A superhero in a world of mega geniuses like Reed Richards

>a superhero in a world of mega geniuses like Reed Richards
>dies of fucking cancer
Seriously, not even a space disease, not some adamantium poisoning, cancer. Just regular cancer.

>implying it wasn't one of the best hero deaths of all time

I think that's the point

And why do people think that Cancer is such an easy to solve disease?

>Black Panther has the cure for cancer
>lets people die left and right

>And why do people think that Cancer is such an easy to solve disease?
Because dyson spheres, time machines, and interdimensional portals are all much harder to do. Hell they already have a dozen or so variants of nano machines floating around that could do the job.

>I think that's the point
This. Same idea (more or less) as Pa Kent dying of a heart attack.

And yeah it's basically the hardest "disease" to cure since it's a collection of various ailments.

"He cured cancer" is the laziest "genius" thing writers can come up with, it probably even beats "solved world hunger" and "made peace in the Middle East" as hackyneyed oversimplifications of real world problems. Worst part is that they usually just serve as throw-away accomplishments for those characters to show how good they are at what they do, it usually has nothing to say about the issues themselves.

Just like Reed Richards is a super genius that illness was super cancer.

Is not hard to understand unless you're a fucking retard.

IIRC Starlin was contracted by Shooter specifically to kill off Mar-Vell, and he initially wrote several different treatments involving Marv dying heroically in combat, but none of them felt quite right. His dad had died from a cancer a few months back so he decided to give Marv cancer too as nobody had really done that before.

It's a poignant death, but it just isn't logical in a world like Marvel

they explained it quite well in-story: the Kree were the usual bastards and didn't share their medical knowledge and Mar-Vell's photon bands did slow the progression while also "protecting" the cancer until was too late to cure him

>>Characters are good with tech like robot technology and space travel
>>Expect them to be knowledgeable about human biology

Why could Marvel never keep a successor series going for long at all?

Genis and Phyla only get a couple issues before falling right back into obscurity and then both are killed off.

Why not try to prmote another major Captain Marvel at any point since the first one worked so well?

>>>Expect them to be knowledgeable about human biology
ALIEN biology, actually.

>Genis and Phyla only get a couple issues before falling right back into obscurity and then both are killed off.

Genis got 50 issues or more

He is wearing armbands that calculate faster than light travel, allow him to breathe in space, and transport between dimensions, as well as close black holes. Somehow the bands themselves could not do it.

They turned him into a psychotic villain character that attacked random people for fun then killed him. And that was in the last 20 or so issues of the run.

This. I liked Mar-Vell, but him dying was actually very good.

>Powerful heavy hitting hero
>Major player in multiple cosmic stories
>Dies in a natural, un-preventable way
>Reminds both the readers and heroes that life is fleeting, mortality still exists, and some things just can't be stopped

If I remember correctly, the bands were part of the problem as they had kept the cancer in remission for years only to have it come back stronger later on thanks to the exotic radiation involved. This was at least part of the difficulty Reed, Stark, etc had difficulty curing the cancer.

Mar was swell but his death was a major thing and really well done. He should be left as is.

Return of Genis when????? muahahahahah

Maybe we'll see a nega band wearer as a sidekick in the Captain Marvel movie

It'll be some quippy OC chick.

Can't come back soon enough. He's the best mascot Marvel ever had.

Because creating dyson spheres, time machines, and interdimensional portals are cooler than curing cancer. Hence why all the super scientists are building them.

"solved world hunger"
Nuke the world and kill off everyone. Can't be hungry when everyone is dead.

>"made peace in the Middle East"
Nuke the Middle East and peace is established when everyone is dead and no one is left to wage war.

Genis without Rick won't be as fun though, they'd have to figure out some idiotic way to bring both back.

I dunno, guys, curing cancer sounds HARD. Maybe we should just kill Death itself? That sounds much easier

Don't let Thanos hear you, m8.

You need to scan the body, show knowledgeable doctors the scans, and then send in some nanobots to remove the cancer. Or, heck, just send in the nanobots that can scan DNA and get rid of the cells with the fucked up replication bits. And then the nanobots get free and there's another x-men cross over.

>Why not try to prmote another major Captain Marvel at any point since the first one worked so well?

Only non-Wakandans because Big Pharma will only sell the cure to the ultra rich.

>regular cancer

Regular cancer is the normal operation of your own cells. It's not that it's incurable, it's that the cure for it is killing some or all of you. Depending on the cancer, the cure may be more likely to kill all of you in, say, 6 months than the cancer.

When you denigrate cancer as "just a disease" you're committing a logical fallacy; it's not a disease, it's a cellular disorder that can spread and become systemic.

Even when you're talking about Reed Richards' level of accomplishment, there are and have always been things that are out of his grasp. Biology has always been his weak point; he couldn't even make Ben Grimm normal, or for that matter himself or the rest of his family. They're stuck with their powers, for good or ill.

Why would they be harder to do? Dyson spheres we could make now - they're just space platforms. The hard part isn't the design, it's the engineering, and it's heavy-plant intensive. Nothing to do with cellular biology.

Time machines are impossibly for you to quantify, as are interdimensional portals, but we can at least guess that they're high-end physics, not biology. Who would you want working on a cure for cancer - Stephen Hawking or Harold E. Varmus?

It's perfectly logical. Cancer is you gone wrong. He went wrong and nobody could stop it, because stopping it is hard.

Did you want him to hang on, like Frank Miller? I mean, I hope Miller's enjoying every day he gets now, but you can't tell me he's the same guy he was before the canska. He's frail, he's probably got a decade left at best, and he looks like a guy 20 years his senior already. Is that what you wanted Captain Marvel to be like since 1980? Hanging around like a stale fart nobody knows how to deal with?

Or would you rather it just went away so you could pretend that cancer does that? Because it doesn't.

Who'd you lose, incidentally, and why can't you accept it and move on?

You are right. It is Monica's time to shine!

The actual panel where they say that, it's ambiguous whether he's serious or not, and it's not T'Challa that says it - it's one of his ministers, who's being deliberately held up as an example of a typical Wakandan asshole. After all, never in Black Panther's run has the isolation and insular thinking of Wakanda been upheld as anything other than borderline fascism.

Besides which, we know enough about cancer to know that there's no single cure possible. We're just now learning about how different genes can make different treatments more or less effective in otherwise "identical" cases of the same cancer; in a few years, you may routinely be given a different treatment route to someone who has identical progression of the same type of cancer, is the same age and general health, but has a different blood type. It may be as simple as that for some cancers - you may be able to increase survivability both at treatment and at the major anniversaries (1 year, 5 year, 10 year post-treatment) simply by taking note of things which on the face of it shouldn't really make any difference at all.

Do all instances of Marvel really need to switch places with Rick to work?

>didn't read the comic

Marv's negabands were the problem. They were keeping the cancer at bay by themselves, slowing the spread of the disease quite well, but they also were the things preventing the brains trust from applying the many forms of treatment they were coming up with.

>just regular cancer
I mean, it's Kree cancer that couldn't be treated because of the nega-bands. So it's a little more complicated than "just regular cancer."

YES.
It always gets me that while pushing for diversity Marvel passed over a gay woman and a black woman for the Captain Marvel title in favor of basic bitch Carol.

At least DC addressed this issue.

eh, cancer is man made anyway