Batman once said "Barry allen is the kind of man that I would've hoped to become if my parents hadn't been murdered." He is basically a true her, literally above reproach.
Almost everyone I talk to is upset that Wally was not the flash and that Barry came back and is "stealing the spotlight". In all honesty I thoruoughly loved flashpoint and I think that The Flash Rebirth and the 2010 series of The Flash with Barry contained some terrific stories. I think Geoff Johns did a terrific job writing him. I know most people that are big on comics right now, aka "New Comic Fags", grew up with Wally as The Flash but it's time for him to step back.
Really there is not room for two Flashes in the DC universe, it gets way too convoluted. Barry is basically the most moral hero in the DC universe. I would take him over Shazam or Superman in morality.
Because Barry used to own a puppy, till Zoom played with it in traffic
Matthew Richardson
Because he is the most whitebread character DC has. Makes Dick and Hal look exciting.
Dominic Gomez
You've made this thread before and the answer is still the same.
B8
Andrew Edwards
Who...are you? Who the FUCK are you!?
Colton Sullivan
>Batman once said "Barry allen is the kind of man that I would've hoped to become if my parents hadn't been murdered." He is basically a true her, literally above reproach. Because, Einstein, someone wrote the line "I, BATMAN, WISH I COULD'VE BEEN MORE LIKE BARRY ALLEN" specifically as a heavy-handed attempt to get soft-skulled newbies like you going "Ooooh, BATMAN likes BARRY? Well if the world's greatest superhero likes him, who am I to argue?!"
It's the most blatant manipulative shit ever. Have a Cool Guy say "Naw, this B or C-lister? He's even cooler than I am!" Like that time Ra's al Ghul wouldn't stop sucking Tim Drake's barely legal dick.
Barry Allen was the Flash before my time, I have no strong feelings about him one way or the other, but my dislike of that kind of trick makes me wanna dislike him by association, so it backfired.
Brody Carter
Flash has been a Top 10 DC book forever. Barry used to carry weaker titles you MotherFucker you. Yeah maybe Wally can't, and so sales fluctuated and DC had to step in and fix shit. But Barry can. He's a hero. It's why they went with him for the T.V. show and movies.
Christian Collins
We have a lot of Jealous Haps in this thread. Fucking Wally fans who that dude was basically their first comic so they only know him as the flash.
Look, Kyle Raynor finally got run too because he tried to replace a legend. It's ok to be upset about it.
Jason Sullivan
Wallyfags are such cancer.
Carter Johnson
This is copypasta. I've seen this thread before.
Jace Scott
I will never get used to that time period when Ra's was white. It looks so off.
Dylan Adams
It's not a copypasta, there's just one user that's so autistic that he can't stand anyone not liking his favorite character so he keeps posting the same thing.
Bentley Cox
>Barry allen is the kind of man that I would've hoped to become if my parents hadn't been murdered." Did Johns write this?
Josiah Stewart
Prove it.
Zachary Wilson
People don't hate old Barry Allen, they hate that he came back and that DC ruined his character. He should have stayed dead and a hero, now he is a loner fuck up that is hurting the comic.
Nathaniel Price
>I only started reading comics after the show, I sure do hate all of those people who read the comic before I started, they are such cancer!
David Rogers
>Jealous No, people are upset that The Flash has been shit for over 10 years now and that retarded children like you defend it.
Ethan Stewart
I thought you meant Justice League at first and was really confused
Kevin White
One man's autism is exactly what copypasta is, my friend.
Landon Rogers
>STOP COMPLAINING YOU ARE SO ENTITLED This is your average CW watcher.
Wyatt Peterson
Barry is pretty cool, I liked him in the comics as a "godlike character who gets in trouble within his day-to-day life" aspect, even moreso than Superman. And he was pretty good in Justice League, too.
But on the other hand, it'd be nice to have some legacy characters pick up the mantle for good, and Wally's one of the best ones for the job.
I don't know much about the flash, but I do like all the iterations. Why do people argue of it?
As long as they know Thawne is the best flash villain.
Asher Williams
Thawne is boring as shit, Zolomon was a thousand times the villain he is.
Samuel Young
Every fucking flash exist. Except shitpluse and shit inertia. The legacy thing only came up during waids run. If cioe never existed only barry and jay would be flash.
Fuck them faggots.
Fuck your superboy, fuck your young xmen you pedofaggot ass faggot faggot.
Zachary Williams
>Every flash exists And only one gets attention. >If it wasn't for COIE By that shitty logic if it wasn't for JSA ending Jay would be the Flash. The Flash is Legacy. DC and Barry ruined The Flash.
Robert James
>Barry pretty much invented Legacy characters >N-NO IT WAS JUST WAIDS RUN Faggot. The flash has been in stand still since Barry returned. Instead of the series going forward it just repeats the same shit over and over and over. NuBarry is a shit character NuFlash is a shit comic Nu52 was shit as well Thanks Barry. Thanks CW casuals that eat this mediocre shit up and defend it.
Easton Morales
Also The Flash Family existed long before Wally's run you double nigger.
Adam Rivera
I guess bringing him back after his heroic sacrifice kinda undermines his heroism, while also taking attention away from newer iterations of the Flash.
William Baker
3 triggered Wally fags. Fuck your Shitpulse and shitty young justuce faggots.
I read waids run, it's quite fucking rushed with shit villians galore.
Jacob Lee
>3 different reasons explaining why Flash isn't as good with Barry being the only flash >W-Wally! The modern comics are shit you DC intern.
Caleb Thomas
Not an argument.
Nathaniel Carter
>Shit villains That's funny since modern Prof Zoom comes from it and so do many of the shit Flash Rebirth ripps off. Either way that has nothing to do with the main point that you are deflecting.
>That one Barryfag with literal Autism makes another thread
Tyler Williams
>I would take him over Shazam or Superman in morality. fact
Wyatt Carter
It's a sad day when honesty, chivalry, and manners go unappreciated. I'll take Clark, Hal and Barry any day over edge like Bruce
Brody Barnes
3 fucking casual samefags into their Waifu doesn't surprise me. Even Wolfman thought Wally was boring in titans.
Zoom was already doing bigger shit until Hunter came along, Wally's only fucking notable villians is using Barry's and Barry villian clones. No body cares about speedfreak or the crappy commies he fought.
Even Jay had his own god dammned villians.
Even fucking Mike Barons run write Wally with more depth.
Fuck Waid the mentally ill baby who had shut in rages at convos.
I can't wait when they reveal Wally is really Hunter to fuck with you.
Adam Bell
Barry came before Wally?
Respect your elders, whelp.
Leo Price
Still not an argument. Also, you don't seem to understand what a samefag is, which doesn't surprise me one bit.
Jackson Taylor
>Samefag Nope >Casual Nope, we aren't the ones defending New 52 Flash >Retarded rant about Wally that is both uneducated and doesn't pertain to the conversation
Isaac Brown
I do. His name is Jay.
Austin Butler
That's ironic since modern Professor Zoom is a rip off of Hunter Zolomon You clearly just started reading comics since the CW show.
Gavin Brooks
Can you stop posting this? It doesn't matter how many people you think hate him, there will be a greater number who love him because he is now the mainstream Flash. There are probably more people who hate Batman and Superman.
James Kelly
Read the thread, he is mad people here don't like him as much any more. It's truly autism
Brayden James
>posts a picture of Wally
Gavin Clark
KeK mad Barry drone makes another thread
Isaac Edwards
Wally>Old jay>Original Barry>Bart>Original Jay>Current Barry
Jaxon Scott
Isn't he trying to bang Jess now?
Robert Bailey
>If you don't like someone as boring as Barry you must be edgy! Way to go to extremes out the gate, Barry is just a boring nothing with little to no personality. Even Clark has his patience tested and Hal gets cocky, but Barry? Just... there most of the time.
Grayson Allen
>Hal gets cocky Modern Hal is all cocky. Which is an improvement from sad sack or boring foil to Ollie
Thomas Martin
That is old Barry. New Barry isn't like that
Nathan Stewart
You make the exact same thread/post every few weeks and you call anyone else triggered. Are you the writer of the current Flash run or a DC executive? Is that why you are so mad?
Jackson Russell
Nah, Williamson actually likes Wally. DC just forbids him from appearing in the main Flash title.
Luis Rivera
Do you think Wally is edgy? Because he really isn't. He's just way more interesting.
Sebastian Reed
Wally was on the book as long as Barry and when they cancelled it he was still selling well. Wally never failed, DC just decided to move on because he made other heroes look old.
Ryan Taylor
No it didn't, what? Max, Bart and the Quicks weren't part of the Flash family before Wally's run. The only "Flash family" was Jay, Barry and Wally, but that's not a flash family, just legacy.
Henry Reyes
Nobody cared about The Rogues until Wally's run either you dipshit. That's the point. Wally wasn't just the better character, every character around him got better. Jay got better, The Rogues got better, even IRIS, Barry's primary supporting character, was a hundred times more interesting and developed as a third tier supporting character for Wally.
What Barry brings to the table is the shallowest stuff imaginable. He's got all the depth of a petri dish.
Chase Miller
this is not about Tim Drake
Chase Kelly
There's a glitch in the system somewhere. They did a full fledged investigation but can't figure it out.
Tyler Taylor
The fact that you didn't mention Dick makes me appreciate you, user (I also agree with you).
Honestly, Dick isn't as nice as some people think he is and actually second to Damian when to come to the most jerk robin list.
Grayson Collins
Why can't Barry and Wally both be the Flash at the same time?
It's the easiest solution and makes sense.
Luke Bailey
Don't be snide, clyde. Wally made the franchise movin and groovin again when he became the Flash, and ever since Barry came back he's been static, man. Wally did way more for the comics in five years than Barry's done in the almost ten years he's been back. The Flash should be about moving forward, my dude. But DC's 'tude is that Barry should be The Flash for all eternity... And that he should be running through the same stories and experiences that Wally did, because Barry doesn't have as much to call his own and they don't wanna make new ones. He's in a little hamster ball, man, and Wally was running open free because he didn't have the same editorial enforcement. You see?
Jaxon Evans
Don't forget that Jay wasn't a part of the main DCU until Wally's run started, too. I mean, it's purely incidental that he is as he was brought in by Crisis, not Mike Baron or Waid. But they started feeling like a family with Wally.
Camden Thompson
You never saw Wally being this selfish and anti-heroic
Camden Williams
Wait, Batman is in his bat cave, so why is he working on his utility belt in full costume, cowl and all? I would think that would get in his way or at least be a little cumbersome
Asher Mitchell
Why do Wallyfags/Barryfags need to fight?
Both are fucking great in their own way.
Caleb Mitchell
>Bruce ever taking off the cowl unless he needs to appear as Bruce Wayne
Jacob Fisher
The writer is a retard that doesn't know shit about batman
Landon Turner
He has stated several times before he's more comfortable wearing the cowl.
Yeah, he's psychotic.
Liam Wood
Was Wally doing bad before Infinite Crisis? I always thought that was what screwed up his run when they shipped and his family off to another dimension for some reason aged Bart up. Geez I forgot how off-putting that fastest man alive comic was. It was tough for me to get into the Acuna run too when they brought Wally back.
The Return of Barry Allen TPB was my first step into DC Comics as a little kid so Wally will always be my guy and I'll always think of barry as the kind of Uncle Ben figure he was trying to live up to. I love wholesome Silver Age Barry and they've had to change too much about him to make him work now, in my opinion.
Carter Gomez
Once a week isn't too bad for a girl with long hair.
Michael Wright
>DC just decided to move on because he made other heroes look old Say it like it is. Geoff Johns wanted his Flash back because he has a bad case of the Alex Ross.
Logan Turner
Geoff likes Wally a lot. He's the last one to do anything with him with DC Universe Rebirth.
I think he also wanted Barry back and thought it could work, but I'm pretty sure bringing Barry back is a mandate from higher than Johns.
Camden Morales
Because Wally's The Flash in name only. You could call him Kid Flash and his position would still be the same -- some bit idiot in a shitty team book.
The reason that's the case is because Barry came back. Everything bad for Wally can be tracked to Barry's return.
Joseph Turner
Barry's pretty mediocre in his own way. The problem is they so heavily favor Barry that they intentionally and actively sabotage and suppress Wally so that Barry can have more spotlight.
This is the company that created black Wally. They couldn't give a shit about Wally -- the only thing they care about Wally is that he's Barry's sidekick, which is why NuWally is more prominent. That's the version of Wally they prefer. A token black sidekick who no one would like more than Barry.
Anthony Robinson
Barry was a legacy hero the moment he was born at least.
Luis Rodriguez
It's amazing how much DC fucking hates Wally. Every writer is forbidden to use Wally because he might outshine Barry by actually being interesting.
Gabriel Stewart
DC execs only want one flash to promote
John Hill
If Wally was removed from the Titans what is stopping him from being another Flash?
People criticize Marvel for having multiple heroes share the same name but I think that they have the right idea. The heroes share the same name but face different threats in their own stories and sometimes crossover.
Wally should have his own book and still show up in Titans.
I don't think Black Wally is more prominent. He was always a side character. The only difference is that he's been getting character development recently.
People hated him when he was first introduced and said that he needed development. Now that Wally 2 is getting some development people are acting like he's preventing original Wally from getting a push.
Honestly, I feel like if writers came up with a new direction for OG Wally some fans would still complain.
Isaiah Sullivan
well thats just silly
Ian Gray
>I only started reading comics after the show, I sure do hate all of those people who read the comic before I started, they are such cancer! So... Wallyfag it is.
Ryan Walker
>Barry was pretty good in Justice League, too.
Justin Phillips
Just read through Rebirth to see the huge boner Barry gives Geoff. He's very much to blame.
Jace Price
It was never a problem with Wally and Jay but I guess we can't have two red Flashes running around
Christian Carter
Just more of a Wally West guy. Always have been.
Thomas Morris
I honestly can't tell the difference Barry and Wally.
Anthony Powell
Yes you can, you have 6 GLC on fucking earth
Kayden Watson
Wally's the good one.
Zachary Butler
But they got to read the flash when it was good.
Robert Scott
If you read a Flash story and it was good then you know it was Wally
Daniel Cox
Thats just flat out not true Alan is god knows where John is in charge of the Green Lanterns and is in space Guy is his loose space cop lieutenant in SPACE Hal is doing ring shit in space Kyle is also in space Baz and Jess are on earth and share a lantern
Andrew Jones
Reminder that two of those are OCs from the same guy that got rid of wally and Jay.
Gavin Lewis
Barry is shit and his fans are worse
Adrian Wilson
>that got rid of wally and Jay. Wew lad
James Smith
Both Barry and Wally suffer without the other. Barry needs Wally to add the element of teacher and confidant, while Wally needs Barry to be his motivator and legacy. They both benefit from the other.
Levi Lewis
This is simply not true. Wally did fine without Barry for decades.
Barry did fine without Kid Flash around too before dying.
Oliver Allen
Someone cleaning his own mess doesn't make him innocent, if you tell a boy to shit on the carpet and he does it he still did it.
Eli White
Not if I go back in time to stop it from happening!
