HEY REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME WHEN HANK HIT JAN?

HEY REMEMBER THAT ONE TIME WHEN HANK HIT JAN?

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Is Marvel really bringing this up again? It's been well over 30 years and characters have done much, much worse things.

So you guys are cool with partying and having dinners with a guy who created the ultimate killing machine?

didnt she deserve it though?

Remember, hitting a woman under any circumstances is worse than the slaughter of millions.

I do! It was the worst thing any Avenger has ever done and Pym is shit.

Hitting a woman is a crime worse than any other, a woman is not capable of defending herself and is not responsible for her actions, making hitting a woman reprehensible on all levels.

However, having said that, women are men's equals and betters in all ways, mentally, physically and spiritually.

Pym and Jan are shit anyway.

People only remember this story because they don't have anything else.

The media is reporting on this, what the fuck is going on?

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if the desert is good

Oh fuck off. Not-Stark expictly says hitting Jan is what caused the Avengers to drift apart as a family. Nobody want's to eat family dinner with a wifebeater.

>The Avengers are a family
So would the Hulk/Widow pairing count as kissing cousins or sexual siblings?

And they want to eat it with semi-Hitler guy or creator of Ultron? It's shitty dialogue.

Well, when the wifebeat-ee was a very good friends with everyone at the team, at worst a good acquaintance, yeah I can imagine that.

As if any of you guys would turn down a house party if Chris Brown, Mel Gibson and Sean Penn were all there.

Yes.
Hank was having a mental breakdown. Jan, the only person who realized this, takes advantage of the fact and uses it to get him to marry her instead of getting him help.

It's just a movie thing.

Semi-Hitler guy?

Everyone knew Ultron was a mistake that Pym made when he wasn't in his right state of mind. Not-Stark even says this in OP's image. Read with your eyes.

Pretty sure "Semi-Hitler guy" is HydraCap.

Wait, wasnt that clarified later to be a kree spy posing as hank?

But nobody want's to eat with HydraCap so why did that user mention him?

It was worded like shit

The while debacle was sbout pym losing it and going full retard. Hitting Wasp was just one part of it.

This is where the editor should have stepped in and said "do you really thing the team would care more about domestic violence than the fact he nearly got people killed, flipped out and plotted an attack on his own team?"

That user clearly has reading comprehension problems.

>can't understand that people usually care more about personal tragedies than about those of distant strangers

You might genuinely be autistic.

Hank was in the middle of a mental break down when he hit Jan.

>"wifebeater"
>mentally ill man hit a woman intentionally manipulating him once, in extreme anger and frustration
Wifebeaters live a lifestyle Tony. It's a cyclical pattern of abuse where a control freak hits their submissive partner, buys back their trust with apologies and material gifts, and then emotionally entraps their girl into believing that they're the problem.

No, all those where personal tragedies

Pym nearly got his own team killed then build a killer robot to almost do it again again

The situation was having an unhinged man and a super clingy wife basically taking turns to fuck it up, and you have to see them everyday. Suddenly.you are not so keen on family dinners

Puts the west coast avengers on a different perspective

>we didn't care about you trying to murder us
>what really made us dislike you was when you slapped your abusive wife

>Marvel
>editor

>Thor gets TWO layers
TWO LAYERS!

There was never a point in the Trial of Hank Pym arc where the Avengers had to have a "family dinner" with Hank and Jan after Hank decked her and sicced a Robot on the Avengers.
Because he left the day after said decking and moments after Salvation-1 was destroyed by Janet.

And they had plenty of parties and dinners after it. They had one with Ms. Marvel after all the bullshit they obliviously put her through.

>the Jan slap excuse
>not because he went crazy and became a fucking supervillain
wew lad

>Look, Hank, way we figure it you've got 3 stories. If it's not Jan or Ultron it's some pym particle shit no one cares about, today we're doing both
>Wait, of which?
>Exactly

The whole point is that hank set the beggining of the end for that camaredie. From there on they probabl became more alward and forced, that Tony's point

Why are you autist unaware that the only reason he brought it up was to rile Hank, everyone else was telling AI Tony "Don't do it!" and then Hanktron counterargues by listing the bad shit Tony has done.

I'm pretty sure the avengers have all tired to murder each other at this point...

That doesnt mean it's okay to continually make it seem like Hank is some deranged wife beater

He hit her ONCE while having a mental breakdown, but that always gets glossed over. Every fucking time Hank shows up they do this shit and it's retarded

Sure thing Hank.

Remember that time Reed slapped Susan? Or when he did it to his son? or when Peter hit MJ? Well, you probably don't the last one since it was OMD'd from canon.

Oh fuck off

This. The only reason why this shit gets brought up at all is because of lazy hacks who know nothing else about Hank Pym.

Are you talking about this? Because this was from a What If

Remember when Jan congratulated Carol on her rape baby that impregnated her with himself?

jan deserved to be hit. hank just like cyclops were always right.

Do writers confuse 616 Hank with Ultimate Hank?

user could be referring to the time Sue was brainwashed into becoming a Supervillain. Or that time she and Reed were being mindfucked by Lord Order and Master Chaos.

that's Franklin not Sue

Hank quit the team and quit being a superhero after the incident with Jan and the shit with Egghead. Then he was on the West Coast Avengers who did do that partying shit Tony was there!

Its amazing how one out of context panel damns a character and forever labels them a wife beater. Fuck Marvel

But that didn't happen.
The dinners and parties and bulllshit continued well after the Trial of Hank Pym.

Yeah... but I won't have a dinner party with a woman beater.

As is oft the case, context really doesn't help. Hank was written as an abusive spouse, but then they realized that was kinda fucked, so they retconned it into being one of his psychotic episodes.

The worst thing about it is that the panel itself wasn't meant to portray that, but they didn't bother editing it with plenty of time at their disposal with only one panel to change.
I don't understand why writers need to bring it up so often when the whole episode just shows how slack the Marvel editors were at the time, and still are.
That being said, at least it made sense to have that talk in this context

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Yeah hitting Jan was the worse thing Hank ever did.

Jesus Marvel stop bringing up only well known stories.

t. Ultron

What shit are you talking? Hank was ABUSED in his relationship with Jan constantly.

SHE is why he snapped!

And then Strak gets BTFO.

>Hank is now guts.

...

Yeah Hank really does get shit on for that one thing more than anyone else who may or may not have led to the deaths of hundreds of people, huh?

This.

>Peter slaps MJ
>No one cares

>Why are you autist unaware

We only see what we're given, user. You don't seriously think Sup Forums actually reads comic books, do you?

It was his clone.

The narrative in this case is not on Tony's side either since Hank tells Tony afterwards how he's full of shit for accusing him of breaking the Avengers when Tony himself has done worse shit to cause those ruptures.

Remember that horrible scene in ultimates where jan and hank are in an argument and jan shrinks to get away from him and he sprays her with his cum

No it wasn't

the 9/11 of comics

women NEVER "deserve it"

What's this from?

Even Gail Simone said Jan deserved fridging.

Is hitting your wife once while in the throes of a complete mental breakdown really all it takes to be classified as a "wife beater" for the rest of your life?

I like how that one panel backhand became the single most defining character trait of Hank's forever after.

You got it wrong, he sprayed her with piss

In America? Yes.

Wifebeater implies he did it more than once, and has some sort of control of the circumstances around it.

And no, the Ultimates version doesnt count on this one. Sure, one time is too many, but then again, context. Pym commited worse sins that that one time, yet hitting his wife once, decades ago, is what defines him. Fuck this shit.

It is for liberals in America. They are retarded.

Spoken like someone who dind't even read the comic.

>Hank Pym, arguably one of the most interesting characters Marvel has ever written will forever be known as the shrinking wifebeater because when he was having a complete and utter mental breakdown he slapped his wife without even looking at her, possbily by accident

Crying shame, folks!