Ms.Marvel isn't selling

Is it true that she isn't selling that well. Why aren't you supporting this adorable brown cutie Sup Forums? How would you change her up to appeal to the masses?

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>Introduce a minority legacy character
>Gets popular because she's actually handled well
>So popular that she was seen as important toward the industry
>Part of her charm is accessibility and how she's a teenage street level superhero who idolizes superheroes
>Marvel decides to get her more involved and have her immediately become an Avenger
>Relaunches happen and she's tied to events more often because of her rise in popularity
>Events lower accessibility
>She becomes a political mouthpiece
>Try to catch the same lightning with other titles
>Sales are now shit

Sorry, I don't support big 2 garbage.

>inb4 shes cute so its okay then

Traditional comic trade sales aren't doing too hot but her books are popular with digital and online sales.

This plus dismantle the direct market or lower prices and make an effort to tell people how the direct market works and that they have to preorder to actually support books.

Trades, too.

Her trade sales are okay. It's her monthly sales that's the problem.

>How would you change her up to appeal to the masses?

Let Frank Miller write her.

because her creator is an anti-white racist and actively supports a woman who wants sharia law in the us.

Monthly sales mean nothing when her trades are pushed through scholastic same as squirrel girl. Kamala makes Marvel more money than any other tier 2.5 character.

needs more fanservice

This bothered me as well, and in some ways was the straw that broke the camel's back, but truthfully I was already pretty much done with Marvel comics by the time she said that.

What if she gets transported to an alien planet filled with hot alien guys that walk around naked?

Get Gurihiru.

Seriously, I was reading the first few issues these past few days and the art is fucking terrible. That fucking hook-nose, wow.

garbage meme character.

Fuck you her nose is endearing.

It turned political and I lost interest

Have an event where she denounces her family's religion and becomes an atheist or agnostic or something.

>he still posts this image in every thread, thinking it means anything to anyone at all.

That's not a bad idea.

Death to Inhumans

>sjw that makes muslims look good and whites terrible comic with a generic "le superhero teenager fangirl" is dying
Good riddance

>he thinks this image doesn't mean anything to anyone

how does a hook nose make the art terrible? if it was a badly drawn nose, i'd get you

Can they be twinks or traps instead? Other wise no deal.

>Why aren't you supporting this adorable brown cutie Sup Forums?

Because she doesnt speak to me, and im not going to fucking pretend so someone else can feel good about themselves and what theyre doing to a pass time they never cared about beyond it being a soap box to preach from.

The editorially-mandated Secret Wars and CWII tie-ins almost back to back destroyed her sales.

You don't dilute the brand. A lesson Marvel has never learned.

>2017
>still paying for comics

lol

Kamala had a good start but Amanat and Marvel's stupidity started killing her sales.

>I assumed that Kamala was just a cute, fun series that slowly got ruined by executive mandates demanding they shill for Hillary
>Surprise, the author was all about this stuff all along
Well now I don't feel bad about passing on this shit.

>He posted it again

For what purpose?

>paying for current year Marvel
>reading the biased political stories of the writers under the veil of a ''story''

Wasn't Ms Marvel a white chick with big fat boobies?

That ms Marvel turned into a bulldyke to reflect her inner bullheadedness.

>digital
Marvel releases digital sales figures?

>hating on based Alphona
No. It is you who are wrong.
>That fucking hook-nose
Is accurate considering she's Pakistani.

Her sales got hurt by having to do tie-in issues to the last two big events.

They're starting to slowly recover though.

>Isn't selling that well
>Always Marvel's top selling graphic novel on Amazon

I liked Ms. Marvel at first, and the sjw stuff is shit kids of that age would get into, but it has to grow beyond that. I don't mean she needs to join all the bullshit teams she has been, but I don't know exactly how to get the magic back. Since the event shit It feels like the arcs are repeating, but that is a problem of comics in general.

Fuck am I tired of Phoenix.


That's not the writer. That's en editor. You could probably still make the argument but at least be accurate.

Full, uncensored hardcore sex. Would be the best-selling single issue in decades.

Would it be inter racial?

she made fun of brown people so the cosmic gods sentenced her to life as a terrorist

That's not true. For the past year on Amazon old man Logan, Deadpool kills the marvel universe and Coates Black Panther are Marvel's highest selling shit

Yes, why hear the truth about anyone ever? Sup Forumsmblr.

I haven't been keeping up very much, but I know that in the beginning, she was a great mix of teenage superhero and authentic Muslim character with authentic Muslim teenage problems. She reminded me a lot of Ultimate Spiderman: teenage outcast dealing with getting her powers plus various teenage drama while still being a cute, funny, charming book.

Lately though, Inhumans have become the new mutants, with all the drama that entails. And as the most popular inhuman, she's thrown into every book they're in, no matter how little it fits her character.

She'd probably be great in a New X-man style book with other inhuman teens, focused on teenage drama instead of torture/genocide/etc... drama.

Yeah. I dropped her comic around secret war and nothing posted on here makes me want to pick it back up.

> supporting blatant sjw Muslim progpaganda

Meh. I kind of agree with her

sounds about right for someone wanting to comment in a ms queen marvel thread

I don't think there's a single non-interracial relationship that hasn't been explicitly shot down in the comic so far. The stereotypical Aryan Football-Cheerleader couple broke up because the Cheerleader turned out to be a lesbian. And Kamala's perfect Pakistani boyfriend turned out to be a supervillain. I guess there's nerd friend and his girlfriend, depending on how you count vaguely tan Italians.

Ehh, as long the brown girl gets dicked by a filthy infidel, my boner will be happy (unless it's a black guy, you can fuck right off with that shit).

Jesus... Fuck Marvel.

>How would you change her up to appeal to the masses?

Stop having events screw with her ongoing.

Literal maniacs in charge of the entertainment industry isn't good. This idiot is on the same tier as Manveer Heir.

Does it do anything new with the genre?
If I'm going to read a super hero story, I want it to talk about ideas which haven't been covered a million times before.
I feel like "[insert racial/religious minority here] gets super powers" is territory which has already been thoroughly explored.

All things Marvel are just a vehicle for identity politics propaganda these days. I still read everything out of masochistic inertia but I haven't given them any money in years.

What do you support? Let's hear it.

WHEN IS BRUNO COMING BACK

WHEN ARE THEY GONNA MAKE UP

Obviously.

With who tho

because: fuck muslims, fuck minorities, fuck islam, and fuck marvel

This

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>Does it do anything new with the genre?
No. Just like Gwenpool, Sup Forums believes the book is good because Kamala is cute and does cute things. That's the entirety of it.

Yeah, between killing most of her actual draw as a character and the political shit, I haven't read MM since the Secret Wars issue.

This

>Marvel decides to get her more involved and have her immediately become an Avenger
This should have been a red flag to you all when she was announced as an Avenger. But none of you listened. Now look where we are.

Yeah. Avengers taint everything they touch
They are truly the most cancerous team, who ironically, have no fanbase

In other words, a beloved character joined a shitty assemble team

>But none of you listened
I doubt many people looked on that event favorably. People have been well aware of what pushes and event participation does for characters like Kamala for years.

Nah. It was nothing new, just at-the-time unique. It was kinda geared for the "young adult" demographic, which is why it did so well. Marvel hasn't had any good YA offerings since Avengers Academy got fucked.

With a good start because of an advertising campaign, she managed to build up a decent fanbase before the endless cross-overs and events and forcing her into everything burned people out.

No they like Gwenpool because it's better than Animal Man :^)

Oh come off it mate. No one thought in any thread I saw that was a good thing though plenty of them were just mad cause Spider-Man had so much problem becoming an Avenger. Becoming an Avenger should have been her middle-tier goal, the sort of thing she achieves finally after years of reaching. Being accepted and standing tall alongside all her heroes.

Instead it just got thrown in early and where the fuck do you go from there?

I'm wondering how many of you wouldn't care if she was a white supremacist.

Would people ask that for Matt Murdock?

She is aware that Sharia law would sling shot her back to 1600s women's rights right? as in her whole life is based on her husband how many kids she has.

>Truth
It's a fucking montage. Nobody knows close to the truth it is.

The more important question is "why is this shit tolerated"?

except Allah. Allah Akbar!
*blows*

Well to be fair, it doesn't matter what she's into if it doesn't affect her performance as a professional.
The reason this strikes a nerve with some people is because Marvel's been focusing so hard on diversifying and has been hiring webcomic writers/tumblr artists. They draw a connection between her and some of the direction Marvel has been taking lately. It indicates she is abusing her position to force her own ideals into the work.

If it was a white supremacist or hardline muslim who was just focused on making good comics, I'd be totally fine with that.

>implying she would be allowed to be one

It'll be interspecies!

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many women are losing their minds in the postmodern world. Ultimately many would love a strong man to take control of them and better their lives however that is flying in the face of the freedoms gained in the last 40 years, so it leads to a haunting issue that no one wants to face: That women would rather be pets that are groomed and taken care of then to be in charge and have to face all their actions and what they amount too

But noone is allowed to be a white supremacist in entertainment, or they'd be pushed out of their careers.

Liberals in the US have learned nothing about being liberal, or leftist.

I own the first 2 hardcovers (4 tpbs), should I get the 3rd one? When does it get bad? I saw the election storytime, and want to avoid stories like that.

Most feminists side with the radical Islamic because it's strong counter culture, it's one of the few things a woman can do that can seem controversial in a modern setting. Dyed hair piercings and chokers are all tame and expected in most western culture, you can no longer do that and say you are "not like the other girls" but taking a controversial belief system that let's you dress funny and is eastern in design? You bet your ass they will be the biggest hypocrites out there if it means they can mount up all their issues on the hinges of "the world doesn't understand me". This is nothing new by the way, in the 70s it was all about being a checkered girl which that has lost it's charm over the years now.

It's so fucking weird to see this as a socialist because the left has always been against religion and its values, especially extremely conservative incarnations of it like Islam. It's like I have nowhere to look anymore, politically speaking.

It's either Sup Forums or this shit. Why don't people use their brains anymore?

Because why use brain, when you have memes, MCU, video games, and small dick?

This, the character needed to grow more organically.

because we no longer have the walls and illusions needed to cope with things.
50 years ago most of your world views was based in your neighborhood. Crime is low in poor states/regions, crime is low in wealthy states/regions, crime is high in states/regions that have both in proximity. It's not poverty that creates crime it's relative poverty and the same applies to the wealth of our mental health and state of mind. People are jumping now to extremes because they can see everything now such clarity that they just going insane and to extremes. In a world of say, 1960 Virginia, that world was all you knew, and for the most part people just followed the culture of that area, thus order and for the most part an understanding of what happens day to day but in 2017 Virginia every person with every ideal can get feed 24/7 what they want the world to be and it makes them unstable when they step out in the world and there is no order to what the norm is anymore. Thus extreme camps are made because they fear a loss of identity in the grey haze of life.

Beautiful

I agree with this but there's something else. My country is very internet illiterate, internet usage here = Facebook. Even other social media is relatively rare, and this is a rather conservative country that doesn't speak English. Yet the political left, even the moderates, have a massive identity crisis like they can't go anywhere specific. You'll never catch someone from the left say that religion doesn't deserve special rights. Especially Islam is such an extremely touchy subject and even though 95% people in my middle class community despises Muslims they're literally untouchable in the media. Only the most Sup Forums parties esplicitly speak against them and all the special perks they're getting. What the fuck.

I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist but I'm more and more inclined to think there's a project aimed a radicalizing people towards the right. When all leftist parties' only philosophy is to never ever face any problem, you look somewhere else.

Yes, the whole point is to create a situation, where people will Beg for dictatorship and totalitarian state

Part of me suspects this too when BOTH Theresa May and Macron agree on a China style Internet.

Well, May already wants to attack the internet, following the terrorist attacks

user that's haram.
Robbie needs to come in and steal Kamala from Sam and Miles while she's still ready to be defiled.

The fact that the so called LIBERAL president if France agreeing with the CONSERVATIVE Theresa May on the internet regilation shows that both liberals and conservatives desire to kill the internet as we know it. None of them are on our side.

The indies you dumb shit.

>Why aren't you supporting this adorable brown cutie Sup Forums?

Because I refuse to pay for Marvel comics