Why is she the movie character Marvel are forcing the most?

Why is she the movie character Marvel are forcing the most?

They don't seem to be pushing Ant-Man, Black Panther or Doctor Strange as hard

They want a Wonder Woman equivalent and they want to shut people up who want a Black Widow movie in the name of feminism

Is that a serious question or are you looking for a specific dialogue?

She's their only female character they've deemed is worth pushing.

Because they want a female icon and Carol Danvers is what they had.

Pretty sad if you think about it.

They also don't have the rights to there real Wonder Woman equal, so they have to try and make a new one

Wonder woman has no equal m8

Who?

This, since everybody hate nucarol, even the classic one gets some hate.

Being Wonder Woman hasn't even done much for Wonder Woman

Who's doing a worse job at pushing their token character that they only need for the movie?

Marvel pushing Captain Marvel?
or DC pushing Cyborg?

Both are characters that they need to push for diversity reasons and no one is biting. Cyborg is selling better than Carol but they're both at cancellation numbers. Both characters are seen as bland and uninteresting and aren't known for having good costumes. Carol only has bad stories to be known for and Cyborg has none at all.

Who's failing more?

Storm or Jean Grey, I'm guessing.

Maybe not but Fox just made a shitload of Mystique movies. Marvel doesn't even have someone like that to make money off.

Or Laura.

Only the women shown are getting pushed.

Feminism ruined Wonder Woman, she started being an honorable warrior to a person that let people hit an enemy who already surrendered just because they didn't liked an answer he gave while being tied with the lasso, literally got punch just for being forced to be honest.

Cyborgs is at least a likeable person in his book. Carol comes off as an ass in the book that should be from her perspective. But to be fair Carol does seem more useful in team books.

>Who's failing more?
I would say Carol is more of a failure because she is clearly way more pushed.

Also, Walker's Cyborg is honestly good. while Carol books are "look this awesome girl, she takes care of cats even though she is the most awesome hero" or "poor awesome girl, her friends are angry with her now that she finally became the most popular hero ever". How can someone like it?

>Feminism ruined Wonder Woman

>no examples of a white guy passing the torch to another white guy

Carol doesn't count.

Because Marvel has crappy female heroes that aren't X-Men, so they had to pick something. I really want Carol to go away, and if Brie Larson has the new haircut in the movie I'm not seeing it

Black Widow dies in Infinity War. Fiege saying they're committed to a black widow move is misdirection OR it won't be Natasha. It's part of Hulks arc on returning to Earth to be a protector there. It's why Ant-man and The wasp comes out the same year, to get some of the feminist flak off of marvel for killing a woman by having a woman be the star in a film later in the summer. Expect a heavy marketing campaign featuring Black Widow leading up to Infinity Wars release. They're trying really hard to maintain she is filming through out the 2-part project. It's leaked through her stunt people, and assistants who are not going to be in atlanta in august or moving past that date, when avengers 4 starts filming.

Because Marvel Studios doesn't own the rights to the X-men.

Yeah. Anyway post legacy most legacy characters are dropped.

No head box for sam nova or robbie reyes. Nothing for spiderman2099 either.

>That image
This is b8, right? Lucario wasn't 'inexplicably popular', they fully expected it to be a big hit and pushed it hard as soon as it was revealed. The Zoroark part is right, but Scrafty part is bullshit. It's popular, sure, but not really anymore than a bunch of other Pokemon introduced in BW.

>Character Becomes inexplicably popular
>Lucario
>given his own movie before released in games
>toys on shelves before demand even exists
>pushed mewtwo out of Brawl to promote 4th gen
>given to you in 4th gen as a mandatory gift in the game

Dude..... no. Lucario is NOT Boba fett. They pushed him hard, he is manufactured popularity to a tee. There is nothing about his popularity that happened organically or because of the fans.

They already pushed Panther and Strange before their movies.

Carol's getting a bigger push altogether because the version that is called "Captain Marvel" and will be wearing the costume from the movie basically has only existed for a couple years.

When casuals come out of a movie, they go "wow that was great, now I want to get into [character]!", so they go to the comic shop and buy a bunch of trades. Panther and Strange have plenty of material to reprint, but nuCarol doesn't, so that's why they've had an ongoing series in perpetuity despite her not selling well, they need as many TPBs with her modern look and name to sell as possible.

He's technically right but he means third/fourth wave feminism, not feminism in general. Original feminism was about equal social standing and emphasis of the things that differentiate women from men, third wave feminism was about GRRL POWER and "everything men can do women can do!", pushing women into macho roles.

Fourth wave is basically feminism gone mainstream and used to sell movies and shit by having "women kicking ass" effortlessly and without flaws because corporations realized insecure women love to spend lots of money.And that's where "Wonder Woman kills people with a sword and is totally like 300 and God of War guys" comes in.

No, he's a casual. That example he gave belongs to a non-canon story that got the writer fired.
>insecure women love to spend lots of money
Tell me more, permavirgin.

>Tell me more, permavirgin.
I'm not talking about women in general, dumbfuck. I'm talking about women (read: teenage girls) who love trash like the Resident Evil and Underworld movies, and 20-something men and women who love to show how feminist they are by spamming social media with gifs of these movies.

Obviously most women don't need to see a lady killing people to feel empowered.

Why marvel? Why couldn't it have been my girl :'(

image related

>trust me, I'm an expert

>I'm talking about women (read: teenage girls) who love trash like the Resident Evil and Underworld movies, and 20-something men and women who love to show how feminist they are by spamming social media with gifs of these movies.
This is so oddly specific. I can't say I have ever saw something like that.

Because Carol is best girl.

>tfw no lady stilt-man

I think you mean Fox made money off Jennifer Lawrence.

No one gives a fuck about Mystique.

Look specifically at the people coming out of the WW fan screenings going "i cried im so glad to be represented on the big screen like this!!!!" who are like 20 years old.

Whereas Wondie writers and artists are praising the actual movie and not just "wow Gal Gadot made me cry because she's a girl!"

Carol's going to be the new leader of the Avengers so nbd.

Cuz she don't have a dick yet.

Then how did she knock up Spider-Woman?

Too sexual.
>she-hulk will never Snu-snu you to death.

She's probably tied up in the Hulk rights, which requires Marvel to pay Universal if they make a solo Hulk movie. That's why there hasn't been a Hulk sequel.

Because shes a woman. How badly they're failing with her is hilarious though

Can't wait for her series to get relaunched.........again.

Is Sam not white?

Marvel is failing harder with Carol. Cyborg hasn't been used to push an event and if we compare the sales of Caols latest issue #4 17,893 to Cyborgs Rebirth #4 28,303 it's clear who is failing harder

he's Mexican

Cyborg probably also moves more merchandise because of TTGo. Does Carol even have toys or anything?

Any Boba Fett comparison should be from gen 1 anyway. Who was the unexpectedly popular one from that gen?

She had one "Caro Corps" line that no one bought.

Wow, I had no idea. He's a whiny cunt and I can't stand reading anything with him in it.

Probably muk. they tried and failed agian with garbodor, but they didnt really push it at all so the parallel doesnt work.

funny enough they hit the nail on the head later with Alolan Muk. what a beast.

Either Charizard or Mewtwo, given both of them were given two Megas in Gen VI as opposed to one each for Venasaur or Blastoise.

That version of Carol is long gone.

His dad is white.

Carol is worst girl.
Karla and Kamala are both better than her.

Wrong. Queen Yaas #slays all opposition.

Phyla is the best half-Kree female Captain Marvel.

I wish you and the other 2 Carolfags could stop.

It simply isn't funny.

>They want a Wonder Woman equivalent
This is hilarious considering 70% of her creation was "we want our own Supergirl":

> blonde, blue-eyed
> Danvers
> female avatar of preexisting alien male character
> flying brick
> endlessly reimagined to no great improvement in sales, history a clusterfuck
> Massachusetts homebase

But NOW they want their own Wonder Woman. They HAVE one, her name's Jennifer Walters.

She's supposed to be Phase 4s Captain America.

ironically She-Hulk is a better Supergirl than Carol

>Lucario is NOT Boba fett. They pushed him hard, he is manufactured popularity to a tee. There is nothing about his popularity that happened organically or because of the fans.

That's exactly what happened with Boba Fett. You had to collect a number of badges from other figures' standee cards and send them to Kenner to get BF, and the supply never met the demand. That was pure Kenner/Lucas at work.

It will be a miracle if they pull that off, and I say that as a carolfag.

Trust in the Briefu, fellow Carolfag.

>which requires Marvel to pay Universal if they make a solo Hulk movie
This is the reality. Marvel sold their children to strangers and will have to ransom them back, period.

Bigger problem is that she's a walking special effect visually.
> 7 foot tall bodybuilder with completely feminine face, large but natural looking breasts, no veins or fatless anatomy
> also, can act

She's going to be 100% CGI but have to be better than Ruffalo Hulk because the alternative is going to be compared to Chyna in green makeup.

I don't think they'll be able to pull it off unless Brie gives one hell of a performance. I hope she is the CM with long hair as well. Dyke Danvers pisses me off.

Because muh strong woman and they have the rights to her. unfortunately she sucks and has a super weak narrative direction. Her brand new solo is already in the cancellation numbers. also just telling people to like her because is a really weak excuse and readers aren't that stupid.

>She-Hulk is a better Supergirl than Carol
She has the same thing going for her that the original Bionic Woman did: an actual job she's competent at and refuses to ditch, a persona independent of a romantic partner, weaknesses, genuinely relatable personal problems, and the ability to outperform the character she's based on (BW ran on another network than the $6M Man, AGAINST that show, and beat it in the ratings).

Carol's an ice queen who occasionally has to remind us she's a woman because she has no inherent female traits. She is literally Jessica's husband.

All of this is subject to whatever interp the screenwriters go with.

>100% cgi
I think it can be done with an actress and just inserting her in the scenes, just like Gandalf on the hobbit.

>inb4 Gandalf crying on a green set.

Civilians aren't hobbits and Jen isn't a giant with a giant's head.

And even if they did that, you still wrestle with the fantasy proportions Jen has and living women do not, even with plastic surgery and ready access to steroids.

>jean twice

That's X-men as fuck

>When casuals come out of a movie [...] they go to the comic shop and buy a bunch of trades.
Marvel fucking wishes. If they buy anything, it's more likely something like a Funko Pop or whatever.

>Her brand new solo is already in the cancellation numbers
Back in the 90s when Marvel had a prospectus for going public one of their bitter complaints against DC was that as a property of Time/Warner, DC had the luxury of ignoring sales (despite this never having been the case).

And now Marvel picks and chooses the titles insulated from cancellation far more than DiDio did at his worst (and Jonah Hex wasn't being kept afloat for political reasons).

If you can make asses and penises look bigger in porn, I'm sure you can make a girl look buffed on a super heroes movie.
Also why not cast the bad girl from deadpool? Forgot her name.

>and the ability to outperform the character she's based on
She-Hulk never did that.

> Funko Pop
Reddit the toy

Get ready for even more Captain Marvel pops and toys.

It's Gyarados. Magikarp/Gyarados is in the regional Pokedex of everywhere except Unova. Charizard was on the boxart and Mewtwo is the bonus boss/ultimate weapon

He's as white as Kyle Rayner.

Charizard, mewtwo, are all too front and center. I kinda wanna say Genger, but they used him a lot too.

I think scizor fits, even though he's gen 2. He's never really been part of the anime in a big way, but he's been a fan favorite of years. He's good in the games and kept on getting better, people love to use scizor. He's got a badass look, he cameos here and there and got a mega-form. Because he's used so sparringly, no one really hates him. That's the problem with boba fett and lucario. Lucario had more screen time in his first movie than boba fett did in ESB and ROTJ.

>If you can make asses and penises look bigger in porn
good luck using tight camera framing and lens distortion for full body shots

> why not cast the bad girl from deadpool?
Because the necessary CGI to make her 10 years younger isn't worth it. And I say this as a huge fan of Gina Carano who wants to see more of her in capeshit.

So whats the gyarados that they fucked up with? Milotic is based and everyone likes it.

The real answer is Seaking and Sharpedo

Cyborg is much, much more popular than Carol in the public thanks to his tv appearances and has been for quite a while so I'd say Carol's failing more.

Maybe that will change with her movie, we'll just have to wait and see.

That's a damn public service really. Could you imagine a Black Widow movie. It would be shit

it didn't work for ant-man.

Might as well be another character at this point.

Chose you character.

Anyway I guess the nova book isn't happening. So no early old school ricard.

Black Panther had THREE self-titled series for a hot minute

Two of which were canceled for selling like shit.

Technically he only had one that he appears in. He wasn't in World of Wakanda and has only appeared in one page of the crew

well yeah the push flopped but he still had considerably more of a push than Carol

>well yeah the push flopped but he still had considerably more of a push than Carol
Lol. Punisher and Doctor Strange also had several books which were self contained

These guys aren't getting pushed in every book like Carol

>every book
she's in her own book and Ultimates since A-Force was cancelled

Hoping on one leg is a feminist statement.

>leaked through her stunt people, and assistants who are not going to be in atlanta in august or moving past that date, when avengers 4 starts filming.
A likely story user, where did you read that? Marvel would be crazy to write off ScarJo when the clarion call for a Black Widow movie has been received loud and clear.

ScarJo is not a box office draw

Most main MCU actors aren't. When was the last time Chris Evans was in something where he wasn't throwing around his death Frisbee that didn't bomb?

>not a box office draw
Gits 169.6 million user

that's worldwide

The Boss Baby made that DOMESTICALLY

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I have ties to a family member who works for ScarJo. The stunt woman is liked by marvel, but she's too short to be Elizabeths or Evagelines, or Brie's stunt double. Her and Scarjo are both 5'3", so she's out of work soon. I highly doubt a BW is happening, especially with ScarJo's divorce and her daughter getting older.