Do the New 52 character designs bug anybody else?
I wouldn't mind them as much if they were a shorter term, Marvel NOW! kind of thing where they're worn in the present for a while, but inserting them into the continuity as these character's original costumes annoys me. They just look bad, and feel more like they were designed for movies. It's like if Marvel retconned it so that Captain America was always wearing the Winter Soldier uniform in the comics.
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Well, yeah, they are absolute dogcrap, just like everything Jim Lee designs.
Batman stopped wearing that costume when his back broke, all costumes when he returned was modified.
Been decades.
There's something about royalties.
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its not the 40s anymore grandpa. panties worn on the outside of pants is retarded
When he came back the blue was darker.
This zero hour issue has both dark blue and light blue neals adam look.
kys DCasual. I bet you started reading comics after 2011.
Very same issue with light blue past batman.
Many batmen in this book.
I hate Batman's modern looks the most.
Too dull. The yellow belt and yellow emblem was the perfect balance of light and dark now its all just a gray smudge.
Even if the suit is still black on gray or even all black it needs those yellow sections.
Not issue but time period whatever. I post the images.
Here.
The only trunks costume that exist so far is years one and msybe carmines in rebirth.
Most characters are getting their old costumes back in flashbacks
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Only teen characters with trunks is gone forever. Robins trunks don't exist nor does aqualad in flashbacks.
>years one and carmine's in rebirth
sauce?
The burger joint issue and dc preview for rebirth. The glass tube had year one trunks.
You can fit them in history wise.
His current logo has yellow you movie watcher casual.
Most are fine with no trunks for batman. Superman fans still rage.
Marvel never had really them much or even removed surfers, daredevils, caps from history.
I hated the New 52 designs of Static, Raven ,Starfire, PowerGirl , Hawkgirl, Supergirl, and Superboy. They looked ugly compare to their pre New 52 designs. Their designs were perfect before the New 52 . Lucky Starfire and Powergirl got better outfits later in the New 52 .
I really do miss those trunks
>pre New 52 Superboy
>"""perfect"""
t. Johns
Tiny minorotity.
He stopped wearing them when he came back to life.
The 00's did bring them back. But they was gone mid to late 90s.
>but inserting them into the continuity as these character's original costumes annoys me.
THIS. Jesus, at least let them have started out with their original costumes.
Will we ever see them again?
In 2002 they came back.
Are you the same dude who was posting Iron Man costumes in the 90's thread? Do you have a website that compiles these or something? Where do you get your info?
>DC preview
The hourglass with the rest of the JLA?
From 1995 to 2002 no trunks. Troika costume was used and modified versions.
A neat idea would be trunks but all black.
Yeah. But memories, history, pics.
I've read so many books. I probably should had been editor. But at Marvel, they would need one because they're very faulty and loose canon these days.
Superman's got his old costume back, and we see merchandise with the trunks more often than we do the New 52 or Rebirth outfit, in-universe. Hal Jordan got his old look back, too.
I'm hoping DC does the same to the rest, makes little sense to keep the paneled suits as their first costume.
Agreed. Canon is one of the most important things; without it stories don't matter. Shooter had it right. You should start a blog though, I love following costume changes. You should like this website: carolastrickland.com
If I did, it would be mostly Dc and pre Quesada marvel.
Dc may reboot but they at least try to be constistant. Recent Marvel had two Killer Shark designs at the same time in different books at the same month and pretends away old comics at times.
Marvels new approach is basically Disney style except only imo Spiderman gets tight history if we don't count the omd shit.
Thors Axe contradicts some old story about celestials. It's canon breaking or overriding.
are you shitting me, are they seriously including flashback scenes to old comics with the shitty new designs? what the fuck is that about? they've never done that before. It's always been fun 'continuity porn' to show the old costumes. even Robin's Reckoning gave us glimpses of an old costume
Eh dc rebirth and nu 52 used Jim lees costume for books that happended 1983 to 2009.
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wait which issue is that?
the cover posted above?
What happened was that Morrison's Batman run hinged on "every comic is canon" as a central idea, while the New 52 is "every comic before this isn't canon", so they had to go with the shitty new costumes. In the Absolute collection, they went back to what was planned for Batman Inc.
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Countdown to Zero Hour i htink
I really like the purple one the cape
Not that user, but aren't you just admitting that your being blinded by nostalgia than looking at it objectively.
$1.50 for bananas. $2.75 for pears, but we'll never know how much they charge for their pocket vaginas.
omg dude
Here. There was a axed superman version too.
The New 52 designs are gonna be much more dated, if they aren't already. They failed to make an impact on the public's consciousness, as the Superman on the left is still preferred to the one on the right, which is why they went back to him. It's like New Coke.
"Segmented armor and Tron lines" are gonna be the pouches of this decade.
And here poster only.
The aboted end of Zero hour was to bring back earth and 2. With post crisis dc.
Earth 1 and 2 with post crisis I meant.
3 earth multiverse.
Infinte crisis was to bring back earth 2 with the other 4 still merged as one.
Morrisons the one who suggested bringing the multiverse back.
Pff that sad little outline doesn't cut it. And the belt is ugly and over designed
thanks. actually its been in my wish list forever but didnt get it for some reason.
>Do the New 52 character designs bug anybody else?
not really
90% of the were basically the normal costume but with 1-2 things different about them. i don't hate the so much as i think they're lazy redesigns and not really worth getting butthurt over.
>its not the 40s anymore grandpa.
Calling someone grandpa is also an old meme, old man
He might be but the same could be said for people who think some of the New 52 designs were an improvement of any kind. I think maybe only a handful were in retrospect.
Wrong, they actually came back in 2000, after No Man's Land concluded.
The New 52 designs will be remembered as milestones in the history of these characters. Just like everything else. Some people liked it, some didn't. To say they're dated is to say the sky is blue. Guess what. Your favorite design is also dated. Calling anything "timeless" is a meme.
Most of the New 52 designs were awful for their own reasons but the obsession with the trunks is ridiculous.
>Manhattan has Superman's trunks
Canon and people's insistence on it is one of the cancers killing the comic industry.
Beyond the obvious point that characters should act consistently through different iterations, why would you care if a story aligns perfectly with some other story? It doesn't take anything away from the other story, but it constrains the one being written.
If DC and Marvel treated every new run as a semi-elseworld and just broad-stroked everything around it, the industry would be in a much better place, artistically.
Holy shit the one on the right looks so much fucking better.
I'll never understand why some people are so fucking opposed to Batman and Superman wearing the trunks.
>having bat themed everything is fine
>wearing a giant grey onesie
>wearing a cape is fine
>wearing a cowl is fine
>wearing trunks is going too far
I'll never fucking understand this argument. The man dresses like a literal fucking bat, but TRUNKS are what you think makes the outfit old fashioned?
No, I'm not an autistic faggot.
I gave up debating with people like you because, well, my side won.
Hated the trunks long before they started to fade from the comics. They're a relic of the past now and they're never coming back outside of nostalgic flashbacks and variant DLC costumes in videogames. You don't see much debate on the matter because there is no reason *to* debate.
I do enjoy reading these threads and watching you autists impotent screeching, I must admit
>Canon and people's insistence on it is one of the cancers killing the comic industry
Going by Marvel and DC's output in the last 17 years? It's looking like the opposite of what you said is true.
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I mean... if that's a "literal bat" to you then maybe you're just fucking retarded.
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot that bat ears and bat wing capes actually not inspired by real bats.
It';s just a regular cape, dumbdumb. Have you never seen a bat and his wings before? The ear are hardly even "bat like" if nobody mentions that it's Batman you could just say they're devil horns or something.
DC has been obsessed with micromanaging their continuity since fucking forever.
Marvel less so, but Marvel's problems are more numerous.
But I wasn't talking about just DC and Marvel and how fast and loose they're playing, but the whole idea of canon among both the companies and fans, the idea that there is a chain of fictional stories that are right and others that are wrong. That shit shouldn't matter unless you're the Pope trying to root out heretics or something. There's nothing taken away from a story if someone calls it right or wrong or if a subsequent story extols or contradicts it.
You're so right. What ever was I thinking.
Trunks are for babies anyway, but devil horns are for le mature adults.
>Beyond the obvious point that characters should act consistently through different iterations
That's part of the problem though. When you start ignoring past history it's hard to know when you just want creative freedom and what's born just out of ignorance or not caring about the characters. It's especially bad when something like that hits what's supposed to be celebrating the past, like anniversary stories.
I think the black cape works for the tone of modern batman comics and i actually really like the ww2 based cap costume that gives him the soldier out of time look
Yeah, studying character history is obviously very important, and ensuring consistency should be the editorial's primary purpose. What's not important is the minutiae like where exactly does Thor's axe come from, or how many suits Batman had, or exactly how many exatons Superman can lift. Which is exactly the sort of stuff comic book nerds get hung up on.
Some of the New 52 designs were good, some were bad. I personally didn't mind Batman's New 52 armor, for example, but a lot of people did. Nor did I mind Superman's New 52 armor, but a lot of people cried death upon the house of DC for removing the trunks.
Green Arrow, imho, had the best New 52 redesign and that's saying something since he had lost his goatee.
The Rebirth costumes and the DCYou costumes were really good, as well.