Any decent online salt for Spencer making Mockingbird a card carrying Nazi?

Any decent online salt for Spencer making Mockingbird a card carrying Nazi?

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Not until Chelsea Cain figures out how to spin it as an attack against her.

I've been so disappointed by Spencer's usage of Mockingbird

He wrote Bobbi so well during his short Secret Avengers run.

I miss the camo-tech

On the other hand that run did include a story where Bobbi was brainwashed and may or may not have been a secrely AIM double agent all along. So yeah the betrayal wasn't too surprising.

Is the only decent Mockingbird the Agents of SHIELD version?

She is so damn sexy. And we didn't get enough spy suit scenes, but she made up for it with tight t-shirts. I know her spin-off never launched, but damn do I miss her and Nick Blood.

There hasn't been any manfactuered salt at all. Just a bunch of edgy kids hoping their would be

I love Mockingbird but this whole event is so unutterably dumb I just can't bring myself to get upset or even care. Secret Empire is Marvel's Injustice 2. Ridiculous storyline, atrocious art....it's all there.

You like a cheating murderous piece of shit?

I don't think enough people care to make salt

Maybe we should wait and see why she's a traitor, hmmm?

What's even all that about? I've been out of loop, why is everyone Hydra now?

Captain America got cosmic cubed into a secret Hydra agent and is taking over the world for them.

While everyone else has their own reason for serving him and not all of them are of free will

But what about others, like Mockingbird? Have they been brainwashed as well?

Caps Hydra is slightly less horrible than Red Skull's, so some people are okay with it.

Also the usual things, blackmail, money, power, i-like-being-evil etc

>the two dominating powers that are scared shitless of Fascism and Nazism are the ones who relentlessly portray it as evil despite the complete opposite being recorded of it.

Wow. Your meme image as a sauce totally shatters my perception of reality

Wow, it's not like one fucking image will convince a retard, so maybe that retard should then look into it out of curiosity themselves to see if it is right or not. I know you morons are used to leftist shit being shoved in your face in comics without a shred of evidence to back it up but come the fuck on.

All right, thanks

>it's not like one fucking image will convince a retard
What's your excuse then?

I didn't think people would care about the bitching on mockinbird's ongoing, but the author managed to leverage that into an eisner nomination.

Still, no reason to invent reasons for people to bitch. Either they lose their shit, or they don't.

>What's your excuse then?
Fucking what? My excuse was reading a shit ton of books by credible sources that backed it up. It's not like finding this shit is hard.

Cool. Post some of those books.

And yet all those books amounted to a meme image and opinion shared by a bunch of underaged boys on the politically incorrect board on an internet forum

He's raising the bar.

So is this or isn't this propaganda?

Hitler's war
Goebbels mastermind of the third Reich
After the Reich the brutal history of the allied occupation
Mein Kampf
The myth of German villainy
Churchill's War
Hitler's revolution
The enigma of Hitler
Hellstorm

None of it is pol quit with that shitty meme boogeyman. Just face reality already. I know it hurts at first but it feels better after you know how much of a cuck you've been.
Are there any good conservative comics out there by the way?

Exhibit A: using the cuck meme
This is why you are discussing this on Sup Forums and will always discuss it here, you'd be laughed out of any debate

Are conservatives normally fascists and pro nazi? I thought that was just a meme anons laugh at whenever someone suggests that on the left.

Kek

>you'd be laughed out of any debate
Nice little fantasy you have there but no I haven't. I have the ''privilege'' so o speak of not being white.

Yeah you haven't. You'd have to actually go to one for it to happen

>Are conservatives normally fascists and pro nazi?
Nah but anyone pro Nazi is conservative because lefties tend to lean communist, which is the natural enemy of National Socialism. Nothing wrong with being a lefty if you're smart. Many leftists I know say Hitler would have been the greatest leader in history if it weren't for the Holocaust, even professors.

>You'd have to actually go to one for it to happen
Keep projecting while you cling to your comics. I like comics but I like to read actual books every once in a while.And if by debate you mean a bunch f cry babies calling me a monster for not thinking gas chambers that were never proven are not real. then there is nothing you can do as they wont listen let alone debate. They never debate, just call you an antisemitic ass and think they won the argument.

Good on you for being a fellow book reader. You still gotta work on your debate skills if you ever want to be taken a little serious

It is admittedly something I am working on. I need to be more articulate but it doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about. I could be wrong, who knows but until something other than sob story eyewitnesses and forced confessions are used as proof, I won't budge.
But I ask again, are there any cool comics that have a more conservative writing style?

I'd be the first to argue against mass immigration or the idea that being right winged means you're a nazi, but it's a touchy subject and you have to be subtle and clever about it. If you push too hard people will think you an extremist, it's a matter of working your way to the subject slowly through a strong foundation of sound arguments
In the beginning Wally West was a conservative, much to the chargin of other teen titans members. You might have to look towards European comics

>Mein Kampf
>books by credible sources
>half-educated rambling RP horseshit
lol get out

Anyone who shaves every day and uses the word cuck is a joke.

>f you push too hard people will think you an extremist,
Oh that I have mastered. I approach it very carefully but it seems easier to talk to either White guys or funny enough non white men and women. I approach it carefully and appeal to something they care about to open the conversation. I have never gotten a hostile response, just one of curiosity. I know very well these subjects are touchy andhave seen the one's who fail by immediately blaming Jews left and right like a broken record. Kind of like how lefties spam bash the Fash(or whatever it is they say) or other obscenities that don't make sense.

>sob story eyewitnesses and forced confessions
All right man, listen, I do agree with you on the fact that you can't just believe everything the mainstream media throw at you and that you have to research alternate theories, I also think that Holocaust victims numbers were fabricated to be much higher than in reality. But gas chambers existed, that's a fact. I live in Poland, this is, where this was happening and I personally knew some people who have been in the camps during war. Including my family members. It's easy to say "nah, this is some fabricated bullshit" when you're somewhere there, but do you seriously believe that thousands of people remembering the same things and dozens of independently written memoires are just lying and making stuff up - because of what exactly? Yeah, some of the stories about the holocaust are made up bullshit. Some are attempts by Jews to "profit" on their suffering, others just products of sheer fantasy. But gas chambers were fucking real.

>Many leftists I know say Hitler would have been the greatest leader in history
>people are saying
>many leftists i made up
Hitler made himself the top five layers in a chain of command. He was a mediocre bum installed by nasty old men who thought they could use him, only one recognised the very new and hideous nature of Hitler and said: I solemnly predict this man will ruin Germany and people will curse your memory for generations.
Get real.

>Anyone who shaves every day
Well that doesn't apply off the bat. I have stubble that i trim every other few days.
Have you actually read it? The dude had more intellect in his fucking left nut than you will ever achieve in your life. The Enigma of Hitler pretty much talks about his education.
Where did you get that from?

This is from Leon Degrelle's Enigma of Hitler.

His thirst for knowledge was unquenchable. He spent hundreds of hours studying the works
of Tacitus and Mommsen, military strategists such as Clausewitz, and empire builders such
as Bismarck. Nothing escaped him: world history or the history of civilizations, the study of
the Bible and the Talmud, Thomistic philosophy and all the master-pieces of Homer,
Sophocles, Horace, Ovid, Titus Livius and Cicero. He knew Julian the Apostate as if he had
been his contemporary.

His knowledge also extended to mechanics. He knew how engines worked; he understood
the ballistics of various weapons; and he astonished the best medical scientists with his
knowledge of medicine and biology.

The universality of Hitler's knowledge may surprise or displease those unaware of it, but it is
nonetheless a historical fact: Hitler was one of the most cultivated men of this century.
Many times more so than Churchill, an intellectual mediocrity; or than Pierre Laval, with his
mere cursory knowledge of history; or than Roosevelt; or Eisenhower, who never got
beyond detective novels.

Savage

You're pathetic.

That's not to say bad things never happened but where are the gas chambers? Only the camps that were located on the camps the Soviets liberated are considered death camps.

I'm not sure you understand conservative to mean what most people think it means.
I picked up a page of a comic i found in the city during the 90s and there was mention in the dialogue of the threat of Cuban military in the area, backed by Russians.
It wasn't some alternate universe either, it was just a given then that Russia was backing Cuba and they were an existential threat to the USA.
The Mexican President told Kennedy during the missile crisis that he couldn't tell his countrymen Cuba was a threat, because, to use his words, it would risk 20 million people dying of laughter.
So what you would call the conservative side of politics then was really a load of bullshit fed to the public through media owned by very few multinational conglomerates.
This idea that leftism is taking over has been repeated ad nauseum by shock jocks and pundits until the ingnorati think it's true.
There are conservatives who are left-wing in their politics, the right wing politicians of the last 25 years have all been radicals.

I'm not talking like political but more like lifestyle.

So if he was so smart why'd he get shitstomped by Churchill Eisenhower and Stalin?

They say exactly the same shit about every dictator, user.

They're all much smart, so wise and very learnt.

Wow that's some turbo fanboy writing there with nothing to back it up.
Planck met Hitler, listened to him rave and rant about science and said it was the stupidest conversation of his life.
Goethe met Napoleon and was amazed at how intelligent and deep he was.
Hitler's backers and inventors: Field Marshall von Hindenburg, Fritz Thyssen (greedy and cynical tycoon), Franz von Papen (Establishment wheeler dealer). After the constitutional coup in 33 that put Hitler in power, Erich Ludendorff sent a letter to the senile old President Hindenberg. Remember this Ludendorff led German forces on the Western Front and helped originate the idea of the Dolchstoss, the stab in the back that caused Germany to lose WWI.
In the letter he wrote: You have delivered up our Holy German Fatherland to one of the greatest demagogues of all time. I solemnly prophesy that this accursed man will cast our Reich into the abyss and bring our nation to inconceivable misery. Future generations will damn you in your grave for what you have done.
This is after Hindenberg had said "We've hired him!" when Hitler came to power. Pretty prescient huh?
Even Churchill thought Hitler was the lesser of a few evils, but this brutish and conceited militarist saw right through Hitler from before then.

Capitalism and Communism fucked him from both sides. He didn't want war and wanted the British to help him take out Communism. The Lend Lease act helped Russia with the US sending them a shit ton of supplies. Stalingrad was a failure due to the harsh winter weather. Firebombing the shit out of German cities with no military value was also not a help to Germany. I suggest you read the Myth of German villainy, or The Bad War, or even Hellstorm.

Holy crap, Hitler is a real life Mary Sue.

Good one

>Leon Degrelle was a Walloon Belgian politician and Nazi collaborator, who ... later joined the Waffen SS
Oh yeah, he's an unbiased source.

I saw that Richard Spencer talking with two black men about politics and his outlook.
They looked like serious men and sounded like grown-ups.
Spencer squirms in his seat, simpers and makes campy sounding, childish voices to mock a point of view. He said the phrase 'pursuit of happiness' from the US Constitution sounded 'faggy' and screwed his face up when he said it.
>I'm not talking like political but more like lifestyle.
This sounds like him. Vague and kinda sorta you knowwwwwwww...

>Oh yeah, he's an unbiased source.
And the anti Hitler garbage fed to us for decades isn't? Read the damn writing he did instead of literally wikipediaing.

>None of it is pol
>proceeds to felate Hitler's ghost like he owes it money

>He didn't want war.
Then why invade Poland first, after making an alliance with Russia, instead of trying to garner British and French support against the Soviets?Generally? Yes, it isn't. Most of it is after the fact research done by historians, which has a much better chance of at least attempting objectivism then something written by a collaborator. I wouldn't trust anti-Hitler writings by obviously biased sources (say, Churchill or Patton) either.

>He didn't want war and wanted the British to help him take out Communism
He did want war, as a continuation of the previous war.
He also wanted to set things up so there could be no treachery to force a surrender, the meme spread to explain the loss of WWI.
So let's get rid of opposing political parties, and in fact all political parties.
Then it's a short hop to concentrating and disposing of undesirables. Political, military, ethnic, educational undesirables as well as the disabled, gays, and of course the Jews.
Attacking Stalingrad in winter is always, always going to go badly.
The guy was a headcase who sprang into prominence by force and fraud. Great speaker, terrible leader and strategist.

>He knew how engines worked; he understood the ballistics of various weapons
That isn't laudable at all given his background and era. Unless he learned how to operate firearms and machined his own one-man car in a workshop completely on his own at like age 5 or something.

You can read a lot of books and still be a fucking idiot.

Take yourself for example.

>Then why invade Poland first, after making an alliance with Russia, instead of trying to garner British and French support against the Soviets?
Poland had land given to them after the first world war. The British hated Germany and told Poland to agitate the Germans by killing Germans living in Poland to make Germany attack Poland, thus making Britain declare war by ''coming to the aid of the Poles''.

...

Not an argument.

see

Neither is quoting one guy and ignoring the much, much higher number of people he alienated by being a fucking lunatic who was leading Germany to ruin.

wew no responses to my posts

It's an observation. Observations don't have to be arguments

Even if that was true (and it's a conspiracy I'd be interested in seeing sources for [not just read so-and-so book by a Nazi sympathizer]), why would they ally with Russia to accomplish it if their overarching goal was the destruction of the Soviets? It's not like Poland was a military super-power.

Considering their fan club from day one talks about becoming a government informant, I'd say yes.

Been fun gents but I got to work tomorrow. I will just leave this here. You fucks are beyond saving


It’s a great brainwashing process which goes very slow and is divided into four basic stages. The first stage being “demoralization”. It takes from 15 to 20 years to demoralize a nation. Why that many years? Because this is the minimum number of years required to educate one generation of students in the country of your enemy exposed to the ideology of [their] enemy. In other words, Marxism-Leninism ideology is being pumped into the soft heads of at least 3 generation of American students without being challenged or counterbalanced by the basic values of Americanism; American patriotism.

The result? The result you can see — most of the people who graduated in the 60’s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government, civil service, business, mass media, and educational systems. You are stuck with them. You can’t get through to them. They are contaminated. They are programmed to think and react to certain stimuli in a certain pattern [alluding to Pavlov]. You can not change their mind even if you expose them to authentic information. Even if you prove that white is white and black is black, you still can not change the basic perception and the logic of behavior.
-Yuri Bezmenov

"kys you retard"
- user

At least you ask good questions.
I can name any book out there and you would still somehow label it a book by a Nazi sympathizer. Hitler allied with Russia as a temporary ''please stay out of our way while we gut Poland, but he knew damn well what Stalin and the Soviets had planned for Europe so he cut it off and attacked Russia later.

Translation: my terrible arguments were shut down and now I leave to tend to my hurt feelings because other people don't adore Hitler-senpai as I do

Whole Marxism-Leninism ideology was about the Great SuicidalWorld War that would destroy the opposition of communists. Well, USSR attack was inevitable, so the Reich attacked first.

>most of the people who graduated in the 60’s, dropouts or half-baked intellectuals, are now occupying the positions of power in the government
Go and argue with someone like Obama. I don't care what you think about the man or his politics, just try to play the edgy Hitler fan with someone who's educated.
You're a mess and you fucked up this thread with your mindless shit.

>Churchill
>scared
He was wary of one of the most heavily industalised nations on earth and a historical enemy.

wait so is it unamerican or pro-american to think hitler was average

What about the occupation of Czechoslovakia? Sudetenland makes sense, sure, retake what was taken. But the rest? If it was a British conspiracy, then why did they tacitly allow it. If it was revenge, that doesn't seem like a strategically sound leadership choice to me.

And all those books made you think that a genocidal maniac is better because is view on currency suits you?

>a monster for not thinking gas chambers that were never proven are not real.
Next you'll tell us earth is flat...

please Hydracap, send in the Hulk to destroy this thread

>gas chambers that were never proven are not real

imgur.com/gallery/725A7

More clearly, facist germany's big goal was a unified, facist germanic ethnostate, neither purely capitialist or communist, but "third position. Controlling other countries is a means to that end.

The big soviet gameplan was a proletariat revolution, based entirely on economic class, with absolutely zero separation by race.

The two are fundamentally incompatible in the long term. Both were very expansion minded. They had actually fought more than once in the runup to the war.

Sage because how the fuck did this thread get to her from Mockinbird?

Of course not because he had fuck all to come back with

>all that effort
lol autism
but seriously that is a lot of effort