Critics love The Last Jedi but the audience think it's mediocre

>critics love The Last Jedi but the audience think it's mediocre
>critics hate Bright but the audience loves it
Who is right?

In this case, the jews are right.

last jedi is really a mess from a film making perspective, let alone being part of a larger series of films
Bright is a bit "by the numbers" but there is nothing really objectively wrong with it.

Critics really piled it on a little too thick with both these movies. The mindless praise for star wars really pissed off a lot of people and vitriolic attack on bright made zero sense.
Hopefully this awakens the masses to the Critic Question in cinema

the critics are always right, when did Sup Forums start caring about what the common man thinks? The common man doesn't even know what kino means

>have a very thinly veiled allusion in your movie about how jews control the worlds
>get trashed
mh....

The last Jedi was shit and deserves lower than 50%.
Bright was okay, not worth an 87%, but worth more than a 28%.

Then again, like every review, that's just my opinion.

The critics, most of the audience reviews I read about both of these movies are utter horse shit, not because they don't mirror my own opinion, but mostly because the reasons why this movie is good or this movie is bad is bullshit, sometimes there are 2 reviews from the same user where he ignores a heavy critic point from one movie and shit on another for the exact same critic point.
Audiences are retarded and you shouldn't give a shit.

The round ears know. SHUT IT DOWN!

why did critics hate bright so much?
i can understand not liking it, but they absolutly hate it
it can't be because diversity because of will

>Who is right?
Definitely not OP for posting this YET AGAIN

Is it really so fucking hard to figure out? Because the show is actual representation of our society without the SJW agenda behind it (whether that was a concious thing by Landis or not). You have the diversity quotas, you have the orcs who are repsentative of niggers (but unlike most SJW movies, they aren't exactly portrayed as good, most of them are outright violent for no reason, similiarly to real life), you have the humans (whites) - some are scumbags, others are good, and you have the elves who are basically the jews "They hold you up so they can keep us down".

I seriously don't have any idea of whether all of this was a concious choice, I seriously doubt it, but it actually made for a great world setting.

both groups are wrong about both films.

Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

The customer is always right.

So, the audience.

The problem is that "critics" are no longer critics, but brainwash clickbaiters trying to feel important.

The only reason critics gave TLJ positive reviews was because they were terrified of receiving death threats from Star Wars fanboys.

A lot of the animosity Last Jedi gets is less indicative of its quality as it is of the judgemental attitude the core Star Wars fanbase has. There's really no winning with a fandom like that. As soon as you taky any kind of risk they will tear it apart. Last Jedi is overall much closer to the best of the series (that being New Hope) than to the worst (That being Attack of the Clones) but it's not exactly what Star Wars diehards wanted so it gets torn apart savagely.

Bright on the other hand, while I haven't seen it , is the work of Max Landis, whoss movies are mostly pretty bad and David Ayer who was responsible for the trainsreck that was Suicide Squad. Don't think critics are gonna have a lot of goodwill for it. I mean, maybe I'm wrong and it's actually a misunderstood masterpiece but it doesn't exactly look like it.

>A lot of the animosity Last Jedi gets is less indicative of its quality as it is of the judgemental attitude the core Star Wars fanbase has. There's really no winning with a fandom like that. As soon as you taky any kind of risk they will tear it apart. Last Jedi is overall much closer to the best of the series (that being New Hope) than to the worst (That being Attack of the Clones) but it's not exactly what Star Wars diehards wanted so it gets torn apart savagely.
Are you retarded, reddit? What risks has TLJ (the worst SW movie by miles) taken? Destroying Luke's character and then turning him into a hero again (for no reason) is not a risk. Risk would have been if they made Rey join Kylo in the end and turned villain. TLJ is an absolutely terrible movie in general, not just for SW but as a whole. You have to be a fucking numale consuming tons of soy every day to appreciate that kind of shit.

So... is this supposed to be Tolkien's universe? Serious question. Because they mention the Dark Lord and how the orcs sided with the Dark Lord thousands of years ago, and now, some people are trying to bring him back.

His name is never mentioned, of course, but that sounds a hell of a lot like Sauron

TLJ was awful. It was written by someone who never watched Starwars. Did no one else notice that the story picked up immediately from the last? Usually some passage of time go by as the prologue scrolls down explaining what dilemma or progress has been made until now. None of that, it just jumped to the next episode.

>tfw your favorite film has a 36% critics score and a 53% audience score
Fucking plebs.

>So... is this supposed to be Tolkien's universe?
Yes, basically. It's like "what if LOTR progressed well beyond its medieval setting and into the new world". It's pretty original and that's why the movie is so fun (everything else is terrible, but the world setting is so unique that it carries the film easily).
>His name is never mentioned, of course, but that sounds a hell of a lot like Sauron
He is basically Sauron. He's even an elf like Sauron was a Maiar.

*sigh*
Listen you idiots The Last Jedi sucked. But it did not suck because of all this alt-right/neo-nazi garbage. It sucked because:
1. The plot was a modern corporate “set-piece” showcase that made up “cool scenes” and wrote a story around them instead of creating a plot that could generate excitement through it’s narrative.
2. Rey is bad not because she’s a powerful competent women, she’s boring because she is a generic paint by numbers “insert-here” protagonist meant to be as inoffensive as possible so no possible merchandising demographic would not like her.
3. Finn had a good arc in The Force Awakens. Shame then that he apparently forgot it all between movies and repeated it all this movie. That why he was so pointless, not cause he’s black.
4. Canto Bight is a thirty minute waste of time that does not effect the plot. It has no “anti-capitalist message” it has a toothless “hurr greed bad” message.
5. Holdo is a bad character because she is a walking plot device that makes decisions only so others have to take action. She was created backwards. Where they wanted Poe to learn a lesson about “not being a hot-head” but didn’t want him to actually do something wrong because then the audience wouldn’t like him (and buy his merchandise). therefore she makes contradictory and nonsensical moves because she isn’t a character, but a plot-object. None of this has to do with her purple hair (it’s space, some planets have weird hair) or being a woman.
6. Hyperspace ramming as elaborated in detail elsewhere invalidates the entire franchise.
7. Luke had all his character development from a whole trilogy wiped out. All so they could do a cliche “fed-up with life kung-fu master” cliche who then dies from thinking too hard.
cont.

8. The First Order are illogical, apparently they built a fleet and accompanying super weapons as big as the Galactic Empires without having a galaxy or empire to fund and build them. Somehow the entire galaxy is fine with them rolling up and taking charge without so much as a shrug because they blew up one system with a weapon they no longer have. The OT empire was well presented in how they ruled and operated the galaxy even in A New Hope. The First Order has no characterization beyond “remember the Empire?” Nothing the First Order does is even remotely related to the Republican party, their pretty generic space facists. They never rant about immigration or healthcare or really anything political other than the same "We hate Freedom" that the original Empire did, and they have a diverse multi-racial and gender equal approach to evil, more so even than the original. Unless you think being obvious pulp-Nazi stand-ins is an accurate depiction of the GOP they're pretty toothless when it comes to current political commentary.
9. Snoke is stupid, lots of critics claim “we knew nothing about the Emperor” but the viewer had no preconceived knowledge about the Star Wars universe in the original films. It stands to reason that powerful characters existed, unknown to the viewer.
In the new trilogy, the universe is established, The evil was the Empire, Vader and the Emperor. For a character of Snokes immense power to exist is contradictory. It requires an explanation. And for characters such as Luke and Leia to refer to him by name, on multiple occasions, and for others such as Rey to never question this, is disconcerting, unnatural and entirely immersion breaking.
cont.

Say bye bye to your internet freedom.

10. Bad costume design, In the OT and PT everyone has a unique look and silhouette that is both easy to pick out in a crowd and memorable. From the Rebels on the Tantive IV to the Tatooine/Jedi robe look, to the Naboo guard outfits, to the Troopers in the Hoth Trenches. None of the costumes in The Last Jedi do this. I couldn't tell you what most main characters wore much less the extras. Everything is so generic and uninspired you could use it in another movie and no one would notice they were reusing Star Wars costumes.
11. All the ships and vehicles are just the original trilogies with some extra lines painted on. Both the prequels and Rogue One managed to have designs that were simultaneously unique looking but still thematically similar to the original movies. everything save the salt-speeders is just a repainted original with some flaps.
12. Finally It's funny hearing people complain about "fanboys" wanting TLJ to be a retread when TLJ dedicates it's entire runtime to nullifying any changes to the story since ANH. It has been 35 years in-universe and everything is now at exactly the same point it was during ANH, Empire has uncontested rule of the galaxy, Scrappy rebels (They even change their name from Resistance to Rebels in the third act!), Dark Lord ruling the aforementioned Empire, One half-trained Jedi to keep on the Orders legacy (which has been otherwise wiped out), and so-on. The entire original trilogy might as well not have happened now because the universe has been reset to a merchandise friendly timeless limbo.

And now fuck off with your shit movie, ok shill?

>2001: a space odyssey

>TLJ wants to be social commentary
>proceeds with higher than thou capitalism is bad rhetoric
>Bright manages to do this through the use of fantasy races
kek

No, they were horrified of being blacklisted by Disney.

social commentary wasn't the problem in TLJ... it was all the rest of the script

Professional critics are not trustworthy, they're just another aspect of a film's marketing. It's not as if they have a code of conduct they must adhere to or face repercussions, and are therefore easily and frequently bribed

This

You just got told, Mouseshill

>Bright manages to do this through the use of fantasy races
Except Bright was unsubtle to the point of extreme cringe

Anyone half way intelligent can pickup on the white nationalist undertones from Bright so of course the critics will trash the movie that pushes the message of not blaming an entire race for the sins of the past.

orcs = white people?
dear god, Sup Forums was right!

>Who is right?
The only guy I trust as a film critic i.e. Armond White

listen user,
CRITICS get PAID for good reviews, thats nothing new
thats why TLJ 90% and all shitty movies have good number.
And fucking Disney can paycheck a lot of critics...

can't be cause elves are still around and magic is too magical

I don't agree with all his reviews but at least they're honest (i.e. not bought).

Me.