS!

You're not wrong, the books have gotten out of control with no end in sight and it would not have been easy to introduce the dornish master plan this late in the game, but they could have taken pieces of it to build something coherent, ya know like a good writer.
Instead we got Ellaria Sand avenging house Martell by ending house Martell.

Imagining going to such lengths to figure this out just to be mad about it.

I like the show

>Yes you did user, dont backpedal on your teleportation and dorne claims
I never mentioned Dorne once. You must be talking about someone else. I have never defended D and D.

>GRRm was not working on the show when it declined hence the decline
That doesn't address any of my criticisms. If GRRM is so good why are the books getting worse? Every book gets bigger. Bigger books are harder to televise. Where we are in the 5th book will require a whole book just for Danny to get to Westeros. GRRM has to justify six books of nothing from her in a single book in a way that is satisfying. They made her teleport to Westeros in the show because of the situation that GRRM left them in. GRRM shares some responsibility for the decline of the show.

>but they could have taken pieces of it to build something coherent, ya know like a good writer
I'm not even sure it's possible to make something coherent and satisfying with the shit that GRRM left them. They aren't great writers but GRRM left them a hell of a mess to fix.

Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince is the top of the kino factor in comparison to those films listed.

There is nothing inherently feminist about any of those stories in the book, especially Dany.

The show may have poisoned your memory of the novels.

>they think their adapatation will get better ratings
I think both play a part but I'd lean more towards this one. I like Crows and Dragons (for the most part) but they are more slow burners with more intrigue and character analysis than action. By the time it got to adapting those the GoT marketing machine was already full-on 'Action, dragons and you never knew who's gonna die next!' mode so they opted to move people around the board to bring about big meeting and more battles. It's just a shame they didn't think about what that meant for the actual story.

>If GRRM is so good why are the books getting worse? -never said he was the best writer but he 10x more talented than dan and dave
Every book gets bigger. Bigger books are harder to televise. - debatable
>Where we are in the 5th book will require a whole book just for Danny to get to Westeros.- her army maybe but Herself,no she flies dragon give it a god damn break it wouldnt take very long
GRRM has to justify six books of nothing from her in a single book in a way that is satisfying. -Danny is one of three central character and is not the main character either, it isnt called the adventures of danaerys stormborn
>They made her teleport to Westeros in the show because of the situation that GRRM left them in.-not true
>GRRM shares some responsibility for the decline of the show.-ill agree to this but its what i already said "creative control"

>they opted to move people around the board to bring about big meeting and more battles
I'm pretty sure GRRM made this impossible not to do. In a book you can have characters fuck around on their own, or take a long time to meet someone. In a tv show you can only do so many scenes in an episode and so many episodes per season. You need to get people together otherwise you have to have people drop off. Did you really want Danny to have spent all of the last season on a boat? In fact she wouldn't even be that far. Varys teleported to her and back. If there was no teleporting Danny wouldn't get to Westeros until half way through the last season.

a shit show

1st season is kino in its purest form
2-4 are pretty good
5+ is normie garbage
only brainlets will disagree

Bend the knee, faggot.

>Every book gets bigger. Bigger books are harder to televise. - debatable
It really isn't. Bigger means more shit to cover with the same amount of time. It forces cuts, reductions, mergers. As early as the third season characters are already being merged and events simplified. The first season is extremely close to the first book. It was a good size book for the amount of time they had for the show. The second book had more happening in it but they only had the same amount of time to do it. Half of what happens to Arya in the second book gets cut. The third season is where we see characters being merged and large parts of the being being incredibly simplified with lots of events being left out. It's been downhill from there with every book needing more from the exact same amount of time.

>Danny is one of three central character and is not the main character either, it isnt called the adventures of danaerys stormborn
I really don't understand how this is related to anything I have said. She has to have a pay off because if she doesn't every second we have spent with her has amounted to nothing because she hasn't had anything to do with the main story. Ned can die because his life effected things.

>no she flies dragon give it a god damn break it wouldnt take very long
You mean after she does whatever she does with the Dothraki and finds her dragon. Even if she flies there she still has to do that first, and considering that the distance from where she is to Westeros would still take most of the book. That still doesn't factor in everything else that has to be rapped up that's still floating around. A tv show can't possibly do justice to all of it considering GRRM is failing to do it in the books, a medium which makes it far easier.
>ill agree to this but its what i already said "creative control"
This is just restating something you said earlier that I disputed. Those points still stand especially when you just partially conceded to them.

>S1 was tacky renaissance fair porno with awkward exposition, but captivating plot and characters
>S2-S3 were much the same, except the plot and characters kept getting simpler and less interesting as their numbers swelled
>S4 was filler filled nonsense with some cool moments sprinkled in here and there
>S5-S7 was pure shit

Stop watching after Sean Bean dies.

I thought season 1 was pretty good, season 2 was similar but inferior slightly. Season 3 onward is garbage, it just gets more garbage with every season. Fight me.

I thought the finale was pretty good.