PsychicPebbles
Yawn
I waited for almost 4 years for his comeback
I am now utterly disappointed
Yeesh.
At least his animation is better?
youtube.com
This video was pretty great.
>took him 2 months for 1 podcast episode
been getting real sick of his shit for years now but every time he uploads something I always enjoy it
He's making a show.
His animation and character design has improved a lot
Is this the biggest improvement in ability of all the old Newgrounds animators besides HarryPartridge?
Zach isn't doing much lately because of his Adult Swim show. He's been posting animatics of the pilot on Twitter and confirmed that it wasn't a webseries.
Zach said he was working on several projects with Justin Roiland.
Ourmine leaked a pilot for a different show and it has an early version of Margie in it.
The family jewels
>been getting real sick of his shit for years
The fuck does he owe you?
Does anyone have the leaked second episode of HellBenders?
>has a patreon where he takes money
fucking something
>cutoff
Vine humor.
He just uploaded a cartoon.
I bet you're not even a patreon.
Listening to him go on and on about how hard he works and how his next vid is out "This friday I swear!"... only to take a further couple of months... and then that vid is a podcast, or 10 sec animation. It gets old.
Lets not forget how his teased a 5 min update vid for a whole year. Teased.
I don't mind infrequent uploads given he's working on a TV show with Justin Roiland.
see: At least he didn't lose all ambition and start doing Let's Plays.
>get constant daily content from Chris and an awesome weekly show
>get nothing but empty promises from Zach and a show that will probably be canceled after one season
I rather liked the leaked Hellbenders episode.
I'd watch it as a series.
>"playing video games looks better than a TV show on your resume"
>thinking Chris won't become Arin 2.0 within a few short years
...
I enjoyed the leaked HellBenders episode a lot more than people gave it credit for. It wasn't going to be as wacky because it was 15 minutes long and not 5. I also enjoy his random skits because I'm not a patreon and don't really care how long he takes to upload content (I'm still working my way through sleepycast)
HOWEVER... I feel like he IS lazy and lies about a lot of the work that he is currently doing to make it appear like he is busy and so that he can demand money from Patreon to continue his cosy lifestyle of doing the bare minimum.
I mean he asks for $3000 a month and from what I can see he gets it every single time. As much as you want to defend Zach, can you seriously say that he deserves getting $3k a month for doing what appears to be NOTHING?
>Michael Cusack and Zack working on a full fledged tv show
Oh shit
This
keep in mind he also took money for sleepycast and later abandoned it, but promised five more episodes. it has been a full year and there was only one episode released (which he wasn't in), yet he still willing took that money. I also feel it's worth mentioning everyone from sleepycabin (except Cory and Jeff) live in the same goddamed city.
Is this the show Roiland is involved with? If so that's a solid lineup.
I didn't know that he abandoned sleepycast. It's frustrating because I find him funny and I liked his videos but now he's milking his past success and it taints everything he comes out with these days.
This Hellbenders episode was quite good. Are there supposed to be 2?
Aside from the Let's Plays, Chris actually runs a show with RubberRoss called Doodle Doods and is currently making music for a video game from Tom Fulp called Nightmare Cops.
I'd say he's doing pretty good too
>everyone is ugly except the female
that's how real life works buddy.
Hi Chris
Zack still works much harder than him and is actually attempting to make something that won't be irrelevant after five years/outside of the little game grumps circle.
>that one guy who always came into these threads to say that exact phrase but replace it with Sleepycabin members and samefags
Are you that loser?
I think he helped Zach get the show.
He did a fake interview as Trump with Justin. Zach previewed it in episode 0 of Schmucks.
It might be his next improvable video.
starts at 40:51
The red guy isn't ugly, and will probably shack up with the gril
Chris has a lot more people defending him on the internet because he makes daily content and is pretty much always present
Are there any good cartoons with unattractive female characters?
>inb4 Steven Jewniverse
samurai jack
>attempting to make something that won't be irrelevant after five years/outside of the little game grumps circle
Outside of Rick and Morty what AS show has been fondly remembered by normies or anyone in the fanbase circle?
I don't disagree but that's kind of delusional to think what Zack is working on will last longer in relevancy compared to what Chris does. True he does Let's Plays but what about all that other stuff user said? Somehow that doesn't count? and as pointed out, Chris does have a bigger fanbase and he's much more sociable with them than Zack is so that works in his favor more.
Either way, they're both two sides of the same coin, they're just not in the same spots.
Where did you get this image
Google has no result for "little helpers adult swim"
Chris's fanbase hates game grumps
Only nu-grumps
Hopefully, working in the professional circuit will teach Zach about keeping on-time and remaining professional.
If he can pull it off, then more power to him. I rail on Zach a lot, I'm don't like him much anymore, but I'll respect his dedication towards pushing forwards as an entertainer.
If he can't do that, it doesn't matter what Roiland pushes, he won't get work and the show's gonna crash, which is very dangerous for someone who got shot down before by his own hand. Word spreads fast in entertainment, and for someone with a history like Zach, it'll be tough getting into TV a third time.
At the end of the day, TV writing credits amount to more than Let's Plays. While Chris isn't exactly screwed for the long haul it's clear Zack has the advantage of career direction at this point.
What's wrong with nu-grumps?
Thing is, Chris isn't trying to get on TV. He's sticking to his online content and delivers what he promises. It's not a whole lot, but he doesn't blow his promises out of proportion, so I'm never disappointed.
I think Zach really needs a manager, someone who knows how to schedule things out for him and get him moving. I know from personal experience how hard it is to put out content without motivation or a deadline. Without deadlines, Zach's got no reason to get to work and he won't deliver on time.
True, although as time goes on classic grumps dwindles in comparison with jewgrumps.
To be quite frank I watched his older videos again recently and they don't hold up. So this one being meh doesn't phase me.
Though I should add I still enjoy gmod animations so maybe sense of humor is just bleh.
>Jon Grumps
Two friends, who are funny people, try to play a video game.
>Dan Grumps
Two friends, who are playing a video game, try to be funny.
Isn't donating via patreon optional?
>Ditched Oney for this trash
>mfw this shit tanks and Zach finally gets shown as the hack he is
Wait MICHAEL CUSAK?
As in the Darren and Damo guy?
Fuck, good for him. Wish he could have at least done a collab with Greasymoose or the Big Lez guy, but good on him.
T H I S
Pretty accurate although dan and arin still haven't quite figured out how to play a videogame
What do you mean, Arin is great at video games, also Mario 64 and Zelda OoT are objectively bad games!
>yeah yeah yeah I hate all this tutorial bullshit
>WHAT!? How was I supposed to now I had to do that?
Danny can't even hide how sick of GG he is anymore.
>Oney hangs out with Egoraptor and Suzy and plays video games all day
>Pebbles hangs out with Justin Roiland and Alex Hirsch and pursues animation
How long until Oneyplays deteriorates to Dan era quality or worse
>Ding Dong leaves
>gets replaced with Matt
he didn't make it it was edited together by some else
I bet this is not even a post.
how can he be a patreon? there's already a patreon, it's where all the hacks e-beg
>assuming his show even gets one season
I don't know how to feel about this. At least Mike is somewhat talented.
Angry Beavers
>no longer friends with oney
most tragic e-breakup?
The second DingDong and Julian leave it'll turn into a dumpster fire. The sad truth is Zack and Cory were the best parts of his old lets plays before DingDong and Julian were regular members.
Chris is only good with a supporting cast.
This. I wish Zach the best but finding a workable delivery method is more than half the battle. I think Zach will do well in the end but he's definitely limited by a stubborn idea of what he wants to do, which he simply hasn't succeeded at yet.
what the fuck even happened
I refuse to believe this
>>everyone is ugly except the female
Jesus Christ you must have low standards
That picture reminds me of the recent past.
that's kinda the problem with Patreon
your fans don't like to think themselves as your boss & will often give you money even if you don't deliver
it's why Spoony got so bad, no one ever told him to get off his arse and make content til it was too late
They've simply outgrown each other.
Of course it is. But he promises frequent updates and videos that he never delivers on so people keep paying him in hopes that it will fund future content. By this point it's pretty clear that he is just loving his easy life and is probably spending his 3 grand on things other than work.
I don't understand why he even needs that amount. He is getting paid to sit in his office/house and create YouTube videos or side-projects. Why does he need so much money to do that? I'm sure he's got a convenient excuse as to why
I've been out of the loop, did Oney and Zach have a falling out? I thought they were best friends
Zach is interested in other people nowadays and poor Chris is old news.
they haven't communicated openly in over a year. there is nothing to really indicate they had a falling out, but there isn't anything to indicate they are still friends. I think they just grew apart.
We have this discussion every time it ever gets mentioned, all that happened is that they aren't following each other on Twitter, that's the only thing we know because neither of them or anyone around them has said anything. Now we can stop talking about it until the next thread.
That's sad but it happens
Zack is now better friends with H3H3 than Chris just because Chris doesn't think they're funny and Ethan is a manipulative kike that can sway anyone to his side effortlessly
I remember a while back Chris was passive-aggressively tweeting about them.
H3H3 is shit tier but it was still an emotional bitch move.
iirc all Chris did was say that what they did wasn't funny and it was no different than what a lot of click bait channels do which is true
I'd say h3h3 is still the bigger bitch just because they always try and start shit with people
Zach is good at networking, but the problem is that he surrounds himself with a lot of people like him. Nobody balances him out or keeps him in check, they're always like-minded and enabling of his attitude towards the industry.
Not only that, and this is more a personal opinion, but Zach loves to pick fights. He attracts a lot of people that garner controversy like Shad, Ethan, Jon, etc. Say what you will about their pros or cons, there's always something going on with these guys (and Destiny is a punk, don't get me wrong) and Zach always fires off on Twitter about them.
It's really no wonder why Chris drifted away from him. He hates conflict, and Zach hangs out with people who draw a lot of conflict.
>Zach said he was working on several projects with Justin Roiland
>Harmon is left alone with Rick and Morty
>It winds up even more preachy and self-aggrandizing
the ending was pretty great
I think Zach might have gotten jealous over the fact that Chris has his own channel with other friends that is getting pretty successful and he has a weekly show on GameGrumps that is the best part of that channel these days.
If it were a few years back I think Chris would have got Zach a spot on DoodleDoods and I could see that being a really funny dynamic. Plus I would love to see Zach's drawings
>I think
Ok.
None of the other replies knows the answer either. I'm just giving my opinion. Sheesh
It's weird, he basically gets patreon money to privately pursue his own career in television? Feels like double dipping. It's a great deal either way.
>they're always like-minded and enabling of his attitude towards the industry.
that's true, they constantly suck each other's projects as well and it seems like they never really try to be constructive or say how it wasn't the best.
Recently that Too Loud cartoon premiered on DreamworksTV and a lot of animators/artists Zack and Sleepycabin know were promoting it and saying how it was a blast to work on and saying how great it is. But then you look at the final project and it's barely above a good Newgrounds cartoon, like something a bunch of amateurs made rather than professional workers.
It just seems like they want to make this stuff all day without any sort of opposition. I can understand animation is a hard as hell job to do and it does take skill, but I feel like even with a job like that you should be open to people, including friends and associates, disliking or criticizing your work
>It's a great deal either way.
For him. Disappointed at a lack of consistency. Artists aren't business people I guess but it's good (also for him) that his patrons aren't either.
lol stfu
They got into some falling a long time ago over Zach being over political and constantly talk about the state of progressive politics in the US, and then he got friends with Ethan.
Neil has tweeted bad stuff about both Ethan and "cunts that won't shut the fuck up about politics" after that. They unfollowed each other and remained ignoring one's presence.
They did like each other's tweets a while back when Destiny was acting all pissy about animators complaining about Youtube and they were mocking him.
>Zach might have gotten jealous
Wasn't Chris bigger than Zach for a long time?
It seems more likely Chris got jealous of Zach working with people like H3H3 and Roiland.
He is lucky to have a fanbase so dedicated to him that they are willing to pay all that money to support him when all he does is lie to them and has nothing to show for it
I love how all the people keep talking about "Zach's series with Justin Roiland" even though nothing's cemented yet nor is there anything really to prove that they're beyond the idea phase
reminds me of the time where everyone was crazy about that "brand new egoraptor project" that never went anywhere
it's cute that Zach wants to try & get this stuff off the ground, but it looks like he's just not going to get into the industry. this is how many times that he's pitched a show to tv?
if he actually wants to make this show, then he should make it for the internet. he makes more than enough to get other people working for him so he could put out content online, but just going for TV shit is probably never going to work out for him
Chris has always been bigger than zach
>this is how many times that he's pitched a show to tv?
Two. One more than one.