Fox Sets Dates For Six Mystery Marvel Films

Fox Sets Dates For Six Mystery Marvel Films

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>Injecting a dose of mystery into the long holiday weekend, Fox has staked out dates for six untitled Marvel films.

>These are in addition to the already-announced 2018 lineup featuring The New Mutants (April 13), Deadpool 2 (June 1) and X-Men: Dark Phoenix (Nov. 2). The new date are June 7 and Nov. 22 in 2019; March 13, June 26 and Oct. 2 in 2020; and March 5 in 2021.

>Fox of course controls the film rights to the Fantastic Four and the enormous stable of X-Men family of characters, opening up a lot of potential candidates to fill these slots. Sequels to The New Mutants, Deadpool and X-Men are the most obvious contenders, with X-Force following close behind, as Deadpool 2 introduces Cable and Domino, laying the foundation for that team.

>We also can’t forget Gambit, which has experienced repeated delays, losing director Doug Liman and its place on the Fox calendar in the process; still, the studio and actor Channing Tatum appear committed to the project.

>That brings us to the most vexing of its Marvel properties, the Fantastic Four. Fox’s third and most recent attempt to adapt the comic, the 2015 reboot directed by Josh Trank, was a critical and commercial failure, but producers remain interested in the property. The studio can only retain the rights if a Fantastic Four film is in development within a period prescribed by the agreement with Marvel (you’ll recall the hand-wringing about Daredevil and Ghost Rider before those rights reverted to Marvel), so another run at the franchise in 2020 or 2021 is a distinct possibility.

>tfw marvel will never get the right backs

>marvel will never get the right backs
Good

>Kate Mara, my prime Susan, wasted on one F4 movie.

This. I would rather Fox keeps cranking out piles of shit than watch Doom get the MCU treatment.

>never get the right backs
>the right backs

Have they even started filming new mutants yet? I kept seeing casting stuff.

t. Fox shill

New Mutants hasn't even started shooting, it's not going to make April 13.

Deadpool is happening; I think they even finished principal photography already, given the number of little extras they've already released.

Dark Phoenix is in the same bind as New Mutants; an intended cast announcement is not the same as a thing actually happening, being funded, or even properly cast with a script.

The other dates are either to placate the Murdochs (who are naturally suspicious people with very little understanding of the finer detail of operations they've never personally worked on, such as film production), or to try and pressure Marvel into making an offer before everything gets TRANKED.

Gambit is dead. You heard it here last.

X-Men is in a different position to Fantastic Four, even though they're on the same kind of contract.

What happens is you get a rights window - and if you stop making movies within that window, then reboot, you get the whole rights window (usually a decade) to continue making movies, but it has to be a genuine do-over, all new cast, sets, the works - or you're not getting a do-over, you're just fucking around.

With Daredevil, that window closed in 2012 - 10 years after the FOX movie.

With Fantastic Four, it's actually been extended three times now - once before FOX owned it, after which Avi Arad's production company, as a favor, bought the rights back and sold them to FOX (instead of the basically fake production company that had held them before Arad stepped in), once ten years after that, with the first FOX movie, and once in 2015, with the Trank attempt. In each case, the window has been reset to a full decade because in each case, it's been a genuine reboot, and that merits the full time period (at the time of signing, it would be envisioned that getting the first movie made, then one or two sequels, would take a full decade, after which nobody would just reboot for the sake of it, which was possibly naive).

But what if you were to go over that initial period, with plans for a sequel? Sequels don't just mean money for you, they mean money for the ultimate rights owners, so they're in everybody's interest - so each movie, rather than re-set the full window, adds a couple of years to give you time to produce another sequel if there's any reason to do so.

X-Men have been coasting on these additional years since 2011; if they miss the window, from here on out, the rights will revert even if they rebooted recently.

>Dark Phoenix is in the same bind as New Mutants; an intended cast announcement is not the same as a thing actually happening, being funded, or even properly cast with a script.

They are planning to film the movie in fall, it will only take 3 weeks according to hollywood report

What other Marvel properties does Fox have outside of X-Men and F4?

Okay, so

F4 Reboot
Gambit
Deadpool 3
X-Men
New Mutants 2
X-Force

Sounds about right?

After based marvel gets that billion for spiderman and that shifty Gifted show gets cancelled Fox will GLADLY give the rights back

Only Disney and WB bother with such bullshit as shilling on social media.

>implying WB can afford to hire shills when every movie they make bombs

Except they don't lmao

Tbh I would like to see the original Fantastic Four film before Fox tried to make it into a more typical superhero film.

Wait they're rebooting F4? Again? At what point do they just give up? No one except comic nerds give a fuck about them and even that is becoming less common since they haven't been doing shit lately

>CHIPS
>King Arthur
>Unforgettable
>Fist Fight
>Lego Batman
>The House
And plenty more to come like Geostorm Justice League and Blade Runner

Just those at this point, but both come with a lot of accessory characters. All of the villains of said franchises and popular characters like Deadpool.

Obviously X-Men will never return outside of some mutually agreed upon Secret Wars esque crossover, but I'm still holding out hope for F4.

It would be the ultimate petty move to try to push out another reboot after the last turd.

Were talking about comic book movies bud

He already fucking did. Twice.

Are you ready for another F4 reboot m8?

Maybe the 4th time is the charm.

Yeah honestly even it is kid friendly doesn't mean it can't be good.

They're not going to magically have money for shills for their comic book movies after losing so much on their real movies

It's going to be made on a shoe string budget. Plus, how the fuck are you going to sell a film about the FF kids when audiences give 2 shits about FF? It's a stupid idea on every level. Plus Fox will probably make it at the last minute like the last dumbster fire.

>ywn see Doctor Strange and Doctor Doom against Mephisto
why live

I liked the Chris Evans Fantastic Four movies

Filming rarely takes longer than three weeks, outside of background and pickups (which are done, respectively, before and after principal photography).

The point is, in order to meet a 2018 date you need at minimum 12 months from the start of principal to the release date and ideally you want 18, in case of problems with whatever. The bigger the budget, the more complex the shots and the FX, the more time you need. Big movies take 2-3 years for a reason.

But they're not giving themselves that time; they haven't started shooting New Mutants (which is a strong suggestion that it's going to be pushed back or dropped entirely, assuming the november date is still on for Dark Phoenix, which is cutting it fine since they probably don't even have crew ready to go yet), and the short space before DP is supposed to be ready suggests that it, too, will be pushed back or dropped. Especially if it sounds rushed, in which case JLaw who is the only reason people would even go see it will walk, assuming it's even true she signed up for another movie.

Hell even if they still had her on her original contract she can afford to buy her way out of it at this point, it's not like it'll be much since they were paying her peanuts anyway.

It's not that you can't make a movie (such as New Mutants) in oh let's say 10 months and be generous even tho it'll be more like 6 if at all, it's that when you rush you tend not to do your best work, and you'd think - after Trank - that FOX would be more careful.

She sucked. She's a terrible actress that looks like an ape from Marky Mark's Planet of the Apes

Hey don't insult apes by comparing them her

Is Gambit the husbando of an exec or something? They keep trying to push a movie through but he doesn't seem anywhere near as high profile as other X-Men characters.

>an ape from Marky Mark's Planet of the Apes
Helena Bonobo Carter was pretty hot to be honest with you familia.