Who actually ruined Marvel?

disney or perlmutter?

Permitted, disney just wants movie and cartoons to so.ill blame them for EMH being cancelled

Marvel was ruined way before Disney. Marvel was bad since the 90s sans alternative storylines and some side projects, then went full garbage at Civil War.

Perlmutter, he's the one constantly okaying these shitty ideas, hes the one who fucked wiht the xmen, he's the one behind the inhumans push,he's the one who made his employees take toilet paper to work, he's the one who cut the editors, he's the one who justifies his belief of comics being a near dead medium by hiring the people that make them horrible to read. Fuck I mean, I could go on. Things will probably be better when he's dead. Unless Bendis somehow takes the reigns.

Ike. Disney seems like they're completely hands off when it comes to the comics and only really care about the movies. Hell the Disney comics with Mickey mouse and Frozen are actually published by a different company than Marvel, so it's clear that they don't even see it as a money dump for their family IPs.

>Unless Bendis somehow takes the reigns.
That's exactly what will happen.

Marvel didn't even publish the Big Hero 6 adaptations. How fucked is that.

Anyway the answer is clearly Ike.

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How do we kill the kIke

Bury him under an avalanche of potato chips and toilet paper

>Marvel didn't even publish the Big Hero 6 adaptations. How fucked is that.

Wow, really? It shows that Disney only care about the movie rights.

>Disney seems like they're completely hands off when it comes to the comics and only really care about the movies.

This is true. It's not as if Disney are forcing Marvel to shoehorn MCU synergy into the comics, if anything I think they'd prefer it if they focused on telling new stories that are capable of being adapted into $1b grossing films like Age of Ultron, Civil War, Infinity War etc. Nobody's interested in blatant cash grabs like CW2. You can blame Ike the Kike for synergy. You can blame him for constant events and overwhelming tie-ins too.

Ike 'The Kike' Perlmutter.

If it doesn't ruin their image or fuck with cashflow disney is hands off. They own touchstone studios and use it to brand anything they feel is too racy for the disney logo for instance.

No that is Bendis. He was on the Creative Committee that oversaw the MCU before Feige kicked them out. The stuff from his GotG and CW2 were harvested from rough/revised scripts from the Gotg and CW movies. The same for Defenders I guess.

Perlmutter is the same that screwed over X-Men and FF because of Fox and trying to peddle Inhumans.

Perlmutter turned everything into a rights nightmare.

jesus chirst Bendis on creative commity for those movies? Fuck that. The only thing he should be creating is a noose to hang himself with.

At least he didn't transform Wanda into a psycho again.

He's the reason we got mechanical web shooters in the ASM series so I can't hate the guy completely.

Perlmutter, Alonso and Bendis are the three musketeers of shit

I find it hard to believe that a fat bald hack writer who's been saying the same thing most people have since Raimi's spiderman, is the reason we got mechanical webshooters. With all the shit the mans made, that's the thing that you give him a pass for? Are you serious? At least with Slott we get some good arcs and ideas better writers cna run with, Bendis does nothing but debase characters for his own shitty fanfics and leave others to clean up the mess. Yet no one is allowed to touch his miscreations, or write like his events and dynamics don't exist. The man is a walking hypocritical cancer, and you can always tell when he's writing because the dialogue immediately goes to shit, characterization goes out the window, and panel reusage shoots through the roof.

The medium would be stronger as a whole if this man was excised from it, so no one would follow his example.

To be fair, most of the Disney comics based on Donald and others aren't American but Italian.

whoever caused the current lack of competent editors- which I don't think was Disney or Perlmutter.

When in doubt, blame Bob Harras

Perlmutter. Disney doesn't give a shit about the comics at all, and all the shit in the comics can be blamed on his bad decisions and being a cheap jew.

No, it was Perlmutter.

He was the guy who was responsible for trying to bring Marvel back from bankruptcy. He cut the majority of editorial staff and basically removed every employee benefit, to the point where people bring their own pens and shit

Neither of them, really. Disney is mostly hands-off and Perlmutter's issues are mostly restricted to the corporate rather than creator side of things. Him pushing the Inhumans over the X-Men didn't require them to write shitty Inhuman stories and the X-Men had been shitty for years before the Marvel films dropped.

He was the one that cut half the good editors which left us with the shot that gave us shirt Inhuman stories

Good editors don't fix a fundamentally shitty story. Plus it's not like any editor would have the clout to stop Bendis from sucking.

Good editors stop a fundamentally shitty story from being allowed to go through in the first place.
You're right about Bendis though

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Disney simply doesn't care about the comics although.

Disney has generally had a hands off approch with their children companies or whatever you want to call them. They have a few ground rules but that's about it.

It's not like with WB where they stick their dick in everything and at the same time, have them compete with the same company that owns them.