after this, are there any graphic novels that do it for you?
This is the only comic that feels worth reading
>graphic """'"""""""novels"""""""""""
V for Vendetta was better. So was All Star Super Man
I feel really sorry for you if this is the only comic that you can enjoy.
>V for Vendetta was better
It really wasn't.
maus, essex county, from hell, jimmy corrigan, the smartest kid on earth, sandman, a contract with god, asterios polyp, the incal, airtight garage, miracleman, swamp-thing, promethea, astro city, fourth world saga, all-star superman, final crisis
Best comic of all time coming through
>essex county
This doesn't belong on there otherwise serviceable list.
>implying watchmen did it for me in the first place
OP don't use the term graphic novel. It makes you sound desperate for validation. pretentious cunt
its great though
not OP, but it's an accurate way to describe a long-form comic that is sold as one, complete "book"
>muh feels
Shit taste.
Seconded
what would you consider GOAT comics cool guy?
No, it's a stupid term that's trying to validate a medium considered inferior by leeching off another one.
Imagine if books were called "Written movies", or movies "Filmed novels".
fully aware of what it means. Still people misuse it all the time. Just say comic book. Graphic novel sounds so insecure
Everyone else in this thread is a lowly pleb except for me.
brilliant break down of the comic there buddy
>final crisis
This is nowhere near as good as the others on your list. Don't get me wrong, it's better than most event comics, but that's an insanely low bar to cross.
you're right... for the first 200 issues. Becomes cancer after that
Throw some Donald Duck, some Chris Ware, Charles Burns, some entry level Euroshit like Jodo or Giraud's stuff and some entry level mangashit for variety like Eden: It's an endless world, Akira and Punpun and we've got crash course for "how to be a pretentious hipster 101 for your graphic literature."
Maybe if you're a pleb.
Are you implying it isn't feelsfaggotry: the comic?
Not even best Morrison event desu.
Issue 201 would like a word with you
you're a really cool guy.
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It's good but i don't like it. So i don't care.
I really enjoyed the pacing, atmosphere, panel transitions and character interactions. I clearly have shit taste. What comics do you consider great?
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Thanks, once you've done this crash course we'll discuss in lengths about the cultural and symbolic merits of Superheros, rise and fall of EC comics and underground movement and other prolific auteur cartoonists.
>everyone is stupid except for me: the comic
kek good one user
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pretty good but not great
Is he wrong?
>pacing, atmosphere, panel transitions and character interactions
If you want that, go for After Death, it has all that without being cheap or artificial. I realize it's pretty different but I'd say give it a try.
If you want to replace Canada with America and read something equally hopeful and cynical, go for Acme Novelty Library.
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>Watchmen makes you hate capeshit.
>All-Star makes you love capeshit.
Ying and fucking Yang
okay thanks user. I'll check those out
That's a trade paperback, not a graphic novel.
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>Watchmen makes you hate capeshit.
Did it?
Figured that'd be the The Boys.
Also if you want maximum comfy and atmospheric, check out Mushishi, it's a pretty good Mango.
Objective reading order Miracleman -> Watchmen -> Animal Man -> Flex Mentallo - > Supreme - All Star Superman
I've enjoyed the few episodes of the anime I've checked out. The manga's on my to read list. any other mango recs? I've only got into Lone wolf & cub and berserk
This thread is about comics, not mango, you stupid shitter.
don't be retarded. Manga are comics
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do you honestly believe manga and comics are different things and not part of the same medium?
But Mango are Japanese funnybooks.
poor mans fourth world
Also good. Very different take on the "traditional" Marvel's Eternals
>Implying anime and Manga are at all different from cartoons and comics
They're the exact same thing, they're just differentiated due to region of origin
dumbfuck
Blame!, Vinland Saga, Nausicaa, Akira.
Anything Kirby did is God-tier.
Here's a page from 1958's Race for the Moon, with an illustration of the "face on Mars" which was not discovered until NASA's Viking probe photographed it 1976.
what do you think manga are you faggot?
Imagine getting this worked.
>so was All Star Superman
It really wasn't either.
imagine being so stupid that you cant tell that manga are comic books.
Might story-time this bad boy today.
providence is pretty fantastic
Someone actually had the balls to call me autistic on THIS board of all places, over that distinction.
Watchmen is a comic that has been collected. There is no "novel" about it.
why? this is a thread about good comics. I don't think spider-man's ever been in a good comic ever
what about the original stan lee & steve ditko series?
I find spidey fags usually end up going to Blue or Kraven for their "best" and those are just super proficient. Hell, Blue, as much as I love it, isn't necessarily great as much as emotional.
KLH is damn fun to read but I don't know if I'd call it great either.
kraven's last hunt?
This definitely.
Ennis and Parlov's Fury - My War Gone By
The Watchmen of war comics, in that it's the ultimate deconstruction of the genre.
this was a 30 min story, stretched over a couple of months
the dead bloated people raft was the best part
exactly spider-man's a fun character but he's never had any truly great stories like supes, batman, animal man, daredevil and swamp-thing
Ditko's work.
I just read it this week and while it was really good I don't get the hype. It was interesting to see the shared Lovecraftian universe and the whole narrative forcing itself on reality was cool, but all that has been done before. And the entire twelfth issue was pointless, it only served to point out the underlying plot and themes of the previous issues and to tie it together with Moore's previous Lovecraftian work which was trash because of Moore's complete misunderstanding of what makes Lovecraft's work terrifying.
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>stretched over a couple of months
It sort of makes in-universe sense though since Rorschach is the only one who wants to look into things while everyone else is caught up in their mid life crisis. Then Rorschach and Manhattan were impeded to slow things down and distract people even more.
Had Dan and Jon humored him they'd have solved the matter and been back in time for dinner.
Ditko's run is fun, and holds up a lot better than most stuff from they era, but only Spider-fags think that it's some masterpiece of the medium.
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Incorruptible is objectively the better book.
On storytelling level it's very good, on artistic level it has a lot of technical merits, more so than most of modern comics.
And they are both still shit.
That's okay.
Fake News
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Better than Watchmen
>On storytelling level it's very good, on artistic level it has a lot of technical merits
I don't disagree with either of these things, but like I said it's just very good; not on the same level as some of the other comics posted in this thread
True.
Moore is a better writer, Gibbons is a better artist. Watchmen is also better. This is still one of the hallmarks of renaissance era even though it came pretty late.
>I find spidey fags usually end up going to Blue or Kraven for their "best"
Well shit you got me there. To me Spidey is more about being consistently fun to read than anything else really.
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After death, the Snyder one?
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>truly great stories like supes, batman, animal man, daredevil and swamp-thing
Superman
>All-Star Superman
>WHttMoT
>All Seasons
>For the Man who has Everything
Batman
>The Dark Knight Returns
>Killing Joke
>Year One
>Arkham Asylum
>TLH
>a bunch of Legends of the Dark Knight
>runs like O'Neil, Englehart, Grant, Dini, Morrison
Animal Man
>Morrison's run
>Lemire's run
Swamp Thing
>Moore's Saga
Am I missing anything crucial?
Yes.
Birthright, Action run by Morrison and 70s Superman stuff.
I disagree, especially using Watchmen as an example of Moore's writing. Watchmen is good for a lot of reasons, the story is not one.
yes miller's daredevil
I completely missed the word Daredevil when I read the original post. My bad