Name a worse comic author

Name a worse comic author.

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Bald jewish man.

Waid

Byron Mikael Bendez

>which of these piles of shit stinks the least

Benis

Dan Sl**t

He is not bad, just too stretched out and TWD is only made for money.

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TWD has been unreadable levels of bad for a very long time now. Long before the show even.

Currently reading it, when should I stop?

Since the very first art shift, imo.
Invincible is like 90's Savage Dragon without any of the stuff I liked about Savage Dragon.

It gets bad at the prison though it doesn't become truly horrible until Alexandria, and it actually gets even worse after that.

Hunters arc was the last time it was worth reading

If they're well known enough to recognize their name, they're not the worst.

Remember that webcomics count. Including webcomics that are terrible self insert fanfiction.

It's impossible to name the worst comic writers if you're including webcomics and especially fanfic. I think limiting it to authors who have sold physical copies is reasonable.

Kevin Smith
>I'm going to retcon Black Cat as having been raped in college, because that will totally add depth to her character!

I always wondered how Smith would write Harley, seeing as he named his daughter after the character, in a sense it'd be like writing his own daughter

>everyone naming writers that are over-rated or mediocre at worst

Guy, put away your misplaced hateboners and remember, Mark Millar exists

That Bendis fellow? Also, Slott.

Surprised no one in this thread mentioned Chuck Austen or Gabby Rivera.

James Roberts

Bendis. Undebatable.

>Gabby Rivera
Her America Comic is the cringiest shit I've ever seen in my whole life

Anyone name Rob Liefeld yet?
And depending on your taste, Todd Macfarlane?
Seriously, these guys are shit.

>Currently reading it, when should I stop?
never, the comic never got bad, is actually pretty solid and you can tell that Kirkman is putting a lot of effort into it

he is doing a lot of interesting stuff with Negan these latest issues

Stop shilling, Kirkman. You are bad at it. Get back to writing.

You know it's true

Reading his Miracleman run, and I can say you are wrong.

God that was so bad. He clearly hatesSpidey too since he jobbed to Black Cat, DD and the teleporter villain guy. He was pathetic in that series.

>no Terry Kavanagh
It's okay, I don't blame you. I wish I could forget that too.

Kate Leth.

Chichester.
His DD is one of the few times when reading a comic was emotionally painful for me.

give one legit argument that is not just a bunch of buzzwords as to why the current run is bad

>Negan
>interesting

Negan is the equivalent of putting the retard into the classroom.

>alright I'd like to introduce our new friend negan
>FUCK FUCK CUNT SHIT FUCK HURR FUCK XD FUCK CUNT BITCH FUCK FUCK FUCK SHIT FUCK XD *slams head into wall laughing and drooling*
>oh my isn't Negan so smart class he's such a well thought out and developed character I am such a good writer right Negan?
>FUCK FUCK FUCK HURR HURR FUCK FUCK SHIT XD

I abso-fucking-lutely despise Negan.

Waid, Slott, Spencer, Bendis, Millar, Leth, DeConnick, Simone, Snyder.

She's not a comics author. Don't even consider her.

>Remember that webcomics count.

No they don't, fuck off with that garbage.

what a fucking fist magnet

> Kirkman
He's flawed in his inability to imagine a plot mechanic that's not a character chimping out, but his dialogue and characters are just interesting enough to keep me reading Invincible.

> Bendis, Brian Michael Bendis
This is a lot closer to my definition of a bad writer. No understanding of continuity, promotes pet characters lacking inherent worth, overestimates the value of dialogue in a visual medium.

> Mark Millar
Which one, the one who wrote Red Son, Superior and Starlight, or the one who wrote everything else (with giant plotholes, edgelord mentality, and intensely poorly written characters)?

> Chuck Austen
A promising pornographer with some serious flaws as a storyteller who should never have been given any other genre to write.

> Reginald Hudlin
Living proof that putting a black writer on Black Panther guarantees nothing. Lieberstesh.

> Gabby Rivera
Seriously OP if you think Kirkman's even in her vicinity you have mental problems.

> Kevin Smith, Max Landis
There is no reason to pretend these are different people or that their work would have seen print without a Screenwriters' Guild card. Vocally obsessed with "getting character right" while creating stories that reduce said character to what THEY would do as that character.

> Simone
Stupidly accepted both WW and Batgirl at times when editorial had massively interfered with both characters and she couldn't spin shit into gold.

>Remember that webcomics count
Not until they have editors and can be fired. Webcomics are vanity publishing, comic books aren't (with the possible exception of Marville).

> Bill Jemas
OP, you should read the entire run of Marville before starting a thread about bad writers.

>one legit argument that is not just a bunch of buzzwords as to why the current run is bad
see
The guiding force of the Invincible universe is someone losing their temper or otherwise behaving like a child. It had some shock value in the beginning but it just signals weakness in the writer's imagination now.

>> Mark Millar
>Which one, the one who wrote Red Son, Superior and Starlight, or the one who wrote everything else (with giant plotholes, edgelord mentality, and intensely poorly written characters)?

With him, Waid, Simone and some others, I don't know if they were always terrible and simply struck gold by sheer luck, or if they were good and just dropped the ball hard.

of course the worst writer, the worst artist, the worst poet, the worst athlete and so on is someone no one has heard of.

Bringing these people up adds nothing to the discussion.

Hell, even if you've heard of them, they don't count, or you could say Chris-Chan and call it a day.

> Millar
He had ghostwriters holding his cock at DC and for those two Golden Age tribute books.

> Waid
Burnout caused by bitterness with the publisher whose characters he loves the most deeply who he believes wronged him.

> Simone
What I said above. A competent writer of team books with the proper interplay between characters, but she chokes on solo books with iconic characters esp. if editorial gives her idiot versions of them with no leeway to change that.

The only luck at work here was Millar convincing Waid and Morrison to write for him more than once.

>> Waid
>Burnout caused by bitterness with the publisher whose characters he loves the most deeply who he believes wronged him.

Elaborate please? I mostly put it to him going hard SJW.

At least with Miller, I know he's slowly going insane, and Loeb lost it after his son died. But I don't know what you're saying about Waid.

The title drop.

H-He did some okay issues! Sometimes!

( Inset Name of Female Comic Writer here) is the worst comics writer ever.

I mean, Leth, Cain and Rivera make a strong case for it.

Mark Waid had a dispute with DC that led to his being let go/quitting from all their books during one of their darker periods editorially. For the longest time he said he'd never go back, but now that Marvel's imploding and Dynamite isn't a viable replacement income, he's starting to soften his tone.

Waid's politics have never changed; he grew up in rural segregation era Alabama watching a lot of shitty behavior. I think Champions is a flaming tire dump because Marvel's always, always tried to use real-world issues to differentiate itself from DC and right now most of those hot-button issues are bourgeois first-world "I was misgendered" type """"problems"""".

In the 1980s you could do this kind of thing discreetly and get critical acclaim for it. John Byrne introduced any number of gay characters where that wasn't their defining trait but it affected their lives, and the notion of John handling ANYTHING subtly is itself impressive.

Oh, and I forgot to add: John didn't pick sides, he put queers as villains as well as heroes.

All these FUCKING WHITE MALES

When I say "Waid went hard SJW", I'm talking about exactly that.

A lot of progressive people have gone into this SJW mentality, which as you describe, is focused on dumb, inconsequential bullshit, in detriment of the actual progressive values they used to hold.

I don't mind a writer's political inclination, even if it shows in their work, so long as it's handled well. Which just doesn't happen currently.

So yeah, I still put Waid's fall on the SJW thing. Losing the capacity to deliver a message in a subtle and, most of all, interesting way is an important part of quality writing, and he just doesn't have it anymore.

>A lot of progressive people have gone into this SJW mentality, which as you describe, is focused on dumb, inconsequential bullshit, in detriment of the actual progressive values they used to hold.
A number of them are middle aged and it's like a second adolescence for some when they don't feel like society's moving in the right direction. I happen to be their age AND their political inclination but I also grew up understanding that everyone else is not entitled to my opinion and as a result I don't actively seek validation for it either.

> I still put Waid's fall on the SJW thing
I don't think it was a single thing but it would be ridiculous to rule that out as one factor of several. He needed to retire from writing comic books about 10 years ago. His "-able" Dynamite books are the kind of deconstructions someone disillusioned by the industry writes, even the ones with hopeful endings.

> Losing the capacity to deliver a message in a subtle and, most of all, interesting way is an important part of quality writing
I don't value Frank Miller for his subtlety or having opinions like my own (he doesn't). I value him for telling compelling stories that pull no punches.

Completely in agreement with points 1 and 2, but on 3, if you're not subtle, your story better be compelling, and that's what Miller does (or did) best.

>if you're not subtle, your story better be compelling, and that's what Miller does (or did) best.
It was subtle with his 1980s works, it's not subtle in the least now but he's self-aware about it and plays to it.

>Reginald Hudlin
Such a fucking garbage BP run, especially coming off of Priest's run. Ridiculously hamfisted with its black power message, to the point of giving BP all the black things, just because black. How did he even get the Ebony Blade? Shit makes no fucking sense.

I appreciate that Aaron Magruder called Hudlin out as part of the shitty black illuminati in Boondocks, considering they used to be friends.

>being this autistic
Jesus christ user, look at what you just typed
re-evaluate your life choices pls

Negan is a terrible character

Is he as boy-howdy quippy as JDM portrays him in the show?

Yeah, but instead of generic capeshit quips he's like a kid who just discovered swear words and uses them constantly thinking he's funny. To add insult to injury Kirkman claims he has tourettes and that he's oh so progressive for writing in a character with mental issues into his comic, even though he has no idea what tourettes is. It isn't a faggot chimping out and yelling DICK FUCK POOPY SHIT every single line of dialogue.

So he doesn't introduce every bit of dialogue with fake cornpone WAAL LOOKY WHAT WE GAWT HERE

JLA Pain of Gods and War Machine Max are good books

>"I will sleep with an older married man and when he dies from cancer I will try and get some sympathy for it"

No mention of Hopeless or whoever the shit wrote Hush right after his initial arc?

Lobdell is the single worst writer in the history of professionally published comics.

Sort of.

Instead of WELL LOOKIE WHAT WE GAWT ERE it's WELL SUCK MY COCK AND FUCK MY BALLS AND FUCK FUCK FUCK WHAT'VE WE FUCK COCK GAWT HERE

Imagine the old AVGN if the ols AVGN was retarded.

To me, it is Bendis.
His stories don't read like he is writing towards new or old comic fans. Rather they read like an episode of the Kardashians. It is all about getting news outlets to talk about him.

lol Timfag go fuck yourself
Generation X is better than anything Teen Titans ever made

Didn't know Waid was so disliked. Though of course the only thing I've read from him is Kingdom Come so I'm not one to talk.

Lobdell is far from great, but nowhere near the worst.

Waid was good. Was. Modern Waid is cancer.

We found a pee pee pant guy!

>all these major big two writers that sell tons of comics

uh huh....well then if we're sticking to big two I say Matt Fraction. He's the ONLY big two author I refuse to even give a shot anymore

>WE are the walking dead.
I just liked that part cause it reminded me of this place.

Now that's just unfair to retards. And/Or kids with Tourettes.

Had both, they were the best part of Science and Social studies.

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That's the funny thing. Kirkman mentioned something about him having Tourettes and then proceeded to fellate himself, as Kirkman always does, about how awesome it was to include a character with Tourettes in his comic, when the character makes Tourettes look like literal mentally dysfunctional manchildren.

Like when he revealed Michonne was raped and fellated himself about how he had such a strong and badass feminist hero in his comic, because he thinks being raped gives you superpowers and makes you more progressive.

Sad thing is, watching a person having a Tourettes attack can be pretty nerve wracking. Especially if it's not the "shouting random words" kind but the "starts coughing, twitching and retching like they're being fucking possessed." kind.

They actually said that? I thought it was deliberately ambiguous, and could refer either to the humans who inevitably die or the actual zombies. I hope it wasn't supposed to be some dramatic surprise.