Fox wants to keep the F4 rights. Instead of another reboot, they decide to just go ahead and make an R-Rated Doom flick...

Fox wants to keep the F4 rights. Instead of another reboot, they decide to just go ahead and make an R-Rated Doom flick. They come at you and give you whatever creative freedom you want. How do you do it.

I have a theory about these kinds of threads. Uninspired writers create them to steal good ideas from unsuspecting anons

You really think Fox is smart enough to both decide to make an R-Rated Doom movie, and come to Sup Forums for ideas? Come on... As for the rest... eh. Some could drop by.

>You really think Fox is smart enough to both decide to make an R-Rated Doom movie
No
>, and come to Sup Forums for ideas?
Yes

Doom: Tyrant
Entirely make it about the trials of leadership and how he rules with an iron fist. The Soviet Super Soldiers attack and threaten his sovereignty. It's a coup, Doom must match sorcery, technology, and will against Crimson Dynamo and Darkstar.

Would a Doom movie without the FF even allow Fox to keep the rights longer?

First of all, let's talk about the R rating. Most movies cheap out on it- it's all worthless screen time and horrible swearing and just bloodshed for not reason. What I'd do is have not a single swear word in the film. Then see how the R rating fares. You want sex? Young Victor seeing lesbian gypsies bathing in a forest river. You want blood? Full-on old-style satanic human sacrifice in the mountains complete with summoning Mephisto. Or Illaynia Rasputin. You want violence? Dr Doom trying to save the lives of a roomful of gypsies who were suicide-bombed by a hydra agent, and failing. And then repeating their deaths on the hydra cell he finds, and nails to the floor. You want an evil, oppressive tyrant? Figure out a way to show Doom making laws that prevent bad things from happening, then it all being misapplied into oppression- just like in real life.

You've been noticing that, too? I thought they were getting more blatant about it.

Have blatant Carol expy be Doom's rival and "hero". After being his prisoner for a day, she falls in complete and utter lust. They have kinky dungeon sex. And keep the masks on.

>Bendis steals user's idea!
>then makes the characters black young girls
The rascal!

Don't have an idea for a plot yet, but I'd definitely have an Eastern European actor play Doom, or someone who could do an Eastern European accent. I feel like that's an overlooked aspect of Doom's character.

How would you guys feel about a 3 doom-arc:
In the first movie he barely appears, mostly to benefit from the sidelines, in the 2nd he takes the stage, trying to conquer lands for Latveria and is stopped and the third movie is a straight adaptation of Triumph and torment?

It doesn't even have to be R-rated, but just adapt Books of Doom as an origin story. It's pretty simple. Trying to tie his origin in with the FF is a mistake.

The FF's only origin story connections to von Doom are
-Reed is a guy Doom met in passing in college.
-Reed and friends mug Doom on the streets of New York.
-Reed and friends wander around Castle Doom breaking things until they stop what they wanted to stop.
Not to mention the FF's flying car. If Doom had had that he would have gotten things quicker- like getting to the monastery where he built his armour. Which means he wouldn't have spent so much time on that mission and probably would have been less impatient. Therefore if Dr Doom had had a flying car, he wouldn't have burnt his face to a piece of hammered sheet metal.

I actually think a lot about this.
Origin story, quickly established relation between the gipsies and the baron. They are persecuted so they are always on the run living outside of Latveria. Few changes to the normal story, this time the baron has a secret arts advisor that is the reason why he rose to power, he acts behind the curtains and he has a problem when he learns Victor's mother is working with occult arts as well, so he advises the Baron to send troops to kill her, which they do as Victor watches and can't help. The next day they return and hunt down Victor and his father, they run to the woods. Victor's father hugs him during the entire night to keep him warm, in the morning he is dead and Victor is trapped into his frozen arms. When he finally gets out, that's when he changes his entire personality to the cold one we know.
Stumbling and freezing he finds a guard looking for them, he sneaks up on him with a branch of a tree, hits him and they fight on the ground and the guards tries to put the rifle towards him. Victor chokes him to death on a really prolonged scene. His face is filled with anger. He takes the rifle and his jacket and proceeds to find his camp. They are being harassed by the baron troops again and he watches from far away as they complain about giving the witch woman to them, why won't they leave them alone as promised. So now he knows his people sold his family out to the baron. Full of rage he takes aim with the rifle at them for a few seconds but puts it down and leaves, he know has nothing to hold him to that place.
He's now on another part of Europe, here he quickly learns that he's very good with technology, taking things apart and making new things. Making shrapnel and smoke grenades and other fantastical gadgets he goes robbing the streets of this new country to sustain himself.

This is where the copyrights things becomes a problem, because I need the MCU but I also need Reed Richards.

Victor makes propulsors that should look very reminiscent to the firsts Iron Man techs and gets himself involved in a big chase scene with several cops, the point is he makes a commotion but manages to escape and hide.
Next day when he wakes up there's people standing around him. A younger Agent Coulson comes in and gives him a proposal. They have been hearing about his little jests and exploits and he wants him to come and study in the US in a new governamental program of experimental technology. The precursor to S.H.I.E.L.D.
Victor demonstrates ego but accepts it.
Here I would need Reed, another student in the same program where they could develop rivalry.
Through Victor's experiments he theorizes the existence of Asgard and the 9 realms for the first time in human history. Despite the professors acting with skepticism about gods living in other dimensions Reed gets interested and goes to Victor's dorm to talk about it, where he finds Victor is doing unauthorized experiments and has build a big improvised devise to be able to look into different realms. Reed promises not to tell but says something in his equations lying all over the floor look wrong. Victor takes this very seriously and tells him to fuck off.
Eventually our young Victor uses the machine to look into Asgard for a few seconds. It's a big device with a helmet that covers his eyes attached to it. Euphoric about being right he decides to look for other places, and he finds it. He sees a place filled with despair and agony. We see sweat beads coming from under the visor as Victor travels very quickly through this place in disjointed fast first person shots. Then he sees it. It's his mother. Trapped in the midst of the lakes of fire, and something is by her, something obscured by shadows but big. This thing actually feels Doom's presence, he looks to him, his non-existent body, looks right into his eyes and laughs. The machine explodes, Victor gets hurt, his mind goes numb.

>I don't understand Doom at all.

Just adapt Books of Doom.

He wakes up in the facility's hospital. His face has been hurt by the helmet, it is wrapped. Men in suits tell him he wasn't allowed to make personal experiments with tech from the institute. The explosion tore the dorm next door and almost killed two students. He is expelled.
This is Victor's fall from grace. As he leaves he passes by big glass walls where Richards is actually lecturing classes.
We have a few scenes of Victor taking the bandages off and looking his face in the mirror and being disgusted by it (which would later be revealed to be a small scar augmented by his egotistical perception). He rents a room on a shitty place, but every time he tried to sleep he sees his mother and that thing laughing, looking at him, burning his soul.
He knows he needs to leave, to find a way.
Little montage of him looking for masters of the occult arts and eventually finding the Ancient One, Tilda Swinton. His ego gets in the way and he insults her and leaves.
As he is leaving his little shithole in the town by the Kamar-Taj a bunch of man in suits stop him, they have a familiar face with them, Valeria, one of his childhood friends from his gypsie group. The baron's influence has grown since Victor left, Latveria has alliances with other balkan countries, their government agreed to look for Doom in the baron's behalf, once their intelligence learned about the little programa the americans had. They tell him to come with them to reveal everything he saw in his time in the US, all the technologies (these people are implied to be the start of the program that would later create Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch), and then they'll hand him to the baron's guard. Victor gets pissed and he has devices hidden on him, which he shoots taser like darts on strings that hit the necks of two of the men and they ignite in flames, he then runs up to other one and stabs him with a spring knife in his sleeve, but gets shot in the abdomen in the process.

We have the typical "Victor, is that you? What happened to your face? What have you become?" exchange with Valeria, he takes her away to another hideout, little romance shit, she tends to his wounds, little implied sex scene. Next morning he says he's gotten american contacts to provide her safety, they obviously can't be together, he needs to deal with this Baron shit, so he leaves the poor girl.

Victor finds a set of monks that will teach him the occult since the Ancient One won't.
Training montage. He needs to shed himself of the flawed human he once was, he makes a technological suit of armor imbued with magic. He can't stand to look in the mirror and see the flawed face of the kid that lost everything. He takes the mask as the monks say it's still too hot and he puts it on his face, this time fucking it up for good.
Anyway, let's speed things up here, he fucks around with magic, another group comes after him and he smashes them no problem, but he feels unfinished, he goes back to the Ancient One, this time humbled, he has learned a lot and although he's still egotistical he can acknowledge someone as above him, until he surpasses them that is.

We finally get to see DOOM, iron clad in green hood, arrive back at the beginning. Latveria.
The rest of the movie is just a big wankfest of DOOM absolutely destroying all of the Baron's army as he progresses right up to him, but the baron's personal mage comes and magic fight happens. DOOM wins using technology and before he kills him he makes the point that he's both a tech genius and a master magician. He finally gets to a desperate Baron, he begs for life and says if he kills him total chaos will engulf Latveria. He says yeah he's bad, but he has been keeping the whole country afloat, he's the reason it's been getting developed, he's a necessary evil and Victor should leave him live in the name of the greater good of the place of birth of his parents, his nation. DOOM actually pauses as if contemplating, he arrives at the only logical conclusion, he must guide Latveria from now on, for no one could be better suited than him. Kills baron in cold blood and doesn't even shake.
Last shot is Doom on the balcony of the big castle in the center of Latveria., he delivers a big, typical inflated DOOM speech to the people and the shot zooms out to everyone looking up to him.
The end.

Sequel, Doom and Strange go to hell.