Bleeding Cool Bestseller List – 25th June 2017 – So Close, Batman, So Close

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>Only one store stood between Batman #25 getting a full No 1 sweep of all the surveyed stores this week, Peter Parker denied Bruce Wayne a full house. Still, it dominated every store, with Superman close behind. Do you remember once when Joe Quesada criticised DC Comcis for not knowing what to do with Batman and Superman, “like a porn star who can’t get it up”? Well, DC Comics do seem to be standing erect now, leaving Marvel’s little Petey in third place.
1. Batman #25
2. Superman #25
3. Peter Parker, Spectacular Spider-Man #1
4. All Star Batman #11
5. Darth Vader #2
6. Justice League #23
7. Mighty Thor #20
8. Darth Maul #4
9. Nightwing #23
10. Super Sons #5

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>DC takes the top nine positions in this week’s Top Ten list at our store, with Batman #24 2nd Printing actually placing in the top ten. (One would think that all those copies of the first printing we sold would have satisfied the demand, but apparently not!) Peter Parker #1 grabs tenth place, but Marvel did manage to place five titles in the 11th-20th place positions in our store, which is good sign.
>Lots of interest in classic (pre-Hydra) Captain America–both bargain-priced 80s and 90s issues and key Silver Age appearances.

>Not a bad week. Both the Darths made it in the top ten for Marvel. No Marvel super hero titles made it. All New Guardians of the Galaxy has dropped way badly. And of course Marvel over shipped copies of it. The Secret Empire spin offs are D.O.A. Peter Parker Spectacular Spider-man 1 outsold Amazing Spider-man but not by much for a first issue. Hope the title has some legs.
>I was stunned. Watchmen material all the sudden became in demand. Before Watchmen back issues seen the most action this week.

>Batman #25 was our top seller, overtaking All-Star Batman #11 by a tiny margin. Jonathan Hickman and Tomm Coker’s high-concept BlackMondayMurders and Andrew MacLean’s perpetually satisfying Head Lopper, weren’t far behind, though. Chip Zdarsky’s new-reader friendly Spider-Man showed up around the middle of our list, not making too big of a splash. Darth Vader #2 finished off the list ofbestsellersthis week, losing a bit of steam from its strong start but still doing pretty well for us.

>Best showing from Marvel in a while, but DC still took the top 2 spots with Batman & Superman. We’re starting to see some attrition on Dr. Strange with Jason Aaron’s departure… not sure if forcing Secret Empire tie-ins right out of the gate instead of letting Dennis Hopeless & Niko Henrichon hit the ground running with their own ideas was the best move. Peter Parker #1 was the best Spidey comic I’ve read in a few years, and and people were ready for it.

>Looks like another DC heavy week. Wonder Woman Tasmanian Devil #1 was a huge hit at our newly opened Greensboro store thanks to an in-store signing with inker John Floyd who lives nearby.
>Just outside the top 10 is the best titled book of the week: Shirtless Bear Fighter #1.
>Darth Vader 2 sold just was well as issue #1 and we can tell that fans love it.
Sales overall have been strong this week and I think the DC/looney Tunes crossovers will be the surprise hit of the summer.
>Batman #25 was our top seller but there were some grumbles about the Catwoman cliffhanger
>We vendored at Heroes con last weekend so most back issues were in disarray for this week. >We did BUY Fantastic Four #1, Avengers #4, Avengers #87 CGC 9.4 along with get this- a single page from Superman #1 1940.
>Our in-store back issue sales seemed to focus on DC books from the past 5 years. We did have a customer asking for Leonard Nemoy’s Primortals but I consider this to be a one-time thing.

>Darth Vader #2
>#2
Did they seriously relaunch fucking Darth Vader? What possible stories can you tell at this point that would require a relaunch to continue?

>Batman steamrolled every other book again this week at FFF by selling almost twice as many copies as our second best selling book, Justice League. The only Marvel book in our Top Ten was Star Wars Darth Vader at #4 which is no surprise as Star Wars usually sells itself. God Country #6, the last issue of an amazing series, crept in at #10. The series saw a little bit of drop off with this last issue, but Donny Cates definitely still has his fans with his other books that he cranks out.
>Only three other Marvel books managed to crack the Top Twenty. One more Star Wars book and two X-Men adjacent titles. Weapons of Mutant Destruction was #13 which owes more to its ties to Weapon X than Totally Awesome Hulk (the latter of which is only subbed by a few customers who get every Marvel book). Darth Maul was #16 and X-Men Gold barely made the cut at #20. Dark Days: The Forge in it’s second week actually outsold X-Men Gold. Secret Empire on the other hand is rapidly losing readers’ interests and it seems like nobody is going out of their way to get the tie-ins.
>On the indie side of things, Crosswind and Plastic sold well, but not stellar. Gail Simone has her fans and sales wise Crosswind was split down the middle with half sold off the shelf and half sold from subs which is a good sign that I hope the series can maintain. Plastic has a small following and is both a customer and employee favorite. We try to push indie stuff as much as we can and we have a handful of customers who are always into reading something new and different, but DC is definitely dominating our sales with no sign of slowing down. I’d be upset if they weren’t putting out quality work.
>We have a signing with Kyle Starks this weekend so we’ve been selling a good chunk of his Rick and Morty issues as well as a handful of Rock Candy Mountain.

>We also sold a good bit of Tony Daniels’s Deathstroke and Detective Comics in preparation for the Orlando Toy and Comic Con also this weekend. Wonder Woman has slowed down a bit, but a few people still come in looking for a graphic novel or two that are like the movie. On top of that, we sold the usual Batman, Spider-Man, and X-Men from the 90s.

>Batman, of course, took the top spot, followed by Darth Maul. Spider-Man, who would have been a shoe-in for the top spot a few years ago is just another sign of the downward slide Marvel is on, only reaching the 6th spot on our top 10. The only other Marvel title of note (outside of the Star Wars titles) is Daredevil, which continues to see new readers every month.
Indies, God Country, The Chair, Destroyer, and Bill & Ted all claimed a spot this week, with Power Rangers just missing out and coming in at #11. DC #25 issues with all of their Rebirth titles held the next couple of spots just out of the top 10. Word of mouth is really spreading about the DC Metal series and tie-ins, and customers are adding these titles faster than any other to their sub lists.

>Shirtless Bear Fighter shocked us with almost everybody had it in there stacks. Though, we thought we had maxed out on Batman, we still need more. The industry is really becoming stronger each week on selling out of our product. Across the board Publishers are really marketing their product well.

Glad to see Super Sons is still doing well.

>like a porn star who can’t get it up”?
Did Quesada really say that? What a douchebag.

I hope Hunpries gets a Bugs Bunny series.

whatever comics are dying anyway

talk about something that matters like Spiderman making a billion while WW can't even get $700 million

I've seen praise for Quesada here in recent weeks, but that's only because how he ran Marvel was good in comparison to what we have now. His run as EiC was far from good though.

Not surprised at all. I jumped into Rebirth Batman with this issue and I'm sure a good bit of other people picked it up here, or got back into it after dropping it with King's early arcs.

They didn't miss much. And that Kite-Man garbage could sink the sales if the next few issues aren't any better than the last one. Pre-Button it went below 100k.

And I say that as someone who has at least 2 of every copy thanks to those Sale covers and defended king's bat for quite a while. I just want a normal Batman story. This has promise but it already started off with a good helping of horse shit.

though not like it matters in regards to these threads when marvel is literally releasing refuse into the market place.

It's amazing how bad Axel is. I didn't think I'd miss Quesada or Wacker so much.

Can Zdarsky overthrow Slott?

Quesada was a douchebag in interviews, but he really did save Marvel. You had a lot of classic runs on his watch. Priest's BP, Bendis' Daredevil, the Ultimate line, X-Statix, JMS's ASM, Ennis' Punisher, Brubaker's Captain America, Runaways. New Avengers was a mixed bag, but it turned the Avengers franchise around in popularity. Of course, there was the complete destruction of the X-Men line and OMD, but overall pretty successful.

Axel's tenure has been an absolute shitshow.

Spectacular will be high on Diamond's chart because of the deep discount to retailers (and the fact that comics that get deep discounted happen to get included Funko's Collector Corps box) but could fall off in sales.

Damn...

I don´t understand, this bleeding cool list from week to week show DC rocking the top10, above secret empire and every marvel comic.
Last week there was a list of month sales and you had secret empire 1, 2, 3, 4 and some other marvel comics in the top 10 and only 2 DC comics.

Which is the real deal?

The new book is just after RotS, the last was post-ANH.
They shouldve renamed it though

Diamond sales are what the publishers sell to stores.
Bleeding Cool's list is a survey of what a dozen or so stores sold to readers.

so the distributor sell more marvel comics to the stores but the consumers buy more dc comics?
People buys more DC but Marvel sells more? This seems not very profitable to the stores.

The sales chart of Top 100 is basically what retailers order from Diamond. Retailers sometime have to guess how much they can sell as best as possible and order accordingly.

And then sometimes on those charts, retailers also get free books that get counted as units sold.

>talk about something that matters like Spiderman making a billion while WW can't even get $700 million

Can't Spiderman break the billion barrier without RDJ?

Don't miss Wacker, he killed Cosmic.

>People buys more DC but Marvel sells more? This seems not very profitable to the stores.

It depends. Some stores still sell Marvels pretty well. Others have been finding their Marvel sales have been declining. Sometimes some books have incentives added to them, like variants you can order if you buy 1000 or 2000 copies of the regular cover. Or the overships.

Yes he did although the article where he says it can only be accessed through wayback machine since it's no longer there.

>People buys more DC but Marvel sells more?
To some extent, yes. Marvel's sales have a lot of convoluted systems and restrictions depending on what the retailer wants. Buy 150% of what you bought of the previous issue in order to get to buy a certain variant. Buy 200% to get X discount, Marvel overships comics (ex: they add +10% of your order fo a book free) of a certain comic but it still counts as a sale, etc.

>Well, DC Comics do seem to be standing erect now, leaving Marvel’s little Petey in third place.

is aquaman good? I've never read aquaman because of the meme, is it worth jumping on at 25 or have i missed too much?

It's fine. All that's happened is Black Manta' s back and wants to hurt Auther like usual. And Mera and Auther are going to get married

All you really need to know jumping into issue 25 is that he's no longer king and presumed dead.

Of course they would, I'm surprised Marvel doesn't relaunch after every 6 issue arc at this point

BC's is based on ~10 retailers that Rich Johnston is friends with the owners for, and it's week to week. Diamond is every retailer and it's month-to-month.

Christ
Is this even considered ethical business practice at this point? Can someone like, I dunno, sue?

Isn't that exactly what they do?

Oh hey toying you simply don't understand business

>Well, DC Comics do seem to be standing erect now, leaving Marvel’s little Petey in third
What should we call this?
DC'ED?

Diamond list of month sales = what retailers buy to sell at their store
Bleeding Cool list = what customers buy at a number of stores.

So for example on the May 2017 chart, Venom #150 was second place.in units, first in dollars (mainly because its cover price was $5.99). But a retailer in Iowa said it didn't sell that well for him:

bleedingcool.com/2017/06/26/comic-store-future-venom-150-sell/

What a retailer orders from the chart is not always what ends up selling to customers.

Sejic on Aquaman truly is a blessing.

>DC Comics do seem to be standing erect now, leaving Marvel’s little Petey in third place
Kek

>Marveldrones still trying to peddle this meme
>I-it's only a handful of clearly DC biased stores
Except if you go back 2 years or so these exact same stores were saying the exact opposite to what they're saying now. DCYou was in the toilet and Marvel was killing it.

Plus the weekly Comixology best sellers top 10 is almost always in line with what these stores report. Last week they were 9/10 the same and this week they're 8/10 the same.