Why does Rorschach have such a fanbase? He's not supposed to be likeable

Why does Rorschach have such a fanbase? He's not supposed to be likeable.

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Because he represents a part of the reader that can't let it go, that's why it's grows so much in autistic types.

Fanbases.

I think there's something genuinely admirable about his unwillingness to compromise his principles, however deranged they are. And I think it's meant to be admirable, too. None of the characters in Watchmen are truly good or truly bad, they're all complex with shades of gray.

>He's not supposed to be likeable.

You mean like everybody on Invader Zim?

is this loss?

>Ted Cruz cites Rorschach as one of his favorite heroes
>Ted Cruz does this
youtube.com/watch?v=LwF-Lib-lxI

It was the coolest fucking thing, before he gave in and endorsed Trump right before the election.

Becouse edge

Everyone in invader zim it's amazingly sympathetic.

Even the robot.

his fanbase is consisted of teenagers who found out about him on the web but didn't actually read Watchmen

See: Antihero
He operates on a personal (flawed) version of morality and the sum of his actions benefit the story.

>Even the robot
On hindsight. Gir is really terrifying.

Also I fucking see what you did there, OP. I see it.

most people can overlook a person torturing individuals and having mommy issues if they're the only person in the book that thinks genocide is wrong

>He's not supposed to be likeable
You mean like the majority of debauched and degenerate pop-icons today?
What the flying fuck do you mean?

>most people can overlook a person torturing individuals and having mommy issues if they're the only person in the book that thinks genocide is wrong
No one's saying it wasn't wrong. We're saying it was the lesser of two evils. The alternative was MORE genocide.

Because I like faceless character

this, characters who the entire story is about them being shitheads have huge fan bases like Walter White, Tony Montana and Patrick Bateman because they are le badass

>Ted Cruz cites Rorschach as one of his favorite heroes
source?

when it comes to satire there will always be people who agree with what you say instead of what you mean

The alternative was POTENTIAL genocide. And what Ozy did was only a temporary solution anyway. Tensions will rise again because nothing was really resolved.

Oh, man. It was so sweet to see El Rato bow down to Big League Trump. Ted was Batman and Trump was Bane. And he broke him.

>tfw you can relate to Rorschach's abusive childhood, stilted taciturn way of talking, pessimistic outlook, discomfort with sexuality, only having one friend who's obviously just putting up with you because he's a bit of a loser, having an alternate persona you consider your real self, constantly getting into fights and, worst of all, being a ginger

>And we remember how Rorschach took some asshole in a prison trying to make a name for himself and melted his face off.

Op you son of a bitch you tought i wouldn't notice

Fuck you

I like Rorschach.

He represents the question whether it is worth saving the world.

Veidt should have just pulled an ark with the best and brightest and asked Dr. Manhattan to take them to an Earth 2.0 while Earth itself burns in thermonuclear fire.

Of course Veidt's ego demands the saving of Earth itself, but still. Rorschach shows the world isn't worth saving, and the nuclear war will happen eventually (but not because of Ror's book. That is just a red herring).

Hes one of the most human and realistic superheroes of all time, he almost feel like a real person unlike most fictional vigilantes

A lie is a lie is a lie.

DAHHNAAALLDDD THE DELLEGAAATES

Hot damn, I can relate to that except being ginger. I got off lucky.

I agree and I think it's a pretty good neckbeard litmus test for somebody if they admire him. Although I'm at a loss over that picture you just posted.

I don't normally do other people's homework, but this literally took 2 seconds to do.

Is there any other easy-to-google thing you need help with today????

>That Polygon headline
Typical

Why Sup Forums become butthurt when you like Rorschach and more generally every kind of rogue or "Edgy" characters?
It's like to pass as "more mature" you're supposed to like neutral, soft, justicier like Superman or some shit like that.
The autists here share some deep hatred of everything who remind them of late 80's and 90's because they associate this with the japanese edginess mongrels of middle 2000's.

You can still like fictional characters you wouldn't want to meet in real life.

Rorschach is an interesting character. Unlike most 'edgy' anti-heroes, he's not just presented as this badass guy who beats up bad people and has a bit of a grey morality, but a deeply disturbed, hypocritical, lonely, sexually stunted and pathetic individual. People around him don't look at him and go "what a fucking badass'',but react to him like you would with a mentally disturbed person. They're uncomfortable.

He isn't even this 'lone wolf' who doesn't give a fuck and wants to do things by himself either. He misses having a partner and values Daniel as his only friend.

One thing I didn't like about his portrayal in the movie is how much 'cooler'r he is compared to the comic. Like when he jumps out of the window, In the comic he jumps out and immediately gets BTFO by the cops while they mock his plateau shoes and hideous smell. In the movie he flies at them and beats a bunch up.

I think that's what one of the biggest problems with the Watchmen movie was. It knew that most of the audience would be walking in looking for just another superhero movie, so it dumbed it down. It completely removed any parts that may be confusing or boring and replaced them with things that they thought would look cool.

>He's not supposed to be likeable.
that doesn't influence whether or not he's a good or interesting character

I never realized until now that Rorschach is what happens when Carnage turns out right.

Fucker

If you think the only problem with Rorschach is the fact that he's "edgy" you really missed the point of the character. Also, why are these retarded posts always made by Mexicans with broken English?

>He's not supposed to be likeable.
In-universe.
To the reader it doesn't matter if he's likable or nice, we don't interact with him, we watch him and he's relatable.

It's the same with characters like Damian and other edgy characters with actual depth.

>Lonely and angry virgin
>Everyone is a degenerate but me!
> All women are succubus!
>Obsessively writing down long rants about this

Really makes you think.

My favorite character was Dr. Manhattan cause I genuinely felt for him and his predicament.

I know it's some busted-ass English, but he likes Rorschach and dislikes people who pass off anything that isn't Superman-tier boy-scouty as edgy bullshit.

What's the difference between liking Rorschach and liking the Punisher

So Rorschach was antifa all along...

He's the main narrator of the story and has a semi-noble death, plus he was a bad ass, he was fucked up and a bad dude but he never gave up on the Watchmen and wanted to do what was right. Way more likeable than that cuck Nightowl or that douche Manhatten.

You could say the message was loss on them.

This. It's not that he's right or good, it's that he sticks to who he is throughout the story and never changes his perceptions to please other people. He did what he genuinely believed to be the right thing, even when everyone else told him he was wrong. Even Ozy did things out of a sense of arrogance and superiority, whereas Rorschach only did what he thought would be best for others.

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Effectively he's the perfect authoritarian. While others such as Manhattan tired of humanity, and were emblematic of egoist-anarchist freedom.
People like him because he's unwavering in his dedication to one singular goal, in the same way that an authoritarian state is united in one aim.
The key difference between him and Ozymandias is the difference between National and International socialism. Ozzy is concerned with the fate of the globe, as opposed to Rorschach who is more nationality based within his concerns.
I think he appeals to Americans and Western audiences far more than he does other cultures.

The Punisher wouldn't exist if he hadn't gotten laid.

Rorschach wouldn't exist if he had gotten laid.

>best for others
Nah he just had an objective morality. He didn't care about others at least not at that point. He simply did what he thought was right regardless if it helped anyone.
Also he's a hypocrite.

He was the only one who stood by his morals in the entire book

like wolverine, batman, lobo, etc. like said

the truth!

the problem with choosing to commit mass murder is that you're choosing to commit mass murder. Ozymandias was not and actor with perfect knowledge of all of the factors and how all events would pan out, it was his overwhelming hubris that allowed him to reach the conclusions he did, and in the likelihood that he got it wrong, all he did was spend a whole lot of time and effort becoming the worst sort of monster.

Alan Moore is a hack and accidentally made his strawman too cool.

Pretty much this. Rorschach didn't let the world corrupt his morals and fought tooth and nail against the degeneration of society.

The irony was that Rorschach was born out of the degeneration of society, and was an active part of the degeneration of society.

Literally using shit water to flush away a sewer spill.

Being a product of degeneracy doesn't mean you can rail against it.

>Being born into something means you can't shittalk it
Are you for real

Maybe, but he was written to be worthy of sympathy. And sympathy is not too far from actual admiration for many people.

Also, nice loss.

It just means your efforts are wasted

>None of the characters in Watchmen are truly good or truly bad,

The Comedian is pretty bad user, just because Moore makes him his mouthpiece doesn't excuse him.

I don't get what the ink blots on OP's pic is suppose to be.

It's Morse code for 69. You know, the funny joke number. Good joke.

Yeah, I'm at a loss for words, too.

>character meant to be unlikable becomes the most liked
Yeah, never heard of that happening before.

He's well written and has a cool mask

So in the end Cruz will come back stronger than before and kick Trump's ass?

He is a manchild that wants superman to hug him when he feels sad. He doesn't understand that others may like something else than a father figure.

>all my fav characters I like because I can relate to them
>they're all awful people
Interesting.

People who describe themselves like this are the ones who look up to Rorschach. They think he's supposed to be a totally cool mysterious badass and not a disgusting autistic weirdo. It's like the kids back in the MySpace days who described themselves in a way they thought made them look like aloof anime heroes but really just made them come across as socially unaware at best and mental patients at worst.

See also the Comedian fighting back against his murderer. His suicide-by-passivity is extremely important to his character which in turn is extremely important to the whole story.

His younger self with implication he grew into a lonely goverment stooge.

He has complexity, though. His supposed sneering nihilism is a lie or he wouldn't have been so horrified at Ozymandias' scheme.

His behavior when he meets Laurie is also *relatively* sympathetic. He really did just want to talk to his daughter but when he's accused of wanting to fuck her he has a very abashed response (compare to his violent temper elsewhere). His "only once" defense of himself when Laurie condemns him for his attempted rape also has this plaintive, pathetic quality.

No, it's a Rorschach test, you see what you want to see, your brain gives it shape.

When I look at it, I see a profound emptiness, like a great sense of loss.

Rorschach is a parody of characters like punisher

I can't fault their casting for Rorschach looks-wise, though. I can't imagine someone who would fit him better.

People who read the book should probably like Daniel better

Nah, Rorschach was still great there.

Of course he is, he's a million times better. No one's saying Rorschach is a bad character, that's not the point of the thread. They're just saying he's a bad person. And not in an epic cool sociopath way, in a disgusting sad little autist way.

And also the minute long slow mo martial arts fight in the prison that has a basis in one single small panel on one page.

And also slo-mo in the fire rescue when in the comic Laurie never left the ship.

I never thought about that. I always thought that he didn't fight back because Ozy took him by surprise.

He uncovered Ozymandias' plan and should have known there'd be retaliation. When he's attacked he's wearing nothing but bathrobe when he could have been hiding out somewhere with all his gear.

He didn't want to live in a world where an Ozymandias could do what he was planning. That he just let events in the form of Ozymandias overtake him instead of making at attempt to change them is another thing to think about.

>A character that is created to mock a certain group of people becomes an icon to them
People are dumbasses, not a surprise

Yeah but Rorschach at least had a friend who previously enjoyed his company.

And Rorschach is an active participant in his life.

>always made by Mexicans with broken English?
>Hi i'm a self-centered fatass burger who believe mexicans are the only non-anglos browsing that chinese cartoon board and make some irrelevant mistake with my saxonic barbarian language.

A lie of a lie

You clearly used English words in your post but all I can read is "jajajaja ese enchilada decapitacion Saint Seiya".

>americans take bacon & fried eggs at breakfast
>americans support warmongers stuff of every president they have just because is their president.
>americans constantly talk forcing their reactions like on some MTV show and often with nigger slangs.
>americans says "freedom fries" instead of "french fries" just because some politicians were butthurt about the no for iraq war.
>americans are the only ones not interested on football and says "soccer" for it and believe only beaners call it like that.
>2/3 of the american population is overweight
>americans think black people are cool just because they don't gives a shit about "moral rules" concerning sex and alcohol when white americans need to wait their 21 years old.
>americans says "coke" for coca cola
>In america fruits and veggies are more expensive than meat and fat products.
>americans need a car to have a normal life.
>americans have just two holiday weeks on one year of working.
>americans prays god before every meals.
>americans eat junkfood every weeks.
>americans have delivery mans for McDonald.
>americans believe every other languages than english is spanish.
>americans are so self-centered that they invent special snowflakes meme accents for cities area like brooklyn accent or some shit.
>americans eat burgers and soda at toilet.
>americans believe they have invented pizzas.
>americans think their forced reality tv acting on their shows is real.
>americans can't drink alcohol and smoke on the outside.
>americans can't says "hell" at TV.
>americans transformed their own flag on a brand symbol.
>americans dads teaches to their childs how to use weapons and considers it's exactly like playing baseball with them.
>americans have the only dog breed with natural mental issues: the pitbull and it's still legal.
really make you think.

If only I could get you to take half the time you spent writing that and get you to spend it learning English instead, Hernandez.

>>americans have just two holiday weeks on one year of working.

Try zero

Zero mandated by federal law, other than national holidays. Most middle-class jobs have at least a week.

>americans dads teaches to their childs how to use weapons and considers it's exactly like playing baseball with them.

Can you please just take a breather and stop raping the English language so fucking hard? She's a slut and sure, you could say she's asking for it, but you're going to break her at this pace.

>mfw when burgers are so fat to write a text about real facts concerning their strange specie because their fatness make them losing too much energy.
you need to chill out with the McDonald, Kevin McSmith Tyrone.

But your grammar is annoying.
also what the fuck it's your problem with not being phonetic? you saxonic piece of shit, go back to northern germany!

>Why does Rorschach have such a fanbase?

Well, one of the themes of the comic was that the characters were caught up in superhero-comic mentality and were never able to grow out of it. They stick to their immature and simplistic look on life desipte the world all around them being much more complex than that. They're caught up in their comic book world.
It's basically a cautionary tale read as an exemplary one.

>he's not supposed to be likeable

That's not the point, my dude.

The whole point of Rorschach is that he is the most 'human'. He is the only 'pure' hero, in that he remains true to his ideals and that his ideals were never corrupted. It just happens that that actually made him the biggest monster.

He is reflective of the reader in a way that most of the other characters aren't because everybody likes to believe that they would never compromise on their morals, when in reality most people would be like Nite Owl or Silk Specter and just be content to stay alive, have sex with somebody who they think understands them, and allow the world to just do as it does at the hands of more driven people.

why in every threads about watchmens involving Rorschach, there's a lot of people repeating:
>you not understand that character
why are enjoying it so much to play the 2deep contrarians? and there is always a different explanation written on an arrogant passive-agressive style.