This is public domain in 1.5 years

How the fuck will Disney recover?

Just make a fuckton of mickey mouse shirts and sell them to walmart for cheap.

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Trademarks

This almost happened in 1998.

Google the CTEA, or "Mickey Mouse Protection Act"

Mickey Mouse is unironically the driving force behind copyright law in the United States.

It's ludicrously hypocritical of free market proponents to also be the most vocal defenders of intellectual property, a literal fiction created by the government.

Sadly, they're also the ones with all the power.

it makes sense why Disney is like that

>90% of Disney branding and trademarks use Mickey's imagery

>Lose Mickey imagery, now nothing can stop someone from just selling disneyland/mickey merch or making a mickey cartoon, destroying their brand's credibility and image.

Imagine of Bram Stroker build his brand around dracula like Walt did Mickey and then suddenly hotel transylvania and Twilight show up to shit on it when it went public domain.

>inb4 copyright extended to life + 100 years

>implying they haven't built up the most valuable animation catalogue in the world even if you don't count anything with Mickey Mouse

>CTEA
Holy fuck that is some shady shit. So Congress can just infinitely renew all copyrights as long as its for a limited time perid?

That's already a thing on YouTube

>and then 150
>200
>250
Fuck corporations

I just want Superman to be public domain desu

funny how copyright laws were originally made to encourage authors to make more things, but now it's just being used to make sure nobody else can make similar things

>Copyrights expire 50 years after creator's death
>Congress officially declares corporations to be people
>Corporations can be functionally immortal.

The Walt Disney Corporation is considered a person by law. So long as they continue to exist, none of their copyrights can ever expire.

How do people unironically defend this

nobody defends it

there's just not much we can do about it

>>Congress officially declares corporations to be people

That's the Obama legacy that's gonna sting the most in the long run. They did it so that corporations could essentially donate unlimited funds to candidates and buy their way into office. Naturally, they didn't consider the alternative consequences of having corporations considered people.

Will anything good come out of this? It seems like people are just going to use Mickey for lazy barbs at Disney/America/"corporations" or generally just have him beat up or whatever for the edge. I mean, just look up Mickey Mouse on youtube and see what pops up. I dunno, some people are talking as if this is going to create some renaissance of Mickey storytelling, but I really doubt that.

I've seen more than a few conservatives defend it.
You do realize the right supports unlimited political contributions, not the left?

>You do realize the right supports unlimited political contributions, not the left?
pffff

USA was a mistake.

like how the FCC's original purpose was to help oridanary citizens better utilize those newfangled radio and television technologies for themselves, and it's been doing the exact opposite of that since before most of Sup Forums was even born.

>pffff
>the sound Cletus' brain makes when it tries to work

considering what happened4o Walt, I can't even be too mad at his autism to protect them, and the respect his replacements have in wanting to keep it that way
but he's long been dead, and 75 years is long enough to let it go

I just don't understand why if you're still using something how you can suddenly stop owning it.

>You do realize the right supports unlimited political contributions, not the left?

lol

No one tries harder to buy elections than the left (and they still can't win).

>I just don't understand why if you're still using something how you can suddenly stop owning it.

If you're the human being who created it, then that would never happen within your lifetime.

Copyright law was only supposed to last the lifetime of the creator + 50 years.

Corporations who inherited the IPs, however, have lobbied and essentially gotten copyrights extended indefinitely. Nothing will ever fall into the public domain ever again.

And even when something DOES fall into the public domain, it's possible for a corporation to spend enough money to have it removed from the PD and resecure the copyrights (happened to It's a Wonderful Life).

>cherrypicking the most unpopular Republican presidential candidate in decades
wew lad

>implying the neo-cons and neo-libs aren't the same thing
>implying they don't both advocate for corporatism and globalism

Hillary was an especially retarded case. I'm usually left leaning but she was a plastic old hag.

Yeah, same reason why everyone complains when their side gets filibustered, but neither side will ever try to get rid of the filibuster. Because both sides want to keep using it.

>one thousand million
that is not how numbers work.

Disney will just petition Congress for another extension.

On the one hand, Republicans (like the ones dominating Congress right now) love sucking corporate dick. On the other hand, CEO Bob Iger is a prominent Democrat, is being rumored to run against Trump in 2020, and just walked out of his business coalition with Elon Musk over Paris, so the GOP might refuse Disney's request out of spite.

Only one of them wants to keep welfare, though.
(Which is quite literally a life-or-death matter for men, who generally cannot mooch off the opposite sex like women can. The irony of men voting significantly more right-wing is obvious.)

>And even when something DOES fall into the public domain, it's possible for a corporation to spend enough money to have it removed from the PD and resecure the copyrights (happened to It's a Wonderful Life).

Same thing happened to King Kong.

It was successfully argued in court as being public domain. Then it was argued back out of public domain a few years later when Universal decided they wanted to profit off of it.

I've never understood why poor people want to vote right wing either

Both parties are responsible for so many people having to rely on welfare.Destroying the middle class, making the U.S. a service economy, fucked up tax rates, all in favor of multi nationalism forces people to suck the government's tit.

with Trump in the White House and Ike in the cabinet, I think Mickey will be just fine.

When the entire populace relies on the government to survive, they will never oppose the government no matter how shitty their lives get.

Except in every socialist country that has ever existed in the history of modern civilization, that is. But I'm sure the experiment will work if the USA does it, though!

Again, poor women is understandable. Poor men? Not so much.

Because more rural areas voting right wing is a relatively recent thing that started around the 90s. Not to mention the left is historically infamous on shutting down poor people

destroy capitalism

Yep. Just remember it's never real socialism/communism when it fails. Don't look at Venezuela and keep expanding that welfare state

>When the general populace has to fend for themselves, they will never oppose the government no matter how shitty their lives get.
FTFY to reflect the reality of the situation now

>so the GOP might refuse Disney's request out of spite.
That would be bullshit. Personal affairs shouldn't affect businesses or laws.

Except for the fact that these problems show up only when the government gets involved in the market

Um... all of those "good" initial conditions were created by government in the first place. Read some economic history, user.

Yeah, without anyone supplying people with material goods, there won't be need for public relations, advertisement or anything that takes labour power from the original production (the only thing that matters, appereantly)

>"good" initial conditions were created by government

Reminder capitalism is the exploitation of everything base and wrong with human beings. It erodes the soul and narrows the mind of workers till they are eventually used up and discarded.
Not advocating communism and socialism either just saying.

>advertising and PR are the government's fault
Please
Elaborate

I was talking about the points brought up in this which are government created. That image that user posted is retarded "Why do I have so many options to choose from! This is terrible!"

Did I fucking stutter? Yes, the middle class, the manufacturing economy, taxation-service balance, relatively closed borders for nationalism: all of these conditions were created entirely by the governments of the day.

Wrong. The original version of Mickey Mouse from Plane Crazy will enter the public domain. Your OP image Mickey Mouse? That's gonna be owned by the Disney Corporation your entire life.

That's some big meat.

>the middle class, the manufacturing economy,
The rise of industry helped that and the problem of a really rich upper class and incredibly poor people was created by governments. Which also came from taxes
>taxation-service balance,
Another problem they fucked up because government waste taxes on useless services that are sub par compared to what could be created in the private sector
>relatively closed borders for nationalism:
I like how you added "relatively" because you know they're only closed when it's convenient for the state

>Disney ever losing the copyright on mickey mouse
Also
>Implying Disney can't literally scare the shit out of anyone who isn't a media juggernaut themselves with legal fees regardless of who's in the legal right

>The rise of industry helped that and the problem of a really rich upper class and incredibly poor people was created by governments. Which also came from taxes
Governments drive innovation, both economic and social. Corporations play it safe until forced to move forward by law.
>Another problem they fucked up because government waste taxes on useless services that are sub par compared to what could be created in the private sector
Have you tried living in Somalia yet, user?
>I like how you added "relatively" because you know they're only closed when it's convenient for the state
No, "relatively" here means they were open to those who were actually desirable, like many of the immigrants of the day. Free trade, OTOH, was basically a laughable proposition, as it should be.

Is it life of the creator plus 52 years? (Walt died in 1966.)

Of course, they'll probably acknowledge that Ub Iwerks (died 1971) actually created Mickey just so they can push it out to 2023.

They've got just the shills in office to do it, too

Nothing happens
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse#Legal_issues
>Like all major Disney characters, Mickey Mouse is not only copyrighted but also trademarked, which lasts in perpetuity as long as it continues to be used commercially by its owner. So, whether or not a particular Disney cartoon goes into the public domain, the characters themselves may not be used as trademarks without authorization.
Basically Disney has been fighting tooth and nail to hold on to every scrap of a right for cartoons that no one even watches anymore besides film students.

The original evil superman is

>Democrats
>Left

Hahahahahahahah, no. Maybe they have some leftists but Democrates are still right wing if more close to center.

>So, whether or not a particular Disney cartoon goes into the public domain, the characters themselves may not be used as trademarks without authorization.

This.

The Disney cartoon Pete first appeared in ("Alice Solves the Puzzle") has been in the public domain for decades. But Pete is still protected by trademark, which is why he hasn't been appearing in tons of media not produced by Disney.

Do you honestly think anything will change if Mickey Mouse goes public domain?

>it was her turn

I thought it already did
youtube.com/watch?v=RdWV02Szb5k

It is, actually. We just call it a billion so it's easier to think about. We do this for really large numbers where the name of that number isn't in the common lexicon.

>This is public domain in 1.5 years

No it won't. Disney is too powerful. They'll keep finding ways to extend it forever.

Literally why should I care about this?

Thing is that Disney is still actively using the property since its creation. This isn't a fable that's been passed down through generations or some obscure fiction.

If he's so unpopular then why did he win?

Why the fuck would that matter? None of the people involved in creating the character have been alive in over a generation. No one has the right to it anymore.

There are plenty of libertarians who are thoroughly anti-IP.

That's like saying there are plenty of feminists who are thoroughly sex-positive.

>That would be bullshit. Personal affairs shouldn't affect businesses or laws.

They shouldn't, but they do more often than you'd think and I want to admit.

If you think that is shady, look into the RIAA and the works made for hire controversy.

It has gotten to the point where FAMILYFINGERFUN or Toys in Japan or the whole cadre of kiddie channels on YouTube are using the Mickey Mouse IP willy-nilly, so all that I expect to happen is a flood of Mickey Mouse parodies on YouTube of both high and shockingly low production quality, as well as knock-off merchandise.

There is.

Can't wait for those fuckers to lose their copyright

I was hoping Trump would act against them, considering Disney aligned against him initially. But it seems I was naive.

If it works in favor of the general public for once, I don't care and neither should you.

It's hard to find a single one, user. And the same goes for your libertarian claim.

Because the bullshit social Conservative policies the Right promises is more enticing to hicks than the economic ones.

Who cares if Republicans want to keep people poor and stupid when they can get those dirty gays out our bathrooms?

Many poor people support right-wing economics.

>Donald Trump
>limiting the power of businesses
Funniest thing I've read today, good post user.

>If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.

>Canadian Transportation Equipment Association
God damn those canucks. Just nuke them already.